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So which states are they going to steal next (Original Post) Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 OP
I believe New York will be the main one. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #1
They are screwing withe the databases here, removing Democratic affiliation from many Dragonfli Mar 2016 #25
Well.. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #2
There are reports of it going on in Philly too. xloadiex Mar 2016 #6
People need to go up to their election board to verify their registration Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #7
From what I just read in the Buffalo paper online it is worse than that BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12
It is disgusting. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #14
Both parties wanted it that way BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #26
That is a direct attack on an open and democratic society. Direct attack. nt stillwaiting Mar 2016 #17
Who is stealing states? ... nt salinsky Mar 2016 #3
You tell me Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #8
Ummm ... Rightwing SCOTUS justices ... salinsky Mar 2016 #10
They are changing databases in states where the only outcome is long time Democrats Dragonfli Mar 2016 #15
They have their 'strategy' planned so that no stolen states can be contested yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #4
Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, & Washington. BTW, it is "election fraud", not "voter fraud", Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #5
NY is a closed primary. The deadline has already passed to change party affiliations. LonePirate Mar 2016 #16
Beware party affiliation flipping in New York. Seems to be a feature wherever Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #20
I think the party change deadline was back in October so changes since then are ineligible to vote. LonePirate Mar 2016 #21
The end of new registrations and changing of your registration information was yesterday with the Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #23
The ones with the most delegates. They will risk being exposed so they will focus on the most gains GoneFishin Mar 2016 #9
Election fraud. Not voter fraud. jeff47 Mar 2016 #11
In other countries they have people watching over elections Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #13
We have, and I say this honestly without hyperbole, reached the point where our elections need UN Dragonfli Mar 2016 #18
Yes Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #19
Cali, Philly, and Alaska. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #22
Wisconsin. The state party leadership has recently changed, but their allegiance ... Scuba Mar 2016 #24

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
25. They are screwing withe the databases here, removing Democratic affiliation from many
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

They did it not just to me, but others as well, all appear to be hose likely to vote Sanders in the primary, since they effectively "kicked me out" of my party of 37 years, unless Sanders wins the primary, I will write in my primary vote for Sanders at the time of the general election thereby taking back my primary vote that belongs to me, and vote working families party down ticket of the presidency, (they endorse nearly always Democrats but chose the ones that are the most working family friendly rather than party backed).

And, since they no longer want this Democrat, there will be one fewer Democrat in the future, likely more, with a little more effort (if enough has not already been put forth) by DWS, Democratic enrollment will drop yet again, likely down to 25% after this primary clusterfuck. She has done such a bang up job so far deceasing Democratic enrollment that the party should give her a medal.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
2. Well..
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

Thom Hartmann said that there have been flipped registrations in NY, and today is the last day to register as a Democrat & it is a closed election state. Hmmm... So look out for NY.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
6. There are reports of it going on in Philly too.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Absentee ballots are flooding into Wa also.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/absentee-votes-flood-in-before-democratic-caucuses/

In addition to emails, the Clinton camp sent a mailer to tens of thousands of voters, which included an appeal from former President Clinton along with affidavit forms and a postage-paid return envelope.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
7. People need to go up to their election board to verify their registration
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

Get them to check the registration just before the election and if it has been changed at the polls then someone along the line has been changing them. Record who you spoke to

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
12. From what I just read in the Buffalo paper online it is worse than that
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

New York voters can only register online today because state offices are closed for Good Friday. Today is the end of voter registration for a primary that is still over 3 weeks off.

And New York state law says that any change in voter registration between parties, or from Independent to Democratic or Republican, will not take effect until after the November election. So Independent voters who decided to switch their registrations to Democratic and vote for Sanders in the April 19 primary will not be able to vote in the Democratic primary.

I don't see any way Bernie is going to beat Hillary in New York with a closed primary and independents blocked from switching to Democratic to vote in the primary.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
26. Both parties wanted it that way
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

Better to help their establishment candidates get the nomination. They don't want Independents to see if they like a candidate in either party and then vote in their primary.

So if you're an Independent, both parties are saying we will give you the 2 choices you have in November. You don't have any say in it.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
10. Ummm ... Rightwing SCOTUS justices ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

... appointed by Republican presidents?

That might be something we should look to avoid.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
15. They are changing databases in states where the only outcome is long time Democrats
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

cant vote in their own primary?

Interesting theory, I give you points for absurd creativity.

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
4. They have their 'strategy' planned so that no stolen states can be contested
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

This might force Bernie to run Independent.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
5. Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, & Washington. BTW, it is "election fraud", not "voter fraud",
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

unless, that is, you are a republicon.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
16. NY is a closed primary. The deadline has already passed to change party affiliations.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

Brand new voter registrations end today.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
20. Beware party affiliation flipping in New York. Seems to be a feature wherever
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:07 PM
Mar 2016

registration software has been integrated with GEMS vote tabulating software (sometimes referred to as eBook registration software).

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
21. I think the party change deadline was back in October so changes since then are ineligible to vote.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

I expect there will be numerous reports of people who changed party affiliation between October and March who will not be allowed to vote. I'm guessing many will claim it to be voter suppression.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
23. The end of new registrations and changing of your registration information was yesterday with the
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

devious little reported caveat that if you made changes online on the day before the deadline, those changes would not be recorded before the end of the deadline yesterday so will not count for the primary. Changes made at registrar offices in-person yesterday will be recorded and will count for the primary. Cute, eh?

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
9. The ones with the most delegates. They will risk being exposed so they will focus on the most gains
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

for the least risk. Or they will go after states which, for whatever reason are easy targets, like if the Secretary of State was a huge Hillary fan.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Election fraud. Not voter fraud.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

It's voter fraud when the voter does something wrong. It's election fraud when the people running the election do something wrong.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
18. We have, and I say this honestly without hyperbole, reached the point where our elections need UN
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

Monitoring as is often the case with second and third world Oligarchies and rogue governments that break their own laws.
It really has gotten so bad that my statement is not an exaggeration or an overreaction, but simple truth.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
24. Wisconsin. The state party leadership has recently changed, but their allegiance ...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

... to Democratic Party voters remains questionable.

http://bloggingblue.com/2015/08/democratic-party-of-wisconsin-signs-fundraising-pact-with-hillary-clinton/

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign has received commitments from four Democratic state parties, including in the crucial proving ground of New Hampshire, to enter joint fund-raising agreements with the campaign just as the nomination battle is beginning.

The four are a small fraction of the dozens of state parties that the Hillary for America campaign has asked to join such agreements. Many are still considering the request; some officials said they are working through how the arrangement would be put into effect while the nominating fight is underway.

Mississippi, Virginia and Wisconsin have also signed agreements with the Clinton team, according to two people briefed on the issue who were not authorized to speak publicly.


State Party Chair Martha Laning has been under fire for this since it became public. She has claimed to be neutral but her actions have put the lie to her words.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wisconsin4Sanders/comments/3im4ii/wi_democratic_party_agreement_sends_half_your/

According to the NY Times article, this agreement between the WI Democratic Party and the Hillary Clinton campaign also allows "the state parties access to more resources and allow extra help with voter registration and other matters."

As the Church Lady used to say: "Isn't that special?"

You might ask why the state Democratic party would enter into this agreement, and that is a good question. The answer is what has been driving politics since the disastrous Citizens United decision: $ money $!

According to the <a href="
">Sane Progressive</a>,

"Clinton's funders are so large that the real motivation of this isn't to get money from the states. It is too FUNNEL money to the state's by her funders (who will donate directly to the state party) and thus gain influence and control of that state's party through her funding."
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