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Newly discovered image by the Chicago Reader of Bernie Sanders chained to protesters (Original Post) LiberalArkie Mar 2016 OP
Show me a white guy who would chain himself to people sitting in dirt. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #1
The police had a tendency back then to go hard on the "n$^%# lovers" back then. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #3
I also heard they called Bernie "an external agitator" I gues that's what it means! nt thereismore Mar 2016 #7
and a group of white liberal clergy tried to tell me after seeing this... grasswire Mar 2016 #2
That means he hasn't flown any of them around in his personal jet and done other LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #4
you nailed it! nt Plucketeer Mar 2016 #35
It will always be "not good enough Bernie" no matter what. pa28 Mar 2016 #6
Sorry But They're Right corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #43
Retail politics = pay to play machine "you scratch my back if I fork over some scratch" crap mhatrw Mar 2016 #47
Bernie's entire appeal is that he is not one of the "players" in the "great game." Hydra Mar 2016 #52
He has always walked the walk. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #5
I seem to remember that the cop with the fag in his mouth was also in the video (with the fag). nt thereismore Mar 2016 #8
I believe it was a different cop... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #44
Link to full story Freethinker65 Mar 2016 #9
This makes it not only true but very real to the times. Thank jwirr Mar 2016 #27
And he is so humble - he never really boasts about his civil rights work Merryland Mar 2016 #10
Send it to Lewis Donkees Mar 2016 #11
we're not allowed to do that. Something about icon or roguevalley Mar 2016 #12
Many thanks for posting it here Donkees Mar 2016 #13
He didn't see him. bernbabe Mar 2016 #49
This is truly important. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #14
Whole lotta cognitive dissonance going on in that group. Divernan Mar 2016 #17
Bernie is not acceptable to the AA establishement apparently because he doesn't whole-heartedly SciDude Mar 2016 #41
Don't forget that AA families have been decimated by Clinton policies... grasswire Mar 2016 #54
Doesn't matter Depaysement Mar 2016 #15
You're right. It's very sad. Every time I read on DU that AAs don't know Nay Mar 2016 #18
AAs didn't know their history Spacedog1973 Mar 2016 #25
I have a serious question to ask you. When you talk about jwirr Mar 2016 #31
Thank you for saying this. It is much more polite than a post I was Nay Mar 2016 #33
It needs to be asked politely because we are older and these jwirr Mar 2016 #36
Agreed -- that's why I deleted the post I was writing and deferred to you! Nay Mar 2016 #37
hmmmm.... Plucketeer Mar 2016 #38
Really? So EVERY black person got jailed for protesting civil rights abuses in the 1960s? mhatrw Mar 2016 #48
Way to be appreciative bernbabe Mar 2016 #50
Black soldiers were often in the front lines liberating the concentration camps Donkees Mar 2016 #45
Many of the "icons" seem to care more about glamour than substance. Nyan Mar 2016 #32
It's all about keeping the oligarchs in power. n/t SciDude Mar 2016 #42
This just shows Bernie's lifelong lack of judgement FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #16
Those were "khakis", i.e., khaki colored pants - all the guys wore them back then. Divernan Mar 2016 #19
HILLARY NEVER WOULD! freepotter Mar 2016 #26
But if Hillary HAD protested something, she would have dressed more appropriately FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #30
Whenever I see a pic xloadiex Mar 2016 #20
I'm sure there are pictures of Hillary chained as well tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #21
LOL! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #40
Well she does Goldman Handcuffs. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #51
...wait a minute...I don't see John Lewis... Raster Mar 2016 #22
Here's a few more pics from that day Zorra Mar 2016 #23
That's so Bernie... just doing the right thing on the daily. I'm voting for HIM. AzDar Mar 2016 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #28
It's too bad this didn't come out sooner - TBF Mar 2016 #29
He has always strived to do the right thing Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #34
wow, just wow Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #39
Has Jonathan Capehart seen this? :-) ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #46
You have been preemptively blocked from his twitter. :-) JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #53

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
1. Show me a white guy who would chain himself to people sitting in dirt. nt
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

I wonder about the "preferential" treatment. Did they arrest the black protesters as well or did they just get him because he was also vocal about what he was doing?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. and a group of white liberal clergy tried to tell me after seeing this...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

....that Bernie has not done enough to attract voters of color.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
4. That means he hasn't flown any of them around in his personal jet and done other
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:18 PM
Mar 2016

things for the leaders.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
6. It will always be "not good enough Bernie" no matter what.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

He's got his record and his integrity so that's just going to have to be enough.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
43. Sorry But They're Right
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

It comes down to a question of campaign strategy. He has made many, many mistakes. In the area of voters of color, it comes down to excessive reliance on rallies and social media rather than retail politics. For example, Congressman Clyburn shared that Bernie never asked for his endorsement. Would he have received it if he'd asked? No BUT Mr. Clyburn likely would have held off his endorsement until AFTER the South Carolina primary.

On the bright side, few things focus a candidate's attention more than losing. He already has ramped up his game. Calling for Michigan Governor Snyder to resign, which Mrs. Clinton has not done, was a good start which garnered him some key nominations in the Motor City and vicinity. His statement that Detroit used to be our nation's richest city helped as well.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
47. Retail politics = pay to play machine "you scratch my back if I fork over some scratch" crap
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:28 PM
Mar 2016

That's the game Sanders does not play that the Clinton play so well.

Sanders is not a power broker with a huge network of patronage givers at his beck and call. Sanders' only power comes from the people agreeing with his ideas.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
52. Bernie's entire appeal is that he is not one of the "players" in the "great game."
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:28 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton gets nods from the most powerful people in the world. This year's electorate shrugs. She gets no bump.

The only thing that might help her is to get a nod from Elizabeth Warren. Otherwise the battle lines are drawn and Bernie should be at rallies.

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
44. I believe it was a different cop...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

The one that hauled him off to the patty wagon had a smoke in his mouth as well. A sign of the times I'd say.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
27. This makes it not only true but very real to the times. Thank
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

you Bernie and all the others who were there.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
10. And he is so humble - he never really boasts about his civil rights work
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

God, he is authentic - we need him in the White House

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
14. This is truly important.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

I wonder what those DU members of the AA group think about Bernie now.
It probably won't change any minds.



 

SciDude

(79 posts)
41. Bernie is not acceptable to the AA establishement apparently because he doesn't whole-heartedly
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:08 PM
Mar 2016

support reparations (he's just too white) and yet they enthusiastically back the (very white southern) woman that is on video referring to them as "super-predators" and promising to grind them under heel.

If that's not cognitive dissonance I don't know what is?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
54. Don't forget that AA families have been decimated by Clinton policies...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:28 AM
Mar 2016

...policies that put a great number of their fathers, brothers, sons in prison, and that deprived them of their vote, their ability to work, and more.

AND. The Clintons lined their pockets with cash from the prison industrial complex.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
15. Doesn't matter
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:15 PM
Mar 2016

The "civil rights icons" didn't know him. This is just "pandering." Where has he been lately? Blah, blah, blah.

Great photo, btw.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
18. You're right. It's very sad. Every time I read on DU that AAs don't know
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

him, wonder what he's ever done for AAs, I hope this pic pops up. And just a note from this old lady -- back in 1963, very, very few white people involved themselves in ANY kind of civil rights protest like this. The exceptions were often Jewish people like Bernie. They were all considered to be commies, agitators, traitors to their race, n***r lovers, etc. They had the shit beaten out of them, generally. A protest didn't consist of a bit of sign-waving and then home to lunch.

Isn't any of this covered in high school history any more? Even AAs on DU don't seem to understand what happened back then or what it was like back then, not in any depth, anyway.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
25. AAs didn't know their history
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

In regard to civil rights? Are you really suggesting that? Really? The history regarding civil rights isn't 'back then', it's a constant; it has never stopped.

Many people continued fighting civil rights to this day, constantly and are known to black communities, they don't need photos shown to remind people that they were once there.

Also, getting arrested or even beaten by police during the civil rights movement cannot be impressive for African Americans since it happened to everyone they knew.

I imagine in the future, someone will post picture of a politician that went down to Ferguson and participated in the protests for a number of weeks or months, before returning back to their state. Meanwhile the residents of ferguson remained there year after year fighting the good fight. Then 50 years later, a politician asking for their votes and his followers harrass them for daring to 'forget their history' that involved this guy protesting for them back in the day.

You can imagine how that would go down, and is currently going down. But do continue.

If anything comes out of this election, I hope that a few people start to grasp how tone and attitude goes a hell of a long way in getting people to even listening to what is said.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. I have a serious question to ask you. When you talk about
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

knowing history do you know about the white people who were involved on your side? Other than the one who were killed when they went down to register people to vote and someone made a movie of them?

Many of us were involved and what we see as a problem is when so many people deny that we were even there.

My own involvement was with black groups on campus and Native Americans at Wounded Knee and other towns on the reservation.

Is it that hard to acknowledge that some of us tried to help?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
36. It needs to be asked politely because we are older and these
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

youths do not seem believe that we could possible care. So when I ask I try to be respectful. I still care and I want them to know that I do.

Screaming and yelling will not translate into caring.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
38. hmmmm....
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

"Also, getting arrested or even beaten by police during the civil rights movement cannot be impressive for African Americans since it happened to everyone they knew."

So, any of we fellow humans that volunteered to be baton practice - when it was obvious we didn't have to - are/were just incidental?

I can tell you that at that time (early 60s) I would NOT have volunteered to stand with a chained group of POC. Judge me as you might, I just wasn't into offering myself as a target.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
48. Really? So EVERY black person got jailed for protesting civil rights abuses in the 1960s?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

Really?

And every black person endorsed Jesse Jackson for President in the 1970s?

So white guy getting arrested for protesting civil rights abuses in the 1960s and endorsing Jesse Jackson for President in the 1970 is less impressive than a Goldwater girl who turned War on Poverty welfare into corporate welfare and actively campaigned to bring superpredators to heel with the world's highest incarceration rate?

bernbabe

(370 posts)
50. Way to be appreciative
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

Do you know how few white people did this at that time?

There are records of Bernie fighting for civil rights for all sorts of people for his entire life, and you just blow it off.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
32. Many of the "icons" seem to care more about glamour than substance.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

Elton John was playing for Hillary, and that's just terrible.
She only came out in support of gay marriage in 2013. And she hadn't said a word in support of gay rights all those years. While Bernie ran on pro-gay rights platform since as early as 1972.
Nobody could believe it's about records anymore. It's about connections, money, status, and all the same parties that they have been going to for years.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/27/1397068/-BERNIE-Boringly-Pro-LGBT-and-Pro-Civil-Rights-for-the-last-40-to-50-years

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
16. This just shows Bernie's lifelong lack of judgement
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

I mean who wears white pants to a (school desegregation) protest at a construction site???





(just in case: )

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
19. Those were "khakis", i.e., khaki colored pants - all the guys wore them back then.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016

I had one friend whose high school nick name was "Khaki Jack".

http://www.ballyhoovintage.com/product/24618.html

freepotter

(348 posts)
26. HILLARY NEVER WOULD!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Oh, wait....I can't find any instance, except for a recent campaign stunt, where Hillary has ever joined in a direct action protest for equal rights. The only references I find in many pages of Google searche results are of groups protesting her actions.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
30. But if Hillary HAD protested something, she would have dressed more appropriately
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:34 PM
Mar 2016

I'm sure.

(Only 62 posts from you in 15 years...and I am one of them? I feel honored. )

xloadiex

(628 posts)
20. Whenever I see a pic
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

of Bernie getting arrested in Chicago, I'm relieved to see my dad wasn't one of the arresting officers.

I wonder what happened to Bernie after the pic. The neighborhood I grew up in was pretty bad. If you were black, you would never have been able to set a foot in our area in the 60's without getting beaten badly. The area was well known for this.

That pic looks like it's from the 1st ward, one of the most corrupt wards in the city (among many) back then.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
29. It's too bad this didn't come out sooner -
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

I think if I were AA and living in SC I would've wanted to know this before the primaries. We just need to keep working hard and make sure this info gets out on Facebook, Twitter, wherever we can show folks. The thing is the people on DU are very interested in politics and talking about issues on a daily basis (or close to it). But I'd have to guess we are not that large a part of the population. What might seem redundant to us is something that many people have not seen or heard (especially if they are only watching CNN).

Spread it far & wide!!

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
34. He has always strived to do the right thing
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

But even if this does see the light of day with the MSM, Hillary and her stooges will figure out a way to turn it against him. It is their way, and they know the path well.

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