The most hawkish Republican is voting Clinton, and that’s saying something

[xloadiex]

https://timeline.com/the-most-hawkish-republican-is-voting-clinton-and-thats-saying-something-e0ba938399c9#.li3vodhle

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Richard Armitage, who served as George W. Bush’s Secretary of State, has announced that he will be voting for Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump “doesn’t appear to be a Republican, he doesn’t appear to want to learn about issues,” Armitage said. But the fact that Armitage is an extremely aggressive war hawk, not a flexible centrist, makes you wonder: does his endorsement say more about Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?


This is a man who loves war. He loves it so much that when he was a soldier in Vietnam, he elected to leave his relatively quiet destroyer and fight alongside the Republic of Vietnam Navy’s riverine forces, volunteering for three additional tours of duty. He became part of the top-secret Phoenix program, a counterguerilla contingent that was “the most high-risk, nastiest, most vicious program in the Vietnam War,” according to Larry Ropka, who served alongside Armitage, adding that Phoenix was “right out of Rambo.”

[TDale313]

1. I think it's very very telling

How many Republicans are coming out of the woodworks to say "Yeah, I can live with Hillary" while so many on the left are continuing to point out how the Clintons are in large part responsible for the rightward drift of the party and feel they cannot get behind her. Does it not give Hillary supporters a moment's pause that Repugs are racing in to fill a void being left by liberals who can no longer support the third way policies the party leadership is pushing?

[Duval]

4. Does it give Hillary supporters pause?

I don't see any evidence of it, yet. Just had a chat with my sister in FL, who is a Hillary supporter. Unfortunately, she watches the MSM, and therefore doesn't know about the policies she has supported.

[TDale313]

5. It seems from what I've seen

That little of her support is policy driven. It's about the personality and the power of the moment. Also about backing someone they see as tough enough to beat Republicans at their own game and who will win at all costs (arguable but we'll see. We know she can punch left. Frankly her performance in the primaries did not fill me with confidence) On some level I get it. But we were never gonna win policy arguments with them cause that wasn't why they supported her in the first place.

[MisterP]

2. goes great with Kissinger, Kagan, Kristol, and I think Abrams

Negroponte was her side guy on Honduras in 2009: that man is a league more evil than Kissinger himself

[2banon]

8. Negroponte has been given a huge pass in the League of War Criminals here..

I have often found that curious. He's rarely mentioned I think he seems to stayout of the lime light. Just speculating. It's just a curious.

Kissinger and Negroponte in the same camp of evil, but as you say Negroponte took it on a whole new level of evil.

[felix_numinous]

3. They can party together

with Kissinger and Brock aboard the Titanic II, ignoring the iceburgs.

We either wrest the helm from this boat, or abandon this ship for another to allow it to sink under it's own weight. One way or another, their destructive effects on the planet and society have to be dealt with.

Thing is, most people on the left are not war hawks so we are outgunned and out manuvered by these sociopathic regimes, worldwide. When I imagine the future I see dead zones and domes where people have to isolate themselves from the many toxins left by this century. But even this scenario is being threatened by yet more war, more drilling.

These poisons and money are addictive and have created whole armies and teams of people to defend their endless supply to make them comfortably numb.

[Pastiche423]

6. The guy that leaked Valerie's Plame's identity

Lovely people voting for Her.

[Martin Eden]

7. I will also vote for Clinton in the general election. Does that equate me with Richard Armitage?

I don't know if Armitage is sane or rational, but I will state unequivocally that voting to keep Donald Trump out of the White House is the sane and rational thing to do for every voter who cares about our country.

I did not support Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary because of her vote for the Iraq war, her continued hawkishness, her ties to wall Street, and her neoliberalism in general. In fact, I often argued in this forum that anyone who voted to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq -- including John Kerry and Joe Biden -- should have forfeited our support in a Democratic primary.

Richard Armitage is a despicable warmongering neocon.

I was on the streets protesting against the Iraq war before it was launched.

We're both voting for Hillary Clinton in the general election.

If you're going to paint a candidate with the sins or virtues of everyone who casts a ballot for them, you'd better have a lot of brushes and a very large supply of paint in just about every color imaginable.

[HereSince1628]

9. Victoria Nuland, wife of NeoCon Robert Kagan worked under -BOTH- Clintons

If you remember the Maiden Uprising in the Ukraine; you'll remember that Nuland was the person whose communications pushing the uprising became public

And you should be aware that by purpose or through incompetence she deeply involved neoNazis.

Failed and colossal blunders international interventions are what NeoCons are best known for.

Why wouldn't they see Clinton as a politician they can play when that's what they've done in the past?