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Sanders 'stunned' he's beating Clinton (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 OP
I bet Hillary is shocked too Pharaoh Sep 2015 #1
Good one! leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 #2
Maybe she wouldn't be if she'd check her e-mail once in a while... Jester Messiah Sep 2015 #3
Ohhhh... SoapBox Sep 2015 #4
lol 840high Sep 2015 #5
Okay, that was good. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #20
What is this email of which you speak? merrily Sep 2015 #29
She's A Surrogate For The Bush Family billhicks76 Sep 2015 #6
I wouldn't go so far as to call her a Bush Family surogate, but she admitted being a moderate. Bubzer Sep 2015 #12
There really is little difference in their views re our Foreign Policies. She is right on board sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #16
Oh I certainly dont trust her where money is concerned... Bubzer Sep 2015 #22
Regardless Of Their Views billhicks76 Sep 2015 #27
This is probably true. But then, Bernie is my candidate, not her. Bubzer Sep 2015 #32
Wrong billhicks76 Sep 2015 #25
You truly think she's Bush 2.0? I dont agree. Bubzer Sep 2015 #28
No billhicks76 Sep 2015 #30
Actually, let me take a step back. Bubzer Sep 2015 #33
even though I voted for the president twice AnAzulTexas Sep 2015 #14
Yes !!! billhicks76 Sep 2015 #26
Oh, good grief, Wolf Blitzer is SO clueless. Old Crow Sep 2015 #7
you ever think Bernie is just laughing to himself retrowire Sep 2015 #9
I do... Old Crow Sep 2015 #10
lmao me too. id say something along the lines of retrowire Sep 2015 #11
At least he was an excellent candidate on Jeopardy. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #13
OMG, I forgot about that! Old Crow Sep 2015 #15
A guy that stupid could only ever get a job on 24/7 news Scootaloo Sep 2015 #31
To do the job they are hired to do, it wouldn't help to be too smart. So Wolf is just perfect for sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #17
Good point. Old Crow Sep 2015 #18
Exactly, it is hard to keep remembering that 'they' are not interested in the same things sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #19
Should you ever wind up in SE Pennsylvania... Old Crow Sep 2015 #21
Get used to it Bernie Kenjie Sep 2015 #8
Yes, he will have to get used to it. The people are not going to settle this time. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #23
I'm not! BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #24

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. What is this email of which you speak?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:37 AM
Sep 2015

What do you mean "check" email? You mean, like with a check mark? Is that what you do after you wipe your server with a cloth?

Oh, you kids!

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
6. She's A Surrogate For The Bush Family
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:10 PM
Sep 2015

So why should it surprise anyone. Most of us are sick of their collusion and nothing changing. We are sick of whatever the establishment threatened Obama with to make him flip flop on issues such as NSA telecom immunity to hiring all lobbyists to regulatory positions...the exact opposite of what he promised he would do. Our system is rotten to the core and the Bidens and Clintons are doing nothing to change anything. They live in fear of the Republicans and then cash in.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
12. I wouldn't go so far as to call her a Bush Family surogate, but she admitted being a moderate.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015

Bush would never suggest automatic voter registration at the age of 18 , with optional opt-out... and she did. Credit where credit is due. It's a great idea...one I could see Bernie adopting.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. There really is little difference in their views re our Foreign Policies. She is right on board
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:04 PM
Sep 2015

with the neocons and seems to be trying very hard to impress THEM with how 'tough' she is when it comes to invading and wrecking other nations.

So on a few domestic issues there are some differences, but one can't pretend to be a Dem or a Repub without taking certain positions, so who knows where any of them stand on anything. When it comes to MONEY and WAR they are all on the same track.

Bernie otoh, is one of the few who actually stands up to them all and tells the people the truth and who is not for sale.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
22. Oh I certainly dont trust her where money is concerned...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:25 PM
Sep 2015

but she's nowhere near as bad as the worst president ever. That's a whole other level.
That said, Bernie is still my number one choice.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
27. Regardless Of Their Views
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:06 AM
Sep 2015

They collaborated and colluded. They protected each other preserving an unhealthy oligarchy.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
25. Wrong
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:02 AM
Sep 2015

She holds a very rare title of honorary Bush Family member. Study their connections and you will see she works for them. No wonder she is funded by the private prison industry.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
28. You truly think she's Bush 2.0? I dont agree.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:20 AM
Sep 2015

I certainly don't like the ties to private prisons, or her connections with big banks... I also don't like her lack of stance on the TPP and keystoneXL pipeline... but that doesn't make her equivalent to Bush Jr. I mean, really consider it... has Hillary sent thousands upon thousands of soldiers to their death in a desperate grab for wealth and glory? Bush has considerable blood on his hands. Hillary doesn't. That alone makes this an unreasonable equivalence. Add to that the utterly bumbling buffoonery that was Bush Jr... Hillary is far and away not a buffoon. She's smart. Very smart. She's not quite where I'd like to see her on the issues, but that still doesn't make her remotely close to Bush. You think she's Bush 2.0, but I just don't see it. If you want to share whatever links or articles you've discovered that support your stance, I'll look them over... but until then, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
33. Actually, let me take a step back.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:30 PM
Sep 2015

I might be confusing discussions or someone might have edited their comment.
I thought I saw someone say she was bush version 2.0, which I wholeheartedly disagree with... being in collusion with them, on the other hand, I neither agree nor disagree with... but only because I haven't looked into it.

AnAzulTexas

(108 posts)
14. even though I voted for the president twice
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:44 PM
Sep 2015

he was flip flopping on several things even before the first election took place

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
26. Yes !!!
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:05 AM
Sep 2015

Towards the end of the primary campaign after he and her met with the money men in Europe he did flip flip. He not only decided to not filibuster the Telecom Immunity Bill protecting spying on all Americans but he even decided to vote for it. That's when I knew a deal had been made.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
7. Oh, good grief, Wolf Blitzer is SO clueless.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:23 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie makes the statement, respectfully, that the public is sick and tired of the mainstream media's unwillingness to cover real issues and, by implication, is tired of its obsession with horserace, personality-based coverage.

Blitzer nods his head... and then goes on to ask question after question about Hillary, hoping to get Sanders to make disparaging remarks.

Blitzer, don't be such a dope. It's embarrassing to watch, truly.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
9. you ever think Bernie is just laughing to himself
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:42 PM
Sep 2015

as he watches the media pawns do exactly as he predicts?

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
10. I do...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

... sometimes I think I detect a trace of a smile on his face at moments like this.

Clearly patience and toleration are two of Bernie's strengths. Me? I'd probably come out with, "See?! You're doing it again! WTF is wrong with you?!" Yeah, I'm pretty sure I don't have the temperament to be a politician.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
11. lmao me too. id say something along the lines of
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sep 2015

"Ahhh HAAAA! See look at cha! hahaha, you gonna ask me about the issues yet? Hillary again? here's an answer for you, she's great! next question please."

then I'd fart on the interviewer or something because personally I don't care to be president, I'm just here to laugh.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
15. OMG, I forgot about that!
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:54 PM
Sep 2015

"Wolf? ... No."
"Wolf? ... Incorrect."
"Wolf? ... No."
"Wolf? ... Afraid not."

"Wolf, things didn't work out for you as well as you had hoped, I'm sure...."


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. To do the job they are hired to do, it wouldn't help to be too smart. So Wolf is just perfect for
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:06 PM
Sep 2015

the Corporate Media.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
18. Good point.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

He's a conduit to channel an agenda, and is fulfilling that role just fine.

I tend to think the same way about Debbie You-know-who. I often get all indignant and wonder, "Why haven't they gotten rid of her?" And then I catch myself and remember: Well, because she's doing exactly what they want her to do. She's fulfilling that role just fine.

Yuck. Things need to change.

Go, Bernie!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. Exactly, it is hard to keep remembering that 'they' are not interested in the same things
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:18 PM
Sep 2015

the People are interested in so they hire people who represent THEM. DWS is just perfect for the job. She takes the heat, they take the benefits, she will be rewarded, they all are, once they leave Congress.
.
Yes, things have to change. As Warren AND Bernie and now even Biden surprisingly, have said repeatedly 'the system is rigged'. It has been thoroughly corrupted by money.

Bernie I believe stated correctly, that Congress doesn't write legislation anymore, they merely rubber stamp what is given to them by their big donors.

See the The Dark Act eg. Over 90% of the American people WANT their food labeled. But clearly that is irrelevant now, because we are no longer a democracy, we are as both Biden and Bernie have said, an Oligarchy.

Which is why we do need a political revolution to change things. One person cannot do it.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
21. Should you ever wind up in SE Pennsylvania...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:25 PM
Sep 2015

... and decide to run for local office, you've got my vote.

I could not agree with you more.

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