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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:55 PM May 2015

Hillary rival accuses Democrats of manipulating debate schedule to protect her

One Democratic 2016 campaign adviser who spoke to Business Insider said they believe the Democratic National Committee's debate schedule was "worked out" to benefit Hillary Clinton and hurt her opponents.

The adviser, who requested anonymity in order to speak frankly about the party's campaign arm, suggested the DNC is hosting a small number of debates in an attempt to give Clinton's more low profile rivals "less screen time." They also suggested the relatively late schedule of the debates will make it harder for Clinton's lesser known opponents to introduce themselves to voters.

Having just six Democratic debates is a far cry from 2008 when there were over 20. However, the majority of the debates in that election were hosted by other organizations. The Republican National Committee is hosting more than six 2016 debates. It will sanction at least nine debates and may add up to three more. The RNC also has an exclusivity requirement for debate participants.

The adviser claimed the DNC "explicitly promised in negotiations that there would be no exclusivity clause." They also alleged the DNC initially said there would be six debates when they began negotiating with the campaigns. "Their starting point — presumably worked out with Clinton campaign — was six debates," the adviser said. "Over the course of three months of negotiations, they never once budged from six debates, so the negotiations were all a grand act of kabuki theater."



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-rival-dnc-rigged-debate-schedule-to-help-hillary-2015-5#ixzz3ZK6534t5





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Hillary rival accuses Democrats of manipulating debate schedule to protect her (Original Post) octoberlib May 2015 OP
The 'rival' and the 'adviser:' elleng May 2015 #1
Good for O'Malley! octoberlib May 2015 #3
Not sure that this will matter. RoccoR5955 May 2015 #2
Who schedules these debates? Can't other groups schedule debates and invite all the candidates sabrina 1 May 2015 #4
If any Dem candidates show up at non- DNC sanctioned debates, octoberlib May 2015 #5
Well, there is a solution to this. Candidates go to all debates scheduled if invited. sabrina 1 May 2015 #7
I am with you on this. I think Democracy Now should have debates and maybe the BBC. rhett o rick May 2015 #11
I like that marym625 May 2015 #21
The problem here is that most likely only the DNC sanctioned debates will be televised nation wide. -none May 2015 #29
And this is why we need populist reform of the Democratic party. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #6
DU needs a group like that: Populist Reform of the Democratic Party! NYC_SKP May 2015 #10
I'll have to check that out Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #18
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1277 NYC_SKP May 2015 #19
Oh Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #20
Post it. I don't have a problem with it as a host. NYC_SKP May 2015 #24
Naaah Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #28
+1 BrotherIvan May 2015 #13
Whoops. Pay no attention to this post. I was posting about something else. Gregorian May 2015 #8
Bought and paid for. TM99 May 2015 #9
When we say "Democratic Party" there could be confusion. There is the DNC, Corp-controlled rhett o rick May 2015 #12
Agreed TM99 May 2015 #14
Typical Hillary billhicks76 May 2015 #15
Here Is the thing Robbins May 2015 #16
There are other media events that can be organized by lower profile Dems. KittyWampus May 2015 #17
But if a candidate does a debate that isn't one of DNC 6 marym625 May 2015 #22
I said "media event". Lots of media events can be organized that aren't "debates". KittyWampus May 2015 #25
The fact there are only 6 may work in our favor marym625 May 2015 #23
That would be delicious… only Hillary shows up to DNC debates. LOL KittyWampus May 2015 #26
yep. marym625 May 2015 #30
Actually six should be more than enough to determine a candidates view. If you have too still_one May 2015 #27
I agree that there can be too many. However, I believe Sen Sanders can make it clear how rhett o rick May 2015 #31
I have no doubt he can, and that there will be sufficient opportunity to do so, including what he still_one May 2015 #32

elleng

(130,860 posts)
1. The 'rival' and the 'adviser:'
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:59 PM
May 2015

Responding to the announcement on Twitter, Clinton suggested that she was on board with the DNC plan.

"While GOP debates the same failed policies, Democrats will debate how to help families get ahead. Looking forward to a real conversation," she said.

O'Malley's camp, however, took issue with the DNC's new exclusivity rule.

"If Governor O'Malley decides to run, we will expect a full, robust, and inclusive set of debates -- both nationally and in early primary and caucus states. This has been customary in previous primary seasons. In a year as critical as 2016, exclusivity does no one any favors," said Lis Smith, the governor's spokeswoman.


Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/democrats-presidential-debates_n_7214218.html

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
2. Not sure that this will matter.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:01 PM
May 2015

Bernie has 200,000 volunteers now. By the time that the debates come around, he will have a couple of million at least. For certain, his name will be a household word. His picture will hang in people's living rooms!
Let them try their low tactics. It's not going to help them overcome the overwhelming populism that Bernie has, and will get. This Bernie campaign will multiply like a virus.
And Bernie does not run negative campaigns. He will not do it this time either.
That will benefit him also.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Who schedules these debates? Can't other groups schedule debates and invite all the candidates
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:10 PM
May 2015

to be there? If so, I don't see how this matters.

Candidates who don't show up won't be gaining any points from voters.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. If any Dem candidates show up at non- DNC sanctioned debates,
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:15 PM
May 2015

they will be barred from participating in DNC sanctioned debates. This means there will be a total of 6 debates , period. In 2008 there were 20.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. Well, there is a solution to this. Candidates go to all debates scheduled if invited.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:22 PM
May 2015

If the DNC bars them for doing so, make it a huge issue in the campaign, and BOYCOTT the DNC debates.

Let this plan be known now, so the DNC loses its control over the debates.

The American people should not be prevented from hearing from candidates if there is an opportunity to do so.

I imagine the DNC isn't going to want the rest of the field announcing they will be boycotting those debates and telling the public why.

O'Malley has already expressed his opinion on this. Bernie is likely to comment and any others who enter the race.

It sounds as though they have already chosen a candidate, and they do not want to expose that candidate to any more public debates than they feel is necessary.

Which could lead one to believe they are trying to protect her.

It's likely to have the opposite effect. Now is the time to let them know, this will be a huge issue unless they, either allow all candidates to participate in their six debates regardless of other debates they many participate in, OR expand that number.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. I am with you on this. I think Democracy Now should have debates and maybe the BBC.
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:46 AM
May 2015

The DNC and Corp-Media can all go to hell.

-none

(1,884 posts)
29. The problem here is that most likely only the DNC sanctioned debates will be televised nation wide.
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:38 AM
May 2015

Any others will have a hard time getting any but local coverage.
Nice bow the corporatist DNC has on the debates.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
10. DU needs a group like that: Populist Reform of the Democratic Party!
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:31 AM
May 2015

Brilliant!

And I shall be one of the hosts!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
24. Post it. I don't have a problem with it as a host.
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:44 AM
May 2015

That group, while not about bashing Clinton in particular IS about fighting the powers of which she is clearly a major part.

And, the source is reputable.

I say go for it.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. Bought and paid for.
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:49 PM
May 2015

This election season is going to a brutal one.

Funny how the Democratic Party is doing exactly what the Republican Party is in order to control the debates and push their chosen corporate backed candidates.

And yet we are supposed to remember that really there is a difference always between the two parties.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. When we say "Democratic Party" there could be confusion. There is the DNC, Corp-controlled
Wed May 6, 2015, 12:48 AM
May 2015

Democratic Party machine that will get the big corporate bucks, and then there is the grassroots Democratic Party that will shun the big money candidate. Clinton can debate herself.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
14. Agreed
Wed May 6, 2015, 01:11 AM
May 2015

I would love to see all the other candidates force Clinton and the DNC to change this requirement.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
16. Here Is the thing
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:27 AM
May 2015

with 2016 the establishment of democratic party is acting like GOP

Republicans go with it's your turn with nomination to who they feel is next in Line.

Democrats have fight and discuss issues.

Look at the debates for 2008.There were several for 2000.

The DNC is trying to limit damage that can be done to Hillary in debates.If she is afaird of bernie sanders just imagine republicans.

I firmly believe inless O'Mallory,Chaffe,and Webb all formally get into race she won't take part in debates because she doesn't want a one on one debate with Bernie.Much less 6 of them.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
17. There are other media events that can be organized by lower profile Dems.
Wed May 6, 2015, 08:31 AM
May 2015

Got to think outside the box.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
25. I said "media event". Lots of media events can be organized that aren't "debates".
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:44 AM
May 2015

Democratic Candidate Barbecue, Coffee Klatch, Ice Cream Social, for instance.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
23. The fact there are only 6 may work in our favor
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

If O'Malley and Sanders can be invited to 6 debates outside the DNC that are national, then who needs the DNC? Screw it

still_one

(92,116 posts)
27. Actually six should be more than enough to determine a candidates view. If you have too
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:57 AM
May 2015

many I doubt it will shed new information, and they will lose viewers except for political junkies

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. I agree that there can be too many. However, I believe Sen Sanders can make it clear how
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

he differs from H. Clinton on the issues the more times they go over it.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
32. I have no doubt he can, and that there will be sufficient opportunity to do so, including what he
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:35 PM
May 2015

and the other candidates are doing now


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