'These People Think Bernie Can Win in the South'

[sabrina 1]

[SoapBox]

1. Awesome.

And then just wait until Monday.

The man is a machine.

[99th_Monkey]

2. Winds Of Change Blow Through South As Democrats Are Winning Special Elections On GOP Turf

Bernie's poised to ride these winds IMO.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/10/winds-change-blow-south-democrats-winning-special-elections-gop-turf.html

[sabrina 1]

10. I just read your OP and that is great news! Maybe people just got tired

of listening to same old packaged rhetoric during campaigns and then nothing happening that benefits them later.

It takes a while for it to sink in that just repeating the same thing that doesn't work over and over again, makes no sense.

Thanks for the link and the OP.

[99th_Monkey]

24. You're most welcome Sabrina1.

Whatever happens down the road, this has all the ear-marks of an epic happening, one
that will leave a distinct & permanent mark in our collective memory banks, and I'm
loving it.

[sabrina 1]

26. Yes, it does. It's exciting, I was skeptical at first about how Bernie

was going to do it, I WANTED him to but it seemed like such a huge mountain to climb, how would people get to know him, the Media we knew would not help.

I have to say whoever is running his campaign is doing a fantastic job, but most of all, people are HEARING him, and he is getting so much free promotion from so many enthusiastic supporters, it's just amazing.

[grasswire]

31. It's remarkable to actually have the candidate we've been yearning for all these years.

Just remarkable.

[SusanaMontana41]

52. In 2008, I thought we had the candidate we've been yearning for.

Something tells me President Sanders will not disappoint.

[grasswire]

54. yes, this one is real nt

[merrily]

37. Exactly.

[RobertEarl]

3. Bernie will take NC

I said so here on DU a month ago. Like I said Obama would take NC in 2008. And lose it in 2012.

The people here are fed up with the same old same old.

[sabrina 1]

11. Yes, I remember the dire predictions for Obama re NC in 2008 and

elation after he won it. So you were right, let's hope you are right again this time.

[RobertEarl]

12. Sabrina...

I feel the Bern.

It is deep-rooted, almost spiritual, this feeling for change. It permeates the land.

C'mon, you know Bernie as well as anyone here, don't you feel it too?

[sabrina 1]

50. Lol, oh yes, I definitely feel the Bern, even more after watching Bernie

at Liberty University which was so incredible it actually made me cry.

[merrily]

39. IMO, the two biggest stunnersof 2008 were that Obama won Indiana

(Al From's state, btw) and that Alaska was starting to go Obama's way until McCain announced his "Thanks, but No Thanks" Vice Presidential pick.

[morningfog]

4. How many were in attendance there?

[appalachiablue]

6. About 9,100 people or more on a Sunday night! Berning Down the House!

Go North Carolina!

[sabrina 1]

7. Estimates I've seen say there were 9,000. The venue only holds about 5,500

as far as I know. But someone said he went to another room where people were gathered and spoke to them also. And I think people were outside.

I can't say for sure, but that is what I read on Social Media.

[appalachiablue]

5. K & R. There's every reason to believe Sanders will gain very substantial support in the South

the home of populism before Huey Long, and other areas including the Midwest and hard hit Post-industrial Rust Belt areas that have experienced economic hardship, deterioration of their standard of living and disillusionment with the establishment for decades!

Bernie's populist, progressive message, his platform, solutions and genuine concern for the lives of regular working people of all backgrounds are connecting with Americans all across the country. He's offering them plans, solutions and inspiration that's past due and not seen on the national level in decades. Enough is enough!

[sabrina 1]

8. Good to know, the 'conventional wisdom' from the 'experts' has been

that a Progressive Message won't sell in the South. Which is why we had to have Third Way Dems run. I never believed that. I think any candidate who touches on issues that people are wrestling with every day, can win, anywhere.

Thanks for the information, and I love that pic! AND Bernie's hair!

[appalachiablue]

15. Populism and progressivism have roots in the south and midwest, like Eugen Debs admired by

Bernie. It often takes the right vehicle to organize and mobilize it and that is Bernie now, Man of the People and one of a kind!
There's sometimes a deep distrust of corporations and banks that have ripped off small farmers, merchants and the common man in areas of the South and Midwest, goes back a long ways. Environmentalism, conservation and regard for nature are often prevalent too since many love, live close to and depend on the natural world.

*That is a great image of Bernie 2016- stunning blue, white and design. I'd love a T shirt, Yard Sign or car logo with it.
----
! Time for a well deserved celebration!

~ Bern Baby Bern, Dance with Bernie! Disco Inferno! ENCORE ~

[PatrickforO]

30. And wasn't he RIGHT ON tonight about issues that affect working people!

Because no one who works 40 hours a week should live in poverty, period. We should all have healthcare and a strong Social Security. We need to get rid of these disastrous 'free trade' deals and bring jobs back here - good ones, the kind you can raise a family on, the kind with good benefits and pensions.

Put these things in place and it will be a game changer for the American worker, because we can outperform, out produce anyone on the planet if given a chance.

Put these things in place and it will be a game changer for American families as well. Kids able to attend college, paid medical leave, good wages. Americans work harder than anyone else in the industrialized world, and we should reap some of the benefits.

Go Bernie!

[Betty Karlson]

32. Can Mr. Sanders flip a red state or two in the south?

Kentucky?
Georgia?

Because that is what Mrs. Clinton still has for her: an assumed ability to flip Missouri and/ or Arkansas. I'm interested to hear what you think of Mr. Sanders's ability to do likewise / better.

[Left Coast2020]

35. He still has a lot of time to build up his campaign there.

If Bernie flipped a red state or two, I'm sure Upchuck Todd will have his jaw still hanging open the following day. Either that or claim some kind of nonsense.

[Betty Karlson]

45. I'd love to see Chuck unhinge his jaw. n/t

[merrily]

42. The key word being "assumed." The memes/assumptions/attempts at self-fulfilling prophesies

that have been circulating about Hillary and her run for POTUS since 2012, if not earlier, haven't all been panning out.

[merrily]

40. Great post, ab. Thanks so much.

[Uncle Joe]

9. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, sabrina.

[JEB]

13. K&R

[totodeinhere]

14. He probably doesn't even have to win in the Sooth.

I'm not saying he can't win in the South but since this is a national race all he has to do in the South is stay close.

There are several factors in play here. First of all, because of the way that delegates are allocated the South will have proportionately fewer delegates than other regions because in 2012 most southern states were won by the Republican candidate. Those states will be penalized for that. However many states in other regions will be awarded with more delegates because President Obama won those states in 2012. And those states in other regions could be states where Bernie's campaign is stronger. If Bernie is going to lose any region the South is the best region to lose since it has fewer delegates. Again, I am not predicting that he will lose in the South. I am just laying out a possible scenario.

Secondly, it's all about expectations, not necessarily winning outright. Hillary is widely believed to be a shoe in in South Carolina. So if Bernie comes closer than expected in South Carolina it might be regarded as a moral victory and it might even add to his momentum. And because of proportional delegate allocation he won't get that many fewer delegates out of the state than Clinton does.

And finally, there is the bandwagon effect. This phenomenon is well known in politics. If the polls hold and Bernie sweeps Iowa and News Hampshire I can virtually guarantee you that Bernie's support in South Carolina will increase. If it increases enough to win outright we don't know, but as I already said a close second in that state would probably be enough to keep his momentum going as the campaign goes forward.

[sabrina 1]

58. Very interesting analysis. I see your point re if he has to lose a region

due to delegate count, the South would be the better choice to lose. However, the way this is going which I think has surprised even him, who knows what might happen? The people really are fed up to the teeth with the same old campaign rhetoric, same candidates election after a elected, things seem to be getting worse for ordinary people and the only DIFFERENT and SANE choice is someone most people never heard of before.

[totodeinhere]

60. I agree. I think Bernie will do better in the South than many including the Clinton

campaign expect.

[retrowire]

16. we North Carolinians do think he can win!

I was right in front against the rails! I shook his hand and my wife and I both got selfies with him and Jane.

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I made a Google Drive page for everyone to access freely to see all the pictures I took as well as video.

Check it out!

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0By_AwDVj_xg2QWZYZm1qcEpCSmM&usp=drive_web

[sabrina 1]

17. Wow, those are amazing shots, retrowire! You are both adorable! Imagine one day

in the future when you show people your photos with one of the best Presidents this country has had?

I have to go look at the rest of your photos, saw the ones you posted earlier today, which were great! Awesome job, you made us feel like we were there.

And I think with people like you and your lovely wife working for him, Bernie definitely can win in NC.

[retrowire]

18. thanks so much!

my brain is fried right now but I'll write a post all about my first political rally tomorrow.

[sabrina 1]

22. I can't wait to read your post. But I can imagine how you are feeling right now

After you get some rest I will look forward to it. You both are wonderful!

[artislife]

20. I love the photo

your wife took of you both driving to see Bernie. You are such bright shiny pennies. She is beautiful and the smile on your lips just capture a feeling of freedom and youth. Love it.

Thank you so much for going, supporting Bernie and sharing it all with us!

[Marty McGraw]

28. the youthful Energy!

Just wants to make one Smile.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. How cool!

Nice to see you.

[merrily]

41. Nice to see you, too, Warren. Pleasant surprise.

[SusanaMontana41]

55. That is so great!

What was the vibe?

[retrowire]

59. stupendous. :) n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

19. Obama won North Carolina.

[jeff47]

47. Well, the first time.

Hope and Change won.

Centrist Obama lost NC to Romney.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. Indeed. There's wisdom there.....

Same thing happened in Indiana.

Instead of adopting the MSM narrative that "Liberals are lazy" they should give them a reason to show up.

[Hulk]

21. Time to bring out the tee-shirt.

This is great. I'm hoping Biden will jump in, and I can get off the Clinton wagon for good. If Bernie can sustain this type of attention, maybe, just maybe he can be "the guy". Hell, who would have thought President Obama was going to be "the guy" at this time in 2007?

[sabrina 1]

25. Well, against all the odds as it seemed at the time, I did think he could do it. I convinced

my FIL who was a Hillary fan to vote for Obama. But like now, of course I had doubts sometimes, it seemed such an impossible task, and airc Hillary was just assumed to be the winner.

It just goes to show that there are no certainties in politics and mostly, a Progressive Message sells despite all we've been told to the contrary.

[merrily]

43. I did. Well, by Thanksgiving, anyway.

I felt that I had to decide early to whom to start donating because, as EMILY's List's acronym taught us....

Early

Money

Is

Like

Yeast (It makes the dough rise.)

[aspirant]

23. I know you are a social media guru,

but this Sanders/West combo could seal the AA deal. Allow them a little time to refine their unified message and then sit back and watch the beauty of Love.

If we can awaken the South and conservative North, the House and Senate are ours with huge numbers.

[sabrina 1]

49. I agree. And I also agree that we can elect some great Dems who are

not Third Way/DLC along with Bernie who normally might not be supported by the party. This is the PEOPLE'S election.

[bbgrunt]

27. this is so great! k and r!

[SoapBox]

29. I'm as mad as HELL...and I'm not gonna take this anymore!

http://m.

And this is why I think that Bernie will win.

[Left Coast2020]

33. Incredible what this man and his campaign are doing.

I say WOW! !

[bernmobile2016]

34. He will win the ENTIRE South

I am a true Southern Christian Conservative who is voting for the Bernster. I've donated hundreds to his campaign already and I donate every paycheck (his 3rd qtr fund raising numbers are gonna be INSANE!) If a conservative such as me can cross over and vote for Bernie, then many more can and will!

[merrily]

44. Welcome to DU, Southern Christian Conservative.

(What Are "Things I Never Thought I'd Never Be Posting," Alex?)

[sabrina 1]

53. Welcome to DU bernmobile. What made you decide to support Bernie if you

don't mind telling us?

[bernmobile2016]

62. Not at all..

He's humble.

He doesn't talk down to people

He admits his flaws and he is not perfect

He is someone just listening to you can tell he isn't full of himself through arrogance or run away ego

He understands that this country needs a radical change NOW as the current "Reaganomics" has destroyed the middle class

He believes in HELPING people get education and employment who SEEK TO BETTER THEMSELVES AND WHO WANT TO BE A
PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND INDEPENDENT.

But the biggest reason is due to so much hate and intolerance being spewed from the Right.

[Barky Bark]

61. Welcome to Team Bernie!

[merrily]

38. I am thrilled that the South is hearing Bernie's message.

Same for the East and the West and the North.

Go, Bernie.

[Enthusiast]

46. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[L0oniX]

51. K & R

[MrMickeysMom]

56. This is the way the South may be able to rise again...

… because we are in this mess altogether. There are plenty of people thirsty for understanding his message.

K&R!

[Babel_17]

57. Sanders will reclaim for us the youth vote, and much of the disaffected vote

2014 was a disaster, let's not mince words, and we need to get to the polls the new types of voters who've turned out for President Obama. Especially the way they came out in 2008.

With the youth vote getting energized, and a large numbers of the disaffected, we can take back power at the local, and national, level. I'm sorry HRC supporters, but Secretary Clinton is not showing an ability to escape being labeled as a same old/same old establishment politician. And we need the excitement the Sanders campaign is generating to get out the non-voters.