Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumtrustvote.org reports filing, on June 6, a RICO lawsuit over election fraud
trustvote.org reports that it filed a lawsuit over election fraud. New media are among the defendants. I have been googling, but have not yet found the complaint. I watched most of the shorter video below. The organization claims Bernie won, saying Hillary Clinton was used to make sure Bernie was not the nominee (implied: Hillary was unaware of the fraud.)
The website: http://trustvote.org/
I don't mean to discourage anyone, but RICO civil lawsuits get dismissed a lot. I believe, but am not certain, that one by this group over the 2004 Presidential was filed and dismissed. One against the Clintons (didn't check what the suit was about ) was filed and dismissed last year. Some info on RICO lawsuit, if you're interested https://tollefsenlaw.com/civil-actions-under-rico/
Long video from the website-neighborhood of two hours
shorter, but not very enlightening video
Original DU thread about this http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280210008
Other videos are at trustvote.org
The Press Release of trustvote.org (for dissemination--no copyright issue)
Bob Fitrakis, Cliff Arnebeck and Lori Grace
7:30-10:00 pm, Wednesday May 25, and Friday May 27, 2016, (video above is of Fridays presentation)
Sunrise Center, 645 Tamalpais, Corte Madera, CA
A Summary of the Evening of May 27th: This evening covered the issues we are all facing as voters in the 2016 election. Lori Grace, on behalf of the Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity (www.trustvote.org), presented Bob Fitrakis, PhD, JD, and Cliff Arnebeck, JD, two election lawyers she has worked with since 2004. They talked about past challenges to election integrity in our presidential elections, the challenges we face in the current presidential election, and the opportunities we have as voters to create a more honest election.
They showed videos from past presidential elections that point to the problems from those years and discussed what was done about those problems at that time. Then they discussed what problems exist for the upcoming election and what can be done to address them. Overall, our best protection to have a trustworthy election is to be an informed public that will demand more public oversight of elections and exit polling and to have the patience and persistence to deal with a system that currently does not give us the reliability and transparency we need.
A Look at the Upcoming 2016 Election: 2016 is, of course, a presidential election year and problems with voting in the primary elections have already been showing up. Not a good sign for the general election!
In watching the video above, you will learn Learn why the integrity of this Novembers election may be of serious concern. Here in the United States, all of our votes are counted by private corporations with proprietary software which they do not want people to examine if there is a problem with the election. These problems could include unwarranted purging of voters, apparent flipping of votes, disappearing of a candidate(s) while voting and disappearing of votes. An examination of Scytl/SOE and ES&S, two vote-counting companies, shows many negative reviews regarding their management of elections. (You can read numerous such reviews by doing a web search for the company name and reviews.) In addition, some people may have concerns that companies like Scytl/SOE and ES&S which managed the votes in Kentucky, New York and Arizona, have directors who are also on the boards of other companies involved in wire-tapping, the defense industry and military interrogations. Additional concerns are that some American votes may actually be counted in Toronto, Canada and in Barcelona, Spain.
Still another hurdle also exists when election results appear to be inaccurate and that is at least in California, the election must be certified before ballots can be inspected. That takes in California thirty days so by the time, the apparent winner has already proclaimed and celebrated his or her victory- a difficult situation to reverse or re-examine.
With more states primary elections coming up on June 7th, including one in California, which is a potentially decisive state for the two Democratic candidates, The Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity is concerned that The Media Consortium has cancelled all remaining exit polls for the remaining primaries. Thus, the Institute, a division of Sunrise Center,a nonprofit registered in California, is calling for an exit poll to be held on election day. All raw data will be released immediately for inspection. If an exit poll is funded by a nonprofit, contributions to the exit poll are tax-deductible. Results will give people true knowledge about whether questionable results have occurred in the election. Then audits would be much easier to organize. Happily, California is mostly a paper ballot state. Additionally, a new kind of audit is being launched by Democracy Counts. This will occur on Election Day as well.
Concern has been expressed that the exit polls of the Democratic Primaries for this year, when compared to electronic voting machine totals, seem to show a pattern that might suggest that the electronic vote totals in about ten states may have been shifted from apparently votes from Sanders to Clinton.. In contrast to other nations, exit polls used currently by the Federal Government to assess election fraud in other countries are adjusted continuously on election day to match electronic voting machine totals, rather than to determine whether the electronic vote is accurate. Edison Research which has done all the prior exit polls in this primary has refused to release the raw data, as it has routinely refused since 2004. A lawsuit is being submitted in Ohio about the refusal of both the Media Consortium and Edison Research to release the raw data which would show much more accurately who people really voted for.
Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)Response to merrily (Original post)
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merrily
(45,251 posts)I think defendants have 30 days to answer--and they may get an extension. I doubt if just filing of a complaint, without more, is going to give the convention pause. At this stage, I am not sure that anyone cares how Hillary got the nomination as long as she got it. If the suit had been in the headlines for a while, they may have been embarrassed and alarmed enough to deus ex machina Joe Biden, but I don't know if this hitting when it does is going to have a huge effect.
Besides, if Trump is her opposition and even the filers of the suit say she was basically unaware. No doubt also unaware that Bubba was campaigning for her in Massachusetts on primary day, too.
I have not watched the long video yet, but I will at some point. However, I have already emailed a link to my OP to some relatives and friends.
senz
(11,945 posts)I don't understand what happened there but am glad the videos and other information are available.
Truth needs to be spread around. Democracy can't be healthy without it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I have been noticing for a while, though, that posts I was sure I had journaled are not in my journal.
Yes, we need to spread truth. Those who are financially and/or physically able need to do more than that, though. And soon.
I am not sure if it's too late--if things are too far gone. If they are not, they will be soon, I think.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)This item up.
Of course, like you say, Fitraikis and his group have filed RICO suits before and they have been dismissed.
The general tenor amongst the Powers that Be is that any discussion of any election fraud involves the person proposing such a theory as being a simple minded conspiracy theorist, so there is that also.
As a retired indie reporter, I remember that it took me one entire day to come up with the opening sentences for my article on George W's re-election. Those sentences read:
John Kerry did not lose the electoral votes in Florida. They were stolen.
Nor did he lose the electoral votes in Ohio. They were stolen as well.
And with these two states being a rigged game, suspicions multiply. Suspicion falls especially hard upon the supposed three and a half million votes that Bush now claims as the popular vote margin. Across the nation, at least 400,000 people used voter hotlines to report the difficulties noticed on election day. Among those complaints, a full 50,000 instances were outright malfunctioning voting machinery. And in each of these 50,000 instances the vote went to Bush. If election day machine malfunctions were random, then logic dictates that Kerry must receive the benefit of the machine failures at least a few times. Unless the breakdowns were not random. And if not random, then they must be considered part of a network of fraud.
This indicates one thing: a major crime was committed.
My header for the article was "We The People Do Not Concede" The article went on to be re-produced on over 350 blogs.
#### Now since I was writing about this subject, of course I knew the election had been stolen. But it still took me one full day before i could actually put those words on paper. This was because psychologically it was such an awful thing to realize as being true.
As much as I despised the Bush family, would they really steal an election?
If the Powers that Be can steal an election, then there is nothing else they will not do.
merrily
(45,251 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Captures it all.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)I'm hoping this one is not dismissed, but I won't hold my breath.
merrily
(45,251 posts)citizens of Massachusetts are suing Bubba and the Secretary of State over Bubba's Super Tuesday "tour" of Massachusetts polling venues.
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Chezboo
(230 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)They say they want the count from the California primary.
Chezboo
(230 posts)citing what you did - they want more CA data.
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Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)but why doesn't Bernie address this? There's decent evidence of serious fraud in this election.