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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:32 AM Mar 2016

Why the establishment’s freakout shows just how blind they are

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/please_get_over_the_susan_sarandon_scandal_why_the_establishments_freakout_shows_just_how_blind_they_are/

Now, it’s entirely fair to argue that Sanders supporters should vote for Clinton if she is the nominee. I might if I didn’t live in deep-blue Rhode Island. And certainly, recent history makes the Leninist notion that right-wing government can beneficially “heighten the contradictions” laughable. It is also a little funny, however, to hear Goldberg, who supports a militarist hawk in the primary when she could support another candidate, warning that a Trump presidency could lead to more “war crimes.”

The outraged handwringing, then, isn’t about Sarandon’s privilege. It’s about the Democratic establishment’s utter cluelessness when it comes to left-wing voters, to people tenuously engaged in the process who may be voting for the first time, and to people who choose not to vote more generally.

In reality, the people who don’t vote are not privileged: The poorer someone is the less likely they are to vote, as Sean McElwee pointed out last year at Politico.

“In the 2012 election, 80.2 percent of those making more than $150,000 voted, while only 46.9 percent of those making less than $10,000 voted,” McElwee wrote. “On average, each bracket turned out to vote at a rate 3.7 percentage points higher than the bracket below it.”
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Why the establishment’s freakout shows just how blind they are (Original Post) eridani Mar 2016 OP
K and r Rebkeh Mar 2016 #1
The freakout over Susan Sarandon was ridiculous. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #2
Cluelessness? Denial? Shaming? Bernin4U Mar 2016 #3
yes. susan made a point. hopemountain Mar 2016 #4
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
2. The freakout over Susan Sarandon was ridiculous.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:03 AM
Mar 2016

Since she's one of those rich Hollywood liberals. I watched the interview with Chris Hayes.

She did NOT say she would vote for Trump. She did say that he was so outrageous that if he was elected President, the shit would hit the fan sooner.

It's a lot of the same crap that some people say about Michael Moore: "He's a rich liberal so he must be a hypocrite."

Michael Moore drove from Flint to the Sundance Film Festival in a beaten up old van with his copy of "Roger and Me", with no idea if anyone would even watch it.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
3. Cluelessness? Denial? Shaming?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:05 AM
Mar 2016

It's happening in both parties, and hard to imagine they don't see it at all.

I tend to think it's more about trying to minimize the opposition. Like how Cindy Sheehan was publicly cast as a crazy outsider, even as she represented a huge portion of the population.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
4. yes. susan made a point.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:34 AM
Mar 2016

and, she did not say that she would not vote for clinton.

no matter who is elected, there is no stopping the revolution.

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