Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumOk I just watched the CNN video re: the disruption at Trump's rally
and I previously posted a MoveOn FB link and email regarding the disruption. I'm not so sure this is a good thing. Now Trump supporters can feel free to show up at Bernie's rallies and wreak fucking havoc. Ultimately Trump bears the blame for this but guys, the Law of Unintended Consequences could apply here.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)But you know what?
Maybe it's a battle of psyches that was bound to happen.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I am glad to see people fighting back and... I'll be happy to be proved wrong. It was my gut reaction. Trump supporters could have shown up to a Sanders event already. It's just that I'm concerned about tit-for-tat retaliation.
berningman
(144 posts)or killed by cops in a situation like that.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Yes, they can, and in fact, we have seen a few lone Trump supporters escorted out from Sanders rallies.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)imagine a whole crowd of them. Oh well, gotta cross that bridge when we get to it.
TM99
(8,352 posts)If this happens, it happens. Something big is brewing. The establishment refuses to see it. Violence may sadly erupt. I hope not but I won't be surprised if and when it does.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)for years that we need another revolution, violent or not. Now that it may actually be brewing.... My reaction is YIKES! Interesting. (at least to me.)
retrowire
(10,345 posts)It's okay to be "yikes" about it. But yeah, I don't think our forefathers or ancestors had a jolly good time being apart of any type of revolution. They did it for the cause they knew to be true in their hearts.
I have no doubt that there is fear involved in that. But I think my love for my fellow man trumps fear. My love for this nation to not succumb to hatred will trump any fear I could have.
This is bigger than us.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I consciously had one attitude and eventually just the opposite emerged and shocked me. It's a good thing though. (Yeah I've had therapy.)
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Good or bad, it is good.
This breaks the Clinton/DSW media blackout.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Where are Her supporters on this? Hmmm...
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Democracy is scary. Keep it spirited and non-violent. A clash of ideas is a good thing. We've given them succor far too long. Its time to show the numbers in the street.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Fairgo
(1,571 posts)I thought it was in a public place.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Fairgo
(1,571 posts)and came off like an ass. I apologise.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)in more ways than one. Time to log off.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Do you bring kids or not?
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)I usually asked mine. If they were too young to answer, they were probably not ready to join a protest or a rally.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)The fact is they will probably bash each other down the line because many of them are angry and violent people in the end.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)They won't go away by placating them. At some point people have to take a stand and I see today's protest as a positive sign.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)do not want that.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)I wish people could just sit down and peacefully discuss issues but look at the way Trump encourages violence. Being nice to people like him and supporters is seen as a sign of weakness by them.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)maybe it is 1968 all over again...I just hope we make progress this time.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)They will not go away by ignoring them. They will only get stronger if you allow that nonsense to continue. They are the shame of our country.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)From the little I've seen of today's events, the protesters merely said "there are more of us than there are of you" and that's fine with me
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)My second was that he knew before he arrived that he would be canceling the speech/rally.
If these were truly Bernie supporters who were looking for a fight, I wish that wouldn't have happened. I remember 1968 and it was a bad scene. Let's not get to that point ever again.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The violence was from Trump supporters pushing them.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)Most of Trump supporters are tough guys in crowd when they are supported by a few hundred of them. They are following Trump because he is the Alpha male and they are Betas. They like someone telling them what to think and leading them.
They would never start anything surround by 1000s of Sanders supporters.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I am very apprehensive about this...not really sure how to describe my gut feel but claiming that Berners are somehow heavily involved makes me very uncomfortable.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)it probably will bring Bernie more votes - but what happens at other events of his?
Maybe this was all inevitable. OTOH I do like to see people take a stand against who another DUer calls "der Trumpenfuhrer".
MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)...Bernie will not incite violence.
And something tells me Bernie supporters are probably, for the most part, much more peace-loving. I just can't see things rising to the same level as they would at a Trump rally.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)If the Trumplings want to come yell at a sanders rally? Come on down guys. We've had worse from better.
There's no reason to not challenge Fascists.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)They do like to get physical.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Vote and work for Bernie.
It is a waste of precious callingband campaigning time to disrupt the rallies of other candidates.
unc70
(6,110 posts)Emotions were running high, Trump had set the stage, cameras were rolling. Mostly just yelling, pushing, shoving, and a few punches thrown. Just a few minor injuries.
The police were restrained in their response. All in all, more symbolic than frightening. I've probably seen worse involving high school sports rivals.