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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:07 PM Sep 2015

Sanders fans constantly complaining about dearth of coverage while never turning on their TVs

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/642020891417817089

Is he right? I don't have a TV. I got rid of mine in the 80s.
I didn't want to pay to watch it. But since I have DSL I can
watch quite a bit. But he's getting shorted. Those people
are so unaware. I stopped watching Rachael last night
when I saw all she was going to talk about was Trump
and Faux news!
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Sanders fans constantly complaining about dearth of coverage while never turning on their TVs (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 OP
Is there any detailed statistical analysis of the amount of TV coverage given to each candidate? nxylas Sep 2015 #1
I forgot who did it, but yeah, there is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #6
One AA was stopped by the police artislife Sep 2015 #20
Excellent example. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25
He has been on the Sunday shows but...... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #2
One appearance does not a trend make dorkzilla Sep 2015 #3
NPR? National Propaganda Republicana? PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #12
I totally agree dorkzilla Sep 2015 #13
What Doonesbury reference? PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #14
I think you’re being coy but just in case dorkzilla Sep 2015 #16
Ah. I picked that up PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #17
Im pretty sure Doonesbury did it first dorkzilla Sep 2015 #18
:) PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #19
Unless you have a Nielsen box in your home, your TV watching has no effect on the ratings. nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #22
I leave MSNBC on most of the day. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #4
You got all that correct! SoapBox Sep 2015 #8
The slant is obvious to more people than they realize. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #24
Jake Jake Jake... Kenjie Sep 2015 #5
Crock. SoapBox Sep 2015 #7
The Seattle FOX affiliate had a nice little story...... Capt.Rocky300 Sep 2015 #9
Only Roku now Disabled15 Sep 2015 #10
I don’t know why I don’t do what you’ve done dorkzilla Sep 2015 #15
Free Speech TV is a free channel on Roku. totodeinhere Sep 2015 #21
Yes and RT is also free with Thom Hartmann Disabled15 Sep 2015 #27
The MSM covers Trump most of the time. Occasionally they cover a few of the others sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #11
I refuse to watch contrived corporate bullshit. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #23
Obviously, I have no choice but to take the word of the msm on this. merrily Sep 2015 #26
TV is just an ad olddots Sep 2015 #28

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
1. Is there any detailed statistical analysis of the amount of TV coverage given to each candidate?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:12 PM
Sep 2015

Tapper is basically saying "Look, Bernie is on TV right now. That proves there's no media blackout. And now...TRUMP!"

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. I forgot who did it, but yeah, there is.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

And even in the NYT's defensive reply to reports of their poor coverage of Sanders, they said they covered Trump, Hillary, and even Jeb more, and kinda lumped Bernie coverage in with 'all the rest' of the candidates. Cause Bernie and Pataki or Gilmore are just as newsworthy.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
20. One AA was stopped by the police
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:04 PM
Sep 2015

and wasn't beaten or killed and was told to "have a nice day" by the officer as he handed back his driver's license.

= No police brutality for African Americans.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
3. One appearance does not a trend make
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:15 PM
Sep 2015

I only watch old episodes of Poirot on my tv (on roku no less) but I do listen to the radio a lot, especially NPR. They hardly ever mention him.

MSNBC sucks and has for years. I refuse to watch it, lest they profit by a bump in ratings. They’ve gotten rid of all the progressives and basically neutered Rachael. I would have thought a woman with her perceived integrity would have quit instead.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
12. NPR? National Propaganda Republicana?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:21 PM
Sep 2015

It has not been the same since * fucked with it after Iraq invasion.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
13. I totally agree
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:25 PM
Sep 2015

I usually “accidentally” hear ATC when I’ve left the radio on after hearing AWESOME programming from my local NPR affiliate, WNYC. I could listen to Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate for hours and hours. ATC and ME, not so much.

Kudos for the Doonesbury reference

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
16. I think you’re being coy but just in case
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:35 PM
Sep 2015

the * representing W in the cartoons...but you knew that didn’t you?

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
17. Ah. I picked that up
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:40 PM
Sep 2015

Right here on DemocraticUnderground.com

You did not type unmentionable's name.

I guess my question is, did DU pick up the Doonesbury reference or vice versa?

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
18. Im pretty sure Doonesbury did it first
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:48 PM
Sep 2015

It was a device Gary Trudeau used for a long time. From wikipedia:

Later, personal symbols reflecting some aspect of their character came into use. For example, during the 1980s, character Ron Headrest served as a doppelgänger for Ronald Reagan and was depicted as a computer-generated artificial-intelligence, an image based on the television character Max Headroom. Members of the Bush family have been depicted as invisible. During his term as Vice President, George H. W. Bush was first depicted as completely invisible, his words emanating from a little "voice box" in the air. This was originally a reference to Bush's perceived low profile and his denials of knowledge of the Iran-Contra Affair. (In one strip, published March 20, 1988, the vice president almost materialized, but only made it to an outline before reverting to invisibility.[10])

George W. Bush was symbolized by a Stetson hat atop the same invisible point, because he was Governor of Texas prior to his presidency (Trudeau accused him of being "all hat and no cattle", reiterating the characterization of Bush by columnist Molly Ivins). The point became a giant asterisk (a la Roger Maris) following the 2000 presidential elections and the controversy over vote-counting. Later, President Bush's hat was changed to a Roman military helmet (again, atop an asterisk) representing imperialism. Towards the end of his first term, the helmet became battered, with the gilt work starting to come off and with clumps of bristles missing from the top. By late 2008, the helmet had been dented almost beyond recognition. No symbol for Barack Obama has appeared in the strip; the May 30, 2009, strip had Obama and an aide wondering what the reason for this might be (off panel).[11]

Other symbols include a waffle for the indecisive Bill Clinton (chosen by popular vote—the other possibility had been a flipping coin), an unexploded (but sometimes lit) bomb for the hot-tempered Newt Gingrich, a feather for the lightweight Dan Quayle and a giant groping hand for Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is addressed by other characters as "Herr Gröpenfuhrer", a reference to accusations of sexual assault against Schwarzenegger). Many less well-known politicians have also been represented as icons over the years, like a swastika for David Duke, but only for the purposes of a gag strip or two. Trudeau has made his use of icons something of an in joke to readers, where the first appearance of a new one is often a punchline in itself.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. I leave MSNBC on most of the day.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

And the slant is very obvious. Almost every host, almost every guest continues to push the party line, to talk as if it's a given that Hillary will either be the nominee, or that if she implodes, another DLC type candidate will swoop in to 'save' the party from the horror of winning the White House with a socialist. Even when Bernie takes the lead in the early primary states, the story is not about Bernie, but 'How this affects Hillary's campaign.' In one segment earlier today, every candidate mentioned was mentioned by name EXCEPT Bernie, who was simply referenced as 'Hillary's closest competitor' or somesuch. The mentions of him that do get through, if they're not outright dismissive 'of course he won't win's, are simply about his polling or the size of his allies for the most part. While at the same time, we're treated to Hillary policy statements reported live, referenced as 'major policy statements', or fawning reports about how she's adopted some policy - weeks or months after Bernie and O'Malley both.

And when the NYT pulls the same sort of crap, is the story 'NYT deliberately fails to mention presidential candidate'? No, it's 'Bernie supporters complain about NYT.' As if the real story is about how Sanders supporters are whiny children, not the partisan coverage of the race by media.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. The slant is obvious to more people than they realize.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:39 AM
Sep 2015

They are lagging behind in understanding the dynamics of this new phenomenon.

Kenjie

(122 posts)
5. Jake Jake Jake...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

I have a TV but I don't like turning it on these days. All Trump all the time. Nice of him to blame voters that the major networks have classically ignored though. We are constantly told who has a chance instead of the networks letting the voters decide that.

Last time President Obama shook up that little game with the help of the nation just coming off of eight years of Bush. This time we have a very unconventional candidate closing in on the one we are told has it all locked up...again. Sure different dynamics this time but with social media we can begin to get the message out without the networks. If recent history repeats itself, Jake may never have to worry about upstart campaigns lamenting the lack of coverage again.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. Crock.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:25 PM
Sep 2015

I've got that damned TV on a lot...we have DISH so get any number of channels.

All the limp media (ABC, CBS, NBC) have had nothing but wall to wall Rump...now it's wall to wall Biden and how that will affect Ms. Inevitable...nay a mention of Bernie.

When I glance at Free Speech TV, other than Thom, it's usually about the immigration crisis in Europe...Stephanie Miller is a Hill supporter so I gave up on her. MSNBC has obviously given new marching orders (or strong "code&quot , with the cancellations as of late (certainly silencing some on their channel). There is non-existent radio for Dems, Liberals or Proggressives.

There are still millions and millions that watch the local and Nightly News shows...if they don't see or hear positive about Bernie, then they aren't finding out what's going on.

Jake...you're full of it with this Tweet.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
9. The Seattle FOX affiliate had a nice little story......
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:09 PM
Sep 2015

about Bernie overtaking HRC in Iowa on this morning's news broadcast. Of course, they had their other crapola about Trump et. al, too.

Disabled15

(60 posts)
10. Only Roku now
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:34 PM
Sep 2015

Just finished my blood-sucking contract last month with Comcast and finally got rid of my cable tv for good. Wasn't really watching it much anyway since I got Roku a while ago. I did think I would miss msnbc because I liked Rachel, but the last few days I had cable, all she talked about was Trump. I don't miss that. For those with Roku, you can catch some MSNBC for free via Nowhere TV. With Bernie2016 and Bernie on YouTube (also via Roku) I get tons of Bernie

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
15. I don’t know why I don’t do what you’ve done
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:31 PM
Sep 2015

I have a roku attached to every telly and its all I watch. I re-signed my cable contract about 6 months ago but I don’t think I’ll renew when its up.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. The MSM covers Trump most of the time. Occasionally they cover a few of the others
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

but not with much depth re the ISSUES.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
23. I refuse to watch contrived corporate bullshit.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 06:34 AM
Sep 2015

That bullshit is nearly every word of what they call "News" on every channel.

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Obviously, I have no choice but to take the word of the msm on this.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 08:00 AM
Sep 2015

When I turned on my TV, it started all the way back in 2012 , with "of course Hillary will be the 2016 nominee, er, if she runs," which finally began morphing into The Donald, Fiorina, Carson, etc.

Very occasionally, interspersed with all that was "Senator Sanders, just how much stronger a candidate will your run make Hillary?" Then, he's getting huge crowds, but of course, he'll never get Hillary's the Democratic nomination. Or, "Tee hee, look at the cranky eccentric old Mayor of Burlington with the weird hair, trying to run for Preznut."

But, I am grateful that the NYT and Tapper exonerate themselves. But for their lamestreammediasplaining, I would have had no choice but to continue to believe my own lying eyes and ears and a few honest media critics.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
28. TV is just an ad
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

if you pay 150 bucks a month for it or nothing its an ad for something .Bernie is not an ad for anything so don't be surprised if you never see or hear him unless its an insult .

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