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[Rebkeh]

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A vote for Bernie is NOT anti-black or pro-racism (updated)

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:31 PM - Edit history (1)

This subtle (not really) false narrative is ridiculous, absurd and straight up wrong.


Edited -- UPDATE -- (also a post downthread, #50)

I think there's more than one thing happening here.

There are paid operatives from various campaigns (republican and democrat), volunteer operatives, independently acting online operatives and straight up trolls. And this is not counting the majority - regular, every day supporters of a candidate, people like myself.

They all seem to be using race in one form or another to their benefit never stopping to consider how much damage they leave behind. (does not include the regular supporters)

The most destructive are the people that choose whoever has the momentum of the moment (in this case it's Bernie) and create as much conflict as possible by attacking them. If and when the pendulum swings the opposite direction, the trolls will switch sides and keep the conflict drama going .. not caring at all about any actual position. Or, for that matter, the people caught in the cross-fire - black and white both.

Too often the truth, along with facts, opinion, innuendo, legitimate data, illegitimate data, propaganda and distorted perception get into the mix and people argue the finer points of each... creating chaos.

Enough.

My OP is simply an effort to put it all in perspective with one simple truth - efforts to paint Bernie as the pro-racist is patently ridiculous. It is a false narrative I see being floated and sometimes actively pushed - that Bernie has a race problem. He does not.

I don't care who is doing it. It has to be stopped. So, let's stop giving it another minute of validation.

I just wanted everyone in this group to see this.

[rhett o rick]

1. The closer the race gets the more scared Clinton and the Ruling Class becomes the worse the

shenanigans will become. The Wealthy 1% doesn't like to lose.

[Baobab]

2. Health care sockpuppetry firms

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thats where the incentive comes from. Deep pockets

very deep pockets. Around half a million dollars in unnecessary spending per person over one lifetime in todays money. thats enough to buy a house.

In 2007-2008 close to 3/4 million dollars a day was being spent on fake people according to one trusted source.

they argue both sides of issues - have long conversations with themselves, and at the simplest level their goal is just to make intelligent discussion impossible.

In their simplest form at that time they were just annoying people who claimed to be getting incredible deals on their insurance, which they loved. They loves their insurers in a bizarre say, they said things that real people would never say.

They would have names like NCSoccerMom or DarrinsMom or whatever. Names that sounded fake.

Now they are of course much more sophisticated.

[Stardust]

3. "...close to 3/4 million dollars spent on fake people..." Please explain this intriguing assertion.

[Baobab]

4. My information is eight years old- It was 3/4 million a day.

in 2008...

nt

[Stardust]

5. But what does it mean by "fake people?" Just curious, not challenging anyone. Thanks. nt

[Baobab]

6. They use persona management software and VPNS - as well as special browsers that simulate real brows

ser entropy.

Its very sophisticated. one person can be mode to look like 50-100 different users.

its all based on the herd instinct.

A few years back, a group of scientists determined that the behavior of real cockroaches could be heavily influenced by mixing in robotic cockroaches who were dabbed with the cockroaches own family's special smell- the robotic cockroaches were programmed to spend more time out in the light, by doing this they managed to convince real cockroaches to behave in ways which were against their own best interests, by using fake cockroches that referred less hidden, less dark situations..

[Stardust]

7. Thanks.