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Warning (Original Post) Robbins Sep 2015 OP
There is literally NOTHING that could persuade me to support Hillary, so I don't care much djean111 Sep 2015 #1
I am with you Robbins Sep 2015 #3
+100 marym625 Sep 2015 #4
You and me both, marym! mak3cats Sep 2015 #5
OMFG! marym625 Sep 2015 #9
Just goes to show you... mak3cats Sep 2015 #10
my dad used say.. marym625 Sep 2015 #17
Your Dad Was Indeed An Optimistic Thinker left on green only Sep 2015 #27
Good for you marym625 Sep 2015 #28
Overflowing buckets. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #18
I've been verbally attacked more than once for having no children. Paka Sep 2015 #19
Absolutely exclusively from women... mak3cats Sep 2015 #21
I guess I just had the good foresight... Paka Sep 2015 #23
+100 from me too. SoapBox Sep 2015 #6
Agree NFW will I vote for a DINO YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #12
Not worried marym625 Sep 2015 #2
Gee, up one day, down the next. We can roll with it. senz Sep 2015 #7
They have already proven me right Robbins Sep 2015 #8
The last PPP Iowa poll was issued August 10th, mak3cats Sep 2015 #11
That won't be mentioned Robbins Sep 2015 #13
Exactly. Why people hold any particular poll to be gospel is beyond me. This far..... n8dogg83 Sep 2015 #14
So, there is crowing because she LOST 6 points? djean111 Sep 2015 #15
So now Bernie is down 21% aspirant Sep 2015 #16
Since there is no question who I will be voting for, Paka Sep 2015 #20
This is a marathon, not a sprint ... Trajan Sep 2015 #22
I'd like to offer a pictoral example Aerows Sep 2015 #24
Jon Snow Aerows Sep 2015 #25
Feel the Bern Aerows Sep 2015 #26
I don't go there LiberalElite Sep 2015 #29
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. There is literally NOTHING that could persuade me to support Hillary, so I don't care much
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:53 AM
Sep 2015

about polls and endorsements. Polls go up and down. I know who I am voting for, and who I am not going to vote for. So I'm good. Also, I don't click on stuff like that, there is no point in doing that.
If she buys the nomination, I will be quitting DU and concentrating on starting the blog I always wanted to start, and figuring out how to save my 20 year old grandson from having to go kill people or be killed himself.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. I am with you
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:03 PM
Sep 2015

If she wins nomination I will be leaving DU and staying home on election day.

I might return if she loses to republican as i suspect she would if she wins nomination.

I just know the hilary supporters once they hear will be braging about her "Comeback"

PPP is genraly good in GE but flawed in primarys.This happened in past.

I refuse to concede she will win nomination.that's giving up.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. +100
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:03 PM
Sep 2015

The current state of the world has proved to me that I made the right decision to not bring children into this world

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
5. You and me both, marym!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:06 PM
Sep 2015

Even if I didn't fulfill my "manifest destiny" as a woman. (I heard that once - no lie.)

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
27. Your Dad Was Indeed An Optimistic Thinker
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:45 AM
Sep 2015

I made the decision never to pollute our tiny planet with any more of my species when I was 14yo, way back at the onset of the Vietnam war. Imagine my disappointment at that age when I was told that I was too young to have a vasectomy. Ah yes, but where there is a will, there is a way.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
19. I've been verbally attacked more than once for having no children.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:07 PM
Sep 2015

The worst was by a war-mongering Israeli backpacker in Thailand. I did put her in her place, but it gets very tiresome.

Since I never married, the subject never came up with a potential father. The flack comes exclusively from women.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
21. Absolutely exclusively from women...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:42 PM
Sep 2015

...but I have had several relationships end because of my "no children" clause. At the beginning, I always said, "I don't have any desire to have kids." I would hear, "That's OK." Several months later (or a couple of years, in one case), the relationship would end. The reason? "I thought if you had the right man you would change your mind."

(More like if I had the right mind, I would change my man. Ended up working out that way for me.)

Paka

(2,760 posts)
23. I guess I just had the good foresight...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

to pick quys where the issue never came up.

I had one good friend who didn't want children and when he married, his wife was fine with it. After several years, she secretly stopped her birth control and surprise?? turned up pregnant. She was sure he would come around. Instead, he filed for divorce.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
12. Agree NFW will I vote for a DINO
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:53 PM
Sep 2015

I will leave the Democratic Party after 30+ years as a member, if she is the nominee I will vote but not for her.

I really don't care much about polls but I do know that I do not know a single living breathing person who will vote for her

The polls may say she can beat the Donald but I doubt it. She does not now nor will she inspire the base to even turn out to vote for her. Turn out to vote Against her yes but for her not so much.




marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. Not worried
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:01 PM
Sep 2015

When you get down to it, there's still a fairly large percentage of people who don't know about Bernie Sanders. And he still has a lower "unfavorable" rating than Clinton.

Just a matter of time before Sanders leads everywhere.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
7. Gee, up one day, down the next. We can roll with it.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:26 PM
Sep 2015

because Bernie is in it for the people. So his win is everyone's win (except the oligarchs).

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
8. They have already proven me right
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:32 PM
Sep 2015

I put another hilary supporter on my ignore list.

On social safety net,issues of war,trade unions and economy these are personal to me.There is only one choice-bernie.Hilary is
terrable on all of these.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
11. The last PPP Iowa poll was issued August 10th,
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:52 PM
Sep 2015

and it showed HRC up by 27 points. So the movement is in the right direction.

n8dogg83

(248 posts)
14. Exactly. Why people hold any particular poll to be gospel is beyond me. This far.....
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:26 PM
Sep 2015

from an election any one poll is essentially meaningless, reflecting name recognition more than anything else (as even Nate Silver will attest to). If people want to use polls as an indicator, look at the trends of polls over time. The important part imo is that the trend of the polls are generally favorable to Bernie and show he is slowly but steadily gaining ground.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
15. So, there is crowing because she LOST 6 points?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:33 PM
Sep 2015

Do they know we have access to The Internets? And memories?

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
16. So now Bernie is down 21%
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:04 PM
Sep 2015

when he was leading in 2 previous polls. Who in their right mind believes this stuff?

What were the pollsters to do when Bernie draws 25,000 plus at west coast events? Now that his 3000 to 5000 crowds at smaller events aren't getting national attention these pollsters are free to pull out everything in their bag of tricks.

Until polls are verifiable the crowd sizes should be the determining factor

Paka

(2,760 posts)
20. Since there is no question who I will be voting for,
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:14 PM
Sep 2015

it doesn't really matter what the polls say. Most certainly not at this early stage. At this point I see no reason to think that I won't have the opportunity to vote twice for Bernie next year. First in the primary and then in the general. If HRC is the nominee, I will most likely have to leave the democratic party. The standard bearer of my party must support the same values that are important to me, and quite simply, she does not.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
22. This is a marathon, not a sprint ...
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:11 PM
Sep 2015

The day to day doesn't matter as much as the long haul ...

Bernie's got this ....

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