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merrily

(45,251 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:09 PM Mar 2016

Dr. Dean was always a rich, privileged center right guy.

I've been reading that he has sold out. He was always a rich center right guy, except on the issue of medicare for all. That is the issue he sold out on. AFAIK, it's the only issue he's sold out on because he was already wrong on so many. While Bernie gets condemned because the NRA rates him F to D minus, the NRA rated Dean A and even endorsed him a few times. Even when he had to choose between unequal marriage, civil unions"and equal marriage, he took the civil union road, rather than equal marriage. Supposedly, it was the hardest decision he ever made. Equal marriage should be a no brainer.

As sang no one, ever, "We're going to the chapel and we're going to get civil unioned."

If you want more info:

Bite me Manny's open letter to Dr. Dean http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?6238-Dear-Dr-Dean-I-m-very-sorry&p=34479#post34479

My biographical post about Dr. Dean http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?6246-Dean-Before-the-Scream-and-Now&p=34545#post34545

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Dr. Dean was always a rich, privileged center right guy. (Original Post) merrily Mar 2016 OP
Excellent, as always. Autumn Mar 2016 #1
Why thank you, Ms. Autumn. Mighty gracious of you. merrily Mar 2016 #2
Anytime Ms merrily. Happy to oblige. Autumn Mar 2016 #3
The ultimate, professional, elite liberal Democrat in the vein of Tommy Franks' appalachiablue Mar 2016 #4
In both cases, follow the money and the establishment goals. merrily Mar 2016 #6
A Changed Man But... corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #5
Sorry, I do not understand your post. merrily Mar 2016 #7
never was a fan eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #8
Many were. Many were not but supported Dean bc of Kerry's IWR vote. merrily Mar 2016 #9

appalachiablue

(41,102 posts)
4. The ultimate, professional, elite liberal Democrat in the vein of Tommy Franks'
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

new book, 'Listen, Liberal!'. Some distortion of what I thought he was, revealed by his own words and record of late. What's with him and his progressive bro. Jim? ..Never mind.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. In both cases, follow the money and the establishment goals.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think either of them is, or ever was, liberal.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
5. A Changed Man But...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

Sure, he's wrong about the 2016 cycle but I refuse to let his MASSIVE contributions as DNC Chair to be forgotten. He, more than anyone, deserves the lion's share of the credit for Democrats' gains in 2006 and 2008. I am convinced that Barack Obama would not have become President without Dr. Dean as DNC Chair.

Where's you go wrong, Governor?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Sorry, I do not understand your post.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:19 AM
Mar 2016

I don't see any change in Dean and I don't see any inconsistency between his doing a good job as former DNC chair and his endorsing Hillary. At this point, the DNC is, in my view, institutionally undemocratic (small d) about Presidential elections and heavily anti-liberal. In 2008, Obama was the candidate of the 2008 Democratic PTB (Ted Kennedy, Reid, Pelosi, et al.) and therefore of the DNC and in 2016 Hillary patently is.

I don't know where you are seeing change or inconsistency.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Many were. Many were not but supported Dean bc of Kerry's IWR vote.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

I was too uninformed then to make that distinction and Kerry was a favorite son of my state to boot. Someone did introduce me to the Speaker of the Massachusetts House and his wife while I stood on line behind them to vote for Kerry. Nicest, most gracious guy you'd ever want to meet. Currently doing time in prison, like quite a few Speakers of the Massachusetts House lately.

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