Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumIs there any criticism of HRC that's not "negative"?
I'm so damn sick of that side whining like babies and treating us like shit when we share our concerns (and yes sometimes "attacks" with her coziness to big money, regime change, and the status quo.
Now Barney Frank is saying Bernie is going "negative".
Apparently Barney is more comfortable with her relatively recent stance against gay marriage than we are. Does he forget?
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)now he just seems to be a jerk....
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)He was someone I admired back then.
Now, not so much.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)we seem to be in opposite land. where up is down and down is up and liberal is conservative and Conservative is Liberal (er wouldn't go that far but it sorta goes that direction)
2banon
(7,321 posts)and that Dodd Frank bill is a Bankster's wet dream Imo. Had to put up with an interview experience on PBS News Hour tonight so he can defend Dodd Frank and explain how wonderful that bill is, and how useless Glass Steagal was, well, blathering on and on not saying anything at all really.
I can't stand him.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Just for some context
2banon
(7,321 posts)tonight.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)or "going negative" or "smears". If it's opinion, I can understand. But in the face of actual facts ..."Who are you going to believe...me or your lying eyes?" it boggles the mind.
It's the Coronation Acolytes.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)+100
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Especially quoting her actual positions on healthcare, capital punishment, TPP, ttip, domestic spying, torture, gay marriage, dadt, doma, for profit prisons, and endless war in the middle east.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)her position on all those things, makes her the hater.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)What else is there, but "read my lips"...now.
Inconvenient facts create the hazy atmosphere of denial. And, the irrelevant one-liners.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)to them, then maybe they should look at why that is.
Barney Frank, Howard Dean, Barbara Boxer and so many more who have a close relationship with the Clintons (and the current Democratic party) need to open their minds as to why so many are not singing her praises. We are tired of being cast aside as second class citizens if we don't go along with their ideas as to what/how the party should be. Their ideas are no longer progressive nor beneficial to most of us.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Took the money, or something.
Same with Al Franken. Good old Al, converted to the church of Supply Side Jesus
Isn't it all amazing! And I thought I knew these guys!
SHRED
(28,136 posts)He's good on some issues but he's a Blue Dog.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I guess he finds that he likes it more and more.
In all it doesn't strike me that these people are very deep.
I mean, when the times demand a bit of fucking depth, they're failures.
dogman
(6,073 posts)Now he speaks the language.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)after he became a member of the board of directors for a bank. I'm sure that bank has altruistic intentions for its customers.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)but, had reservations about her leadership skills and thought she would make an excellent veep for Bernie.
Not anymore.
The things she and her team and her supporters here have done went a long way to convince me that she is not fit to haul garbage.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I am friends with several garbage haulers. They have principles.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)and she's a confident speaker. I just don't care for her policies, actions or the things that she says very much.
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)She seems really to not want to rub elbows with the common working people.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Guess I missed them.
...I can't look at her anymore, in those Mao jackets.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And the Gatherings are Small very small --- which makes it baffling about where those suppose amazing votes are coming from. Just amazing, indeed.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)and that dispels the much-touted but ultimately false inevitability narrative. The Empress has no clothes. Plus I believe she's as thin-skinned as he is, she can't hack being reminded of what she truly is.
She only shows up at small venues with high-rolling donors because she doesn't want to associate with the rabble. I've heard her talk about the activist left and she loathes us.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)I put it this way. What goes around comes around. It starts at the Hillary Camp and always has. They provoke we respond then poof welcome to Faux smh and yes many Hillary supporters watch Faux. Some are very very anti Obama
Lorien
(31,935 posts)simply because we're talking about facts about Hillary. Bernie is a boy scout compared to pretty much every politician since Carter. I think that's why they hate him so much; he is, as a GOP pundit once said "too clean, too honest, and has too long a record of always fighting for the middle class, which makes him almost impossible to beat in a fair election."
Bingo!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)corporate.
He's just another shill in an ever increasing Entrenched Elite & Cushy Establisment Turd Wayer list.
They really are in a panic, that their compfy boat, could get rocked by Bernie...make over $250,000 then they are panicking.
democrank
(11,085 posts)Just get your ticket to the coronation and genuflect. Forget issues you believe in. Forget long-held principles. Support the machine. And, if you care about that Iraq War vote....remember....that was a long time ago. Get over it.
Treating us like "shit" is nothing new. It`s standard practice until just before election time when they need our vote to win. You could spend a whole day reading quotes from Corporate Headquarters about what they think of the party`s "radical" left.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)area51
(11,896 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)I used to love Chairman Frank. He represented the people of Massachusetts with zeal and vigor. Then, he retired and became another shill like Howard Dean.
Words fail to capture my disappointment.
Which candidate for president supported DOMA? Which one fought it?
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Donkees
(31,337 posts)"Any event, action, inaction, utterance, or thought, which negate or can be construed to negate the uniqueness or the grandiose superiority of the narcissist humiliate him. Living in a big city, belonging to a group of peers, any sign of disapproval, disagreement, criticism, or remonstrance reduce him to a state of insulted, sulking agitation.
The narcissist interprets everything as addressed to his person ("ad hominem" rather than to his actions. The list of things, real or imagined, by which a narcissist might be slighted is dizzying indeed. When contradicted, when deprived of special treatment, when subjected to an attitude or comment which he judges to contravene his grandiose, superior self-image or his sense of entitlement he is beside himself with indignant rage.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Bernie.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)goofball statement by barney get by her - to the point we could not really understand anything barney said from there - especially when he tried to shush her.
bernie and his surrogates are having to endure so much shit from the pundits and hillary "supporters" on msm - but, they are so dedicated and committed to the campaign, they are doing what it takes.
i've witnessed the most ridiculous statements, questions and insinuations by the pundits - not only toward nina, but alan grayson, keith ellison, and even tulsi gabbard. they handle it with strength and are a credit to bernie, the campaign and the american voters. chris hayes has lost all integrity in my eyes and rachel has gone completely goofy.