Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumNewly discovered image by the Chicago Reader of Bernie Sanders chained to protesters
thereismore
(13,326 posts)I wonder about the "preferential" treatment. Did they arrest the black protesters as well or did they just get him because he was also vocal about what he was doing?
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....that Bernie has not done enough to attract voters of color.
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)things for the leaders.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)He's got his record and his integrity so that's just going to have to be enough.
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)It comes down to a question of campaign strategy. He has made many, many mistakes. In the area of voters of color, it comes down to excessive reliance on rallies and social media rather than retail politics. For example, Congressman Clyburn shared that Bernie never asked for his endorsement. Would he have received it if he'd asked? No BUT Mr. Clyburn likely would have held off his endorsement until AFTER the South Carolina primary.
On the bright side, few things focus a candidate's attention more than losing. He already has ramped up his game. Calling for Michigan Governor Snyder to resign, which Mrs. Clinton has not done, was a good start which garnered him some key nominations in the Motor City and vicinity. His statement that Detroit used to be our nation's richest city helped as well.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)That's the game Sanders does not play that the Clinton play so well.
Sanders is not a power broker with a huge network of patronage givers at his beck and call. Sanders' only power comes from the people agreeing with his ideas.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Hillary Clinton gets nods from the most powerful people in the world. This year's electorate shrugs. She gets no bump.
The only thing that might help her is to get a nod from Elizabeth Warren. Otherwise the battle lines are drawn and Bernie should be at rallies.
tblue37
(65,334 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)ConsiderThis_2016
(274 posts)The one that hauled him off to the patty wagon had a smoke in his mouth as well. A sign of the times I'd say.
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)you Bernie and all the others who were there.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)God, he is authentic - we need him in the White House
Donkees
(31,382 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)something.
Donkees
(31,382 posts)bernbabe
(370 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I wonder what those DU members of the AA group think about Bernie now.
It probably won't change any minds.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)SciDude
(79 posts)support reparations (he's just too white) and yet they enthusiastically back the (very white southern) woman that is on video referring to them as "super-predators" and promising to grind them under heel.
If that's not cognitive dissonance I don't know what is?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...policies that put a great number of their fathers, brothers, sons in prison, and that deprived them of their vote, their ability to work, and more.
AND. The Clintons lined their pockets with cash from the prison industrial complex.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)The "civil rights icons" didn't know him. This is just "pandering." Where has he been lately? Blah, blah, blah.
Great photo, btw.
Nay
(12,051 posts)him, wonder what he's ever done for AAs, I hope this pic pops up. And just a note from this old lady -- back in 1963, very, very few white people involved themselves in ANY kind of civil rights protest like this. The exceptions were often Jewish people like Bernie. They were all considered to be commies, agitators, traitors to their race, n***r lovers, etc. They had the shit beaten out of them, generally. A protest didn't consist of a bit of sign-waving and then home to lunch.
Isn't any of this covered in high school history any more? Even AAs on DU don't seem to understand what happened back then or what it was like back then, not in any depth, anyway.
Spacedog1973
(221 posts)In regard to civil rights? Are you really suggesting that? Really? The history regarding civil rights isn't 'back then', it's a constant; it has never stopped.
Many people continued fighting civil rights to this day, constantly and are known to black communities, they don't need photos shown to remind people that they were once there.
Also, getting arrested or even beaten by police during the civil rights movement cannot be impressive for African Americans since it happened to everyone they knew.
I imagine in the future, someone will post picture of a politician that went down to Ferguson and participated in the protests for a number of weeks or months, before returning back to their state. Meanwhile the residents of ferguson remained there year after year fighting the good fight. Then 50 years later, a politician asking for their votes and his followers harrass them for daring to 'forget their history' that involved this guy protesting for them back in the day.
You can imagine how that would go down, and is currently going down. But do continue.
If anything comes out of this election, I hope that a few people start to grasp how tone and attitude goes a hell of a long way in getting people to even listening to what is said.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)knowing history do you know about the white people who were involved on your side? Other than the one who were killed when they went down to register people to vote and someone made a movie of them?
Many of us were involved and what we see as a problem is when so many people deny that we were even there.
My own involvement was with black groups on campus and Native Americans at Wounded Knee and other towns on the reservation.
Is it that hard to acknowledge that some of us tried to help?
Nay
(12,051 posts)composing.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)youths do not seem believe that we could possible care. So when I ask I try to be respectful. I still care and I want them to know that I do.
Screaming and yelling will not translate into caring.
Nay
(12,051 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)"Also, getting arrested or even beaten by police during the civil rights movement cannot be impressive for African Americans since it happened to everyone they knew."
So, any of we fellow humans that volunteered to be baton practice - when it was obvious we didn't have to - are/were just incidental?
I can tell you that at that time (early 60s) I would NOT have volunteered to stand with a chained group of POC. Judge me as you might, I just wasn't into offering myself as a target.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Really?
And every black person endorsed Jesse Jackson for President in the 1970s?
So white guy getting arrested for protesting civil rights abuses in the 1960s and endorsing Jesse Jackson for President in the 1970 is less impressive than a Goldwater girl who turned War on Poverty welfare into corporate welfare and actively campaigned to bring superpredators to heel with the world's highest incarceration rate?
bernbabe
(370 posts)Do you know how few white people did this at that time?
There are records of Bernie fighting for civil rights for all sorts of people for his entire life, and you just blow it off.
Donkees
(31,382 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)Elton John was playing for Hillary, and that's just terrible.
She only came out in support of gay marriage in 2013. And she hadn't said a word in support of gay rights all those years. While Bernie ran on pro-gay rights platform since as early as 1972.
Nobody could believe it's about records anymore. It's about connections, money, status, and all the same parties that they have been going to for years.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/27/1397068/-BERNIE-Boringly-Pro-LGBT-and-Pro-Civil-Rights-for-the-last-40-to-50-years
SciDude
(79 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)I mean who wears white pants to a (school desegregation) protest at a construction site???
(just in case: )
Divernan
(15,480 posts)I had one friend whose high school nick name was "Khaki Jack".
http://www.ballyhoovintage.com/product/24618.html
freepotter
(348 posts)Oh, wait....I can't find any instance, except for a recent campaign stunt, where Hillary has ever joined in a direct action protest for equal rights. The only references I find in many pages of Google searche results are of groups protesting her actions.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)I'm sure.
(Only 62 posts from you in 15 years...and I am one of them? I feel honored. )
xloadiex
(628 posts)of Bernie getting arrested in Chicago, I'm relieved to see my dad wasn't one of the arresting officers.
I wonder what happened to Bernie after the pic. The neighborhood I grew up in was pretty bad. If you were black, you would never have been able to set a foot in our area in the 60's without getting beaten badly. The area was well known for this.
That pic looks like it's from the 1st ward, one of the most corrupt wards in the city (among many) back then.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)to the legs of Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)... I do see white Stevie Wonder.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, LiberalArkie.
TBF
(32,047 posts)I think if I were AA and living in SC I would've wanted to know this before the primaries. We just need to keep working hard and make sure this info gets out on Facebook, Twitter, wherever we can show folks. The thing is the people on DU are very interested in politics and talking about issues on a daily basis (or close to it). But I'd have to guess we are not that large a part of the population. What might seem redundant to us is something that many people have not seen or heard (especially if they are only watching CNN).
Spread it far & wide!!
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)But even if this does see the light of day with the MSM, Hillary and her stooges will figure out a way to turn it against him. It is their way, and they know the path well.