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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:12 PM Mar 2016

Just be aware, another nasty bomb by Krugman today

The sneering tone and dismissal by Krugman of any value in Sanders' position continues. I'm sure the hive is loving it. It is filled with straw men and unsupported arguments.

for example, Krugman writes:

Why, then, did we ever pursue these agreements? A large part of the answer is foreign policy: Global trade agreements from the 1940s to the 1980s were used to bind democratic nations together during the Cold War, Nafta was used to reward and encourage Mexican reformers, and so on.


How did that one turn out, Paul? How 'reformed' is Mexico today?

Then he conflates trade with climate issues...

The whole sour diarreha pile here
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/opinion/trade-and-tribulation.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1
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Just be aware, another nasty bomb by Krugman today (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2016 OP
thanks for the heads up. The Nobel prize for economics is bbgrunt Mar 2016 #1
To be honest AtticusInd Mar 2016 #2
Zedillo? there's nothing that guy did that de la Madrid didn't do, MisterP Mar 2016 #3
We get it, Paul... dchill Mar 2016 #4
Screw that dishonest little bastard Krugman BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #5
Liberal icons are losing all credibility JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #6
What becomes apparent is that they are part of the oligarchy BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #7
There is a big societal shift occurring, and the elite cannot see it. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #8

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
1. thanks for the heads up. The Nobel prize for economics is
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

obviously not based on value free, objective contributions to the field.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
3. Zedillo? there's nothing that guy did that de la Madrid didn't do,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016

and only PEMEX, the influx of US jobs, and hitting "reset" on the peso with $20B from Clinton saved Mexico from repeating the 80s slump

he wasn't even the favorite but Salinas's bro had Colosio gunned down and his ministers butchered campesinos in the same area where all those students and priests are disappearing

dchill

(38,441 posts)
4. We get it, Paul...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

You're doubling down on that Hillary cabinet appointment. Just the job for someone whose credibility has been sold. You can join Capehart and others there!

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
5. Screw that dishonest little bastard Krugman
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

Here is a good takedown of Krugman, with Ezra Klein thrown in as a bonus:

http://theweek.com/articles/601908/ezra-klein-paul-krugman-both-faceplanted-bernie-sanders-takedowns

<Let's roll the tape. Ezra Klein, founder of Vox and well-known for his wonk brand, was first out of the gate with a long piece brutally savaging Sanders' single-payer plan as an unrealistic, "irresponsible," "puppies and rainbows" proposal. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman approvingly cited this argument, piling on that its funding relied on a "magic asterisk" — a reference to his takedowns of various conservative budgets which slash taxes to the bone while not explaining how they will avoid increasing the budget deficit — concluding that single-payer was a "distraction from the real issues."

Yet Klein's takedown of single-payer committed some rather shocking errors of fact. He argues that Sanders plan is misleading about the biggest source of single-payer savings, which, he seemed to imply, is the denial of coverage to patients. But as Seth Ackerman carefully explains in extant universal systems most of the savings comes from governments leaning on providers, and Klein (among several other errors) is squirrelly indeed on this crucial point:>

JFKDem62

(383 posts)
6. Liberal icons are losing all credibility
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

The more they back the oligarchy, the more no one is going to listen to them.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
7. What becomes apparent is that they are part of the oligarchy
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

And they defend their own. The feigned concern about the little people is to keep them in line and to feel better about themselves.

JFKDem62

(383 posts)
8. There is a big societal shift occurring, and the elite cannot see it.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

The shift is palpable to the people.
We can feel it to our core.

The elite seem totally oblivious.
Even including the so called liberal press who are clueless.

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