Andrea Mitchell just told a whopper about Bernie:

[merrily]

Wrapping up a story about Hillary's statement on guns, Mitchell gratuitously added, "Bernie Sanders, of course, long supported by the NRA."

The NRA has long rated Bernie either F or D-. That is NOT support.

Please, people, let Mitchell and MSNBC know how you feel.

[djean111]

1. That does seem to be the MEME du week, doesn't it?

Flurry of OPs here, Clinton surrogate there - Bernie must be doing really well!
Not to mention that a cheap political shot during a tragedy is a Clinton trademark, I think.

[Maedhros]

23. Since the campaign began, whenever there has been a shooting tragedy

the Clinton camp has been quick to push the "Bernie is a Gun Nut" lie.

It's what they do.

[JDPriestly]

42. And it is not true! It is false. It is a total lie!

Here is his record:

https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/37/guns

He voted for most of the gun legislation. He voted against the Brady Bill.

Sanders voted for the Manchin-Toomey amendment in 2013, however, which would have expanded background checks, as well as for separate amendments that would have banned assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

Sanders has staunchly defended his record. He maintains that his objections to the Brady Bill, for example, were due to the inclusion of a mandatory waiting period for gun purchases, rather than the background checks themselves, and boasts of his D-minus ranking from the National Rifle Association.

As a senator from a rural state with lax gun laws, Sanders has argued that he is uniquely positioned to bridge the divide between gun control advocates and their opponents -- a sentiment he reiterated on MSNBC on Thursday.

“What we need, Chris, as a nation, is to get beyond the shouting,” Sanders said. “Some people want to ban every gun in America and some people believe in nothing at all. I think the vast majority of the American people, as the president indicated, including gun owners -- and I know that's true here in Vermont -- want sensible gun control legislation and they also believe that we should have more access to mental health facilities and counselors than we presently do.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gun-control_56105dade4b0af3706e1181f

Ir should be easier for people involved in explosive situations, marital disputes, etc. to get restraining orders and to get enforcement of those orders. That would not help in the mass shootings, but it would help in other situations.

When I read some of the posts on DU, a liberal site, and feel the anger expressed in them, I think we have a problem that goes way beyond guns. So Bernie's emphasis on mental health is well taken.

There are and have been DUers whose posts indicated in my opinion that they have serious apparently untreated mental health issues. We all have bad days. But to be constantly on edge and on the verge of violence or screaming suggests emotional instability, and that is something we can do something about.

Guns are inanimate objects.

[arcane1]

59. Edit: never mind

I misread your post

[merrily]

91. I stumbled initially, too. Sarcasm on the net can be a hoot.

[merrily]

89. What about Pres. Obama saying we have to become one issue voters? Something like "Even

if the person is great on everything else...." That was the end of last week, then Monday Hillary is giving her statement about guns.

[djean111]

106. As if any candidate besides Bernie, for me, is great.

Hillary - war, fracking, TPP, cluster bombs, H-1B visas.

Stop supporting a politician who is great, for me, on all issues but one (and I understand Bernie's vote there, sorry) - and start supporting a politician with a whole list of negatives?

Oh, and war = guns. Guns and bombs. Guns on steroids. FFS, who is kidding who here? Does the DNC really think we are that biddable? Damn. The bullshit is starting early. But - Obama does not get to tell me any damn thing about who to vote for.

[tecelote]

139. +1

Hillary is a hawk - if I had one issue, this would be it. Bernie is the only one to take on the MIC. Continuous war is a sin. The money we spend on killing people could be put to much better use.

But, fracking, TPP, cluster bombs, H-1B visas. Agreed. There are a lot more reasons.

[Roy Rolling]

71. Colbert said it best

About Sanders slams "...why won't you take that as the insult its meant to be?"

There's a million responses from "the NRA in 1990 wasn't the right-wing extremists they are 25 years later in 2015", to "even a broken clock is right twice a day".

But why bother to respond? For all the shit-stirring nobody gives a rat's ass. Progressives aren't so stupid that such a smear will weaken their Sanders support, and I guarantee no conservatives will abandon their support for Sanders because the NRA supported him once in 1990.

So sit back and relax and watch the show. If this reaches critical mass it will be a surprisingly favorable for Sanders, when the feeble attempt to smear him blows up in their face. If you'll pardon the metaphor.

[merrily]

90. "...why won't you take that as the insult its meant to be?" Very apt. Thank you.

[sabrina 1]

72. Yep, talking point. Doesn't matter if the lie, that type of person just flings poo, gets paid

by all that Corporate money, and whatever sticks, sticks.

People of no character, no integrity.

People like DAVID BROCK!!

Now we have to make sure that this is forwarded around Social Media so that Greenspan's Wife's lie will die as quick a death as Brock's garbage.

Maybe we should donate to Bernie's campaign every time they lie about him. That not only helps fund his campaign, it highlights the LIES.

[billhicks76]

78. Another Hillary Tool

And Hillary is just a tool of Bush Sr's. Don't forget Andrea is married to Alan Greenspan.

[merrily]

92. They once fired Maria Shriver over potentials conflicts, but hired Andrea despite hers.

President's Working Group on Financial Markets, November 1999:

Lawrence Summers, Treasury
Alan Greenspan, Fed
Arthur Levitt, SEC
William J Rainer, CFTC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000

[Laffy Kat]

101. Not only that, AM needs to retire, period.

She may have had "it" at one time, yet no longer. She stumbles over words constantly and gets that deer-in-the-headlights look at least once per show. I find her difficult to follow to the point of distraction.

[merrily]

102. It's not only her show. They have her on other MSNBC shows and Meet the Press, as though she were

some kind of guru, much as they used to do with Buchanan.

[Laffy Kat]

115. I know. It boggles the mind. nt

[merrily]

100. Please see Reply 89

[retrowire]

2. ugh, wtf?! n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. Andrea has allergies.

To truth, fact, economics, banking scandals.

[daleanime]

6. Thinking?

We have to see if she breaks out in hives during the election season.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. Oh no. She thinks

that she and her hubby are the best.

[daleanime]

10. No, I think that qualifies as a belief....

since that's no supporting evidence.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. I believe I will think about that.

[cui bono]

80. I think I believe you.

[merrily]

99. You are all very clever.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

114. You think?

[merrily]

126. No way of knowing with total certainty, but it's certainly what I believe.

I am entitled to my opinion--and I am unanimous in that.

[ish of the hammer]

177. thanks for the memory!

[merrily]

178. You're very welcome.

[Dustlawyer]

82. She got a huge conflict of interest, she and her husband have been going to all of the

New York and D.C. socialite parties and are friends with all of the Plutocrats. Additionally, it gives her access to land all of the big interviews. She wanted to be the next Barbara Walters, but lacks the panache to pull it off. I give her some credit, she is not stupid, just corrupted.

So sick of these self-interested elites selling us all out. She perhaps never knew how a journalist is supposed to do their job, but no, she just doesn't care. Just an empty dress!

[merrily]

103. Please see also, replies 92 and 98.

BTW, I've wondered: How badly does dust need an attorney?

[merrily]

93. .

[bkkyosemite]

4. I posted on her FB page

to get her facts straight that Bernie Sanders is not with the NRA.

[merrily]

94. Good job.

[stillwaiting]

5. There is NO way that Andrea doesn't know the truth about Bernie's very low NRA ratings.

She's such a mockingbird.

[merrily]

95. At NBC and MSNBC, they treat her like an intellectual heavyweight. Everything's relative, I guess.

(pun not initially intended, but I like it.)

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. She's just pissed off Bernie Sanders handed her husband,

Alan Greenspan, his ass during a hearing.

She can bite me.

[Wellstone ruled]

31. You nailed it!!

Through the years of trying to follow Mrs.Greenspan,if anyone writes,or verbally responds anything that questions her talents or abilities,your going to get a negative or outright lie about that person. Remember this,Mr.and Mrs.Greenspan are Ayan Rand acolytes. And the rest of their little charade is just that. They are on the A list in D.C. and that is were it is at.

[d_legendary1]

41. She's married to Alan Greenspan?

The guy who was shocked that there was gambling going on in Wall Street? That guy?!?!

Could explain why she says the things that she says.

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. One and the same!

Yes indeed! Andrea Mitchell is married to Greenspan. Expect NOTHING favorable from her when Bernie Sanders is the subject. He really should avoid her show completely. She'll do him no favors.

[swilton]

174. Classic takedown

[dreamnightwind]

151. And hubby famously called Bill Clinton "the best Republican President we've ever had"

He didnt mean that as an insult, either. So we know where Andrea's allegiance lies, and it sure isn't with Bernie.

[d_legendary1]

175. He's not alone on that assesment

My old man is of the same thought process. He "ended" welfare as we know it, passed NAFTA, the omnibus crime bill, the empowerment zones, and Gramm, Leach, Bliley.

The only reason he was the best "Republican" was due to the fact that everyone had a job at that point.

[MissDeeds]

58. That's it exactly

That was an epic take down!

[merrily]

96. Good point. Please see Reply 92. But, I think some coordinated efforts may be involved as well.

[in_cog_ni_to]

105. I wouldn't doubt that at all!

Talk about conflict of interest! There's zero doubt the Clintons and Greenspans are well acquainted - if not friends. If our MSM was ethical, Andrea would be fired or, at the very least, banned from covering the election since Hillary is a candidate. We both know that will never happen since our Corporate-owned MSM hasn't been ethical since the end of the Fairness Doctrine and the dawn of FAUX news. I'm sure MSNBC knows exactly what they're doing, as ordered by their owners - Comcast.

I found this enlightening
http://www.rimaregas.com/2015/05/the-clinton-greenspan-connection-the-case-against-dynasties-on-blog42/

[jalan48]

9. When Mrs. Greenspan speaks the corporate media listens.

[JDPriestly]

46. And that is about it. That's her audience.

I don't like her. She is one of the reasons I don't subscribe to cable.

[merrily]

104. They listen to her, even though they don't need to: They write her scripts.

[jalan48]

129. LOL

[SoapBox]

11. Ick...

Can't stand her.

And this is just a blatant lie.

[marym625]

12. K&R!

Will do!

Man, I'm so fucking tired of corporate media and the bullshit excuses for journalists

[merrily]

108. Ever read Chuck Toad's wiki?

If I were more clever, I would like to make a board game out of how he got a big job at a big network with his credentials and his skills.

[marym625]

142. no, but I will now

Thank you for the information. Now I am really curious

[merrily]

144. Think about all the well-qualified, sharp, dynamic people who would kill to have a job

on MSNBC, let alone host MTP. Then read his wiki. The juxtaposition is a real head scratcher.

[marym625]

146. EESH!

Honestly, I'm not a fan of having to prove yourself by graduating from college. I know many incredibly intelligent, well read, well informed, self educated people.

However, just watching and listening to him shows that journalism is not his strong suit. Maybe he should get on the show and play his French horn instead of playing with his instrument. Heehee.

[merrily]

152. I don't care if he went to college, but exactly what in his wiki did qualify him for his first

TV position?

What made someone say to himself or herself, "Thousands of people want this job, but I'm hiring this guy for it"?

[Triana]

13. @mitchellreports on twitter.

Ask her to CORRECT her statement!

[merrily]

109. Nice!

[NoMoreRepugs]

14. What a tool

in addition to being a shill for the MIC she took her shot at Mr Sanders for his ripping her hubby a new one when he appeared before Congress all those many times

[appalachiablue]

16. Thom Hartmann just mentioned you & your post. He set the record straight, so somebody

inform Andrea. (Good luck). Way to go!

[geardaddy]

18. I heard that too!

WTG Merrily!

[Marty McGraw]

33. In Depth

with Thom Hartmann JIC

http://www.c-span.org/video/?326443-1/depth-thom-hartmann

[appalachiablue]

35. great

[Marty McGraw]

47. I really need

to renew my podcast subscription to his outstanding show. Been going through withdrawls for several months now

[Marty McGraw]

183. Thank you

For giving me the Idea for a well deserved SigLine AppaBlue!

[KoKo]

37. Bookmarking....Thx for heads up on C-Span interview with Thom Hartmann

[Ed Suspicious]

107. I just spent three hours with an absolutely brilliant man thanks to your link and to C-span.

Thank you for posting this. What a thoughtful, intelligent guy.

[senz]

135. Makes me happy to read that. Been a Hartmann fan for at least 10 years.

I subscribe to his podcast and listen to it nearly every day when doing things around the house. I feel like I know him. His show introduced me to Bernie -- before Bernie "got very busy," Thom had him on once a week, "Brunch with Bernie."

Glad you like him, too!

[Marty McGraw]

150. Air America was most of what kept me

Going During the Reign of DimSon. Such wonderful Talent Even with the local cast in between. Thom has & always still is the best of the best and we are blessed to have the means of which to listen to his thoughtful and inclusive broadcasts.

[Marty McGraw]

149. Ha! That's 3 hrs. ahead of me

Trying to find a good time to watch it. And now, with your good recommendation, I'm anxious even that much more! Thanks for the Insight!

[Marty McGraw]

182. Finally

I just got through the whole show. You were right! Absolutely a Brilliant piece. I can not fathom anyone taking issue on anything this wonderful human being talks about. Such a true humanitarian as well. This is one I will definitely be trying to hand around to anybody who is willing to give it a look (That, though can sometimes be extraordinarily Difficult - have to get clever with it somehow) Thank you for seeing it this way as well Ed. Good to know there are more of us around.

[JDPriestly]

53. Great idea about a debate on progressive media.

We should petition the DNC about that. They could make an exception for that purpose.

[merrily]

112. Nice to hear! Thank you.

[KoKo]

45. Kudo's to Merrily! Glad Thom picked up on it...

[merrily]

113. Thank you, Koko.

[merrily]

111. Thanks! He mentioned another thread of mine about Bernie, too.

I'm really glad. I just wish I had been online more earlier, so I could have put more info on the thread. Oh, well. I'm sure he knows anything I know and more anyway.

Thanks for letting me know, though, AB.

[senz]

138. It's very cool, Merrily. Congrats!

Lately Thom mentions DU fairly often. This must be where the action is.

[AlbertCat]

17. I just asked why she lied and if she's gonna correct on FB

her "Andria Mitchell Reports" page.... in a post about Hillary's SNL cameo

https://www.facebook.com/AndreaMitchellMSNBC?fref=ts


and copied and pasted it in here as well.

http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell

[MissDeeds]

19. Yep

Brian Williams lost his job for lying. Hope everyone emails MSNBC and lets them know she better offer and on screen correction asap.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

21. I laid the wood to her.

[elleng]

74. Tried. At what address?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

75. msnbc

http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell

[merrily]

131. Way to go, Elmer! Thanks.

[merrily]

116. And he fibbed only about his own experiences. AM is saying things that will affect the world.

[zeemike]

20. We will see a lot more of this dirty shit as it goes along

And the more popular Bernie gets the more lies we will see.

[Major Hogwash]

88. Yeah, I agree.

This election is going to be a full out assault against Democrats.

[merrily]

118. SOP for MSM Remember the run up to the Iraq War?

[zeemike]

122. Yep, the most disgusting display of jingoism I have ever seen.

In what is laughingly called journalism.

[LiberalLovinLug]

22. Of course that can't hurt with a few of the crossovers

True Berners know his positions.

If a few white trash red necks drop a few more votes for him 'cause they heard somewheres through the grapevine that Bernie Sanders wasn't goin to come take their guns away like all them other Democrats, I'm not going to be the one to correct their thinking. So when they add that to that he also will go after those rich bastards on Wall Street, and pay for their childs college for them, and accounting for his long time holding onto his principles, that just might be the final straw. And all Dems are all "socialists" anyways. Fox and friends everywhere have already watered down and abused that word so much it doesn't have the bite it once did.

[merrily]

119. I see what you are saying,

but Bernie is not going to win the Democratic primary because of Republican cross overs or true Berners as of today. Many Democrats are still making up their minds and, only last week, Obama said we had to become one issue voters, no matter how great a candidate is on every other issue.

[senz]

143. Exactly.

[Art_from_Ark]

184. Did Obama really say that?

I guess my mom's neighbors will be glad to hear that, since they always vote Republican just because of the abortion controversy.

[merrily]

185. I had a heart to heart with a fundy over the abortion issue when Palin was running.

I told her I thought Republican politicians had been using the religious community poorly on that issue for years, given that it is Supreme Court decision that elected officials can really do nothing about--and in fact have not done much about since 1973, when Roe was decided. Meanwhile, there are a whole range of "Sermon on the Mount" issues that politicians CAN do something about. However, Republicans oppose those.

Yes, Obama really did say that, but I am not sure what making gun policy your one issue has to do with abortion. Maybe it's because I have not had my second cup of coffee yet, even though I have been awake for a long time

[Art_from_Ark]

186. Obama may have said that in the context of gun policy,

but it sounds as if he's condoning the general idea of "one-issue voting".

[merrily]

187. Not condoning one issue voting in general, urging that we become one issue voters on gun policy.

He was not specific as to which gun policies, though.

More about this on this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128059170

[Art_from_Ark]

188. OK, thanks for the clarification.

[SpankMe]

24. Mike Huckabee, of course, long supported by the gay community. n/t

[merrily]

120. LOL!

(I expect that you will be seeing a lot of that particular smilie. You may want to pick a safe word.)

[Uncle Joe]

25. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, merrily.

[merrily]

121. My pleasure, Uncle Joe.

[mmonk]

26. She works for the media. They are not in the business of truth.

Their god is money ever since deregulation ended the Cronkites and Murrows of America's past.

[merrily]

124. BOOM. Don't know about Murrow, but Cronkite got his start in a newsroom of

print journalism, ala Woodward and Bernstein. Many of today's broadcast "journalists" get their start reading a teleprompter on camera.

[libodem]

27. We need a bird smile

[merrily]

134. At least one DUer has a bird as an avatar. Maybe you could "copy image?"

[libodem]

148. I suppose I don't really need

To flip anybody off.

[merrily]

153. Ah, that kind of bird.

?1292867547

[libodem]

163. LOLOLOL

[merrily]

164. I tried to find the emote that shows a little smilie waving in a friendly way, then

giving the finger, but Mr. Google was very unyielding this morning.

[libodem]

165. Some stuff

Just deserves the finger and a big fu. Thanks for looking. You rock, sistah.

[merrily]

166. Thank you and back at you. We all rock!

[fredamae]

29. Alan Greenspans Wife-Whaddya Expect ;) n/t

[libodem]

30. Everyone should concentrate on this

Common enemy:

[img][/img]

[Moostache]

38. $803 per corpse...not even enough to pay for a funeral.

As a nation, we have sunk into the level of low-level mob enforcers - we say nothing, pretend to see nothing and actually DON'T know anything that isn't about making, taking or getting money.

The only thing I can warn the rest of the world about is this - don't think this is a good thing for any of you...if the wrong elements of this failed banana republic ever get total control of the nuclear arsenal, it won't be so damn funny any longer...

[libodem]

63. Yep

[iandhr]

32. When he ran for congress

He ran against a Republican who supported A waiting period for fun perches. Bernie opposed the law and he won his first election to congress with the support of the NRA. That is a fact. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-nra-helped-put-bernie-sanders-in-congress/2015/07/19/ed1be26c-2bfe-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

[jeff47]

43. "Support" not including anything like money

advertisements, mailers, canvassers, or anything at all said about Sanders.

[questionseverything]

51. and since then the nra has given him a d-

mitchell took support for one race from 25 years ago and tries to make it todays news

journalism integrity on the tv is dead

please keep this line of attack up,it will keep opening eyes

[merrily]

125. F or D-

[merrily]

123. That is not long time support by the NRA, which has long rated Sanders D- to F consistently.

Her comment was false, both expressly and by omission. That, too, is a fact.

[Cleita]

34. What a surprise!

Andrea Mitchell has repeatedly shown her right wing bias and made up facts on the air. Anyone who thinks she's has Democratic leanings or tells the truth all the time is misinformed. I refused to watch her a long time ago. Maybe once she was a decent journalist, but she joined the selective facts and out and out lies brigade a long time ago.

[Moostache]

36. I already stopped watching 90% of their programming...looks like Rachel may be DVR only soon too.

That kind of blatant untruth from a so-called journalist is unforgivable.

Isn't Mitchell an avowed right-winger anyway? (Or is that supposedly just her husband?)

[glinda]

84. Rachael was basically playing down Bernie tonight by

Poo pooing his turnout numbers by his home State. Talked up HRC a lot. She is showing her observation shortcomings now.

[merrily]

127. MSNBC is establishment TV. MSNBC is doing the DNC's work.

If Republicans win in 2016, MSNBC will be doing the RNC's work, as it did during Dimson's administration. It seems to be gearing up for exactly that.

Rachel is a dutiful employee of MSNBC or she would be gone, like Olberman, Cenk and Schultz.

[Bohunk68]

156. Exactly.

I used to be a faithful watcher of her. As a gay man, I liked that she was out there about herself. I liked the way she reported. What I have noticed is a growing repeating of her statements in various ways. It's boring. It also says that someone doesn't believe the audience can understand something the first time. I also know that if I go to fb, someone will have picked up the salient part of what she said and pass it on. MSNBC sucks, plain and simple. They have gone over to THE DARK SIDE. I now watch either Link TV or AlJazeera America. They also don't bore the living daylights out of you with loops of the same material during whatever BIG event happens next. There ARE other things going on in the world.

[merrily]

157. During the Dimson years, I think we were all so parched for something not RW

that anything not RW sounded great. That is not enough anymore, though.

Rachel does tend to over-explain, as though she were trying to teach nuclear physics to kindergarteners. Her faked delight and hilarity at her own words has grown old, too. She needs to have many more guests on her show. She is much better at interviewing than at explaining things to the camera.

[Bohunk68]

159. Right on. You put it well.

I'm getting too frickin old for this crap and my attention span is for the birds. Either say it and move on or, <click> goes the channel. And, it is the same stuff that the previous airhead was saying, Buh Bye!

[merrily]

160. .

[Vinca]

39. Wow - that's a whopper.

[KoKo]

40. K&R!

[Pharaoh]

48. well he shredded her husband

Alan Greenspan on a senate hearing once. Im sure there will be many more paybacks from her.

[olddots]

49. yo Andrea thats a fucking bold faced lie

not being a law geek isn't that slander ?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

50. I can't find the picture in GIS

but there is a picture I have seen in the New Yorker of a dinner party in the 1960s at Ayn Rand's apartment where Da Span is one of the guests, and it's obvious he's one of her disciples.



But yes, Bernie is NOT approved by the NRA. I heard Ari Melber talking about that on Ken Doll's show, and he repeated that Bernie had good approval ratings from the NRA when they were talking about his rising poll numbers in Iowa and New Hampshire.

[merrily]

128. If D- to F are good approval ratings, I want a word with my parents about my report cards.

[ChiciB1]

52. Apparently This I A Comment That MSNBC Is Pushing!

Listening to Thom Hartmann Show, and he actually mentioned your post here "merrily," but someone else just called in and said the commentator who was on the last hour said the very same thing. Since I don't watch MSNBC anymore I don't know who the host was, but this factoid may be smoothing that EVERY MSNBC host is going to repeat. I do hope that they get bombarded by calls who can EXPLAIN the reasons that "make" it seem like he supports NRA. AND, they need to be told to do RESEARCH and find out what grade the NRA give him. They need to be told IF they are going represent themselves as journalist rather than mouth piece gossips they should do their homework before they report UNTRUTHS as facts!

What is the best number to call because it isn't only Andrea Mitchell's show?

[merrily]

130. NBC News contact page is all I know. Hartman, however may be able to use the press number.

http://www.nbcnews.com/contact

[valerief]

54. Complain that Mrs. Greenspan is lying? C'mon. That'd be like complaining

Huckabee or Fiorina lies. That's what conservatives do.

[merrily]

132. Huckabee was on FOX. Greenspan is on MSNBC and, sometimes, on MTP.

[valerief]

136. She's still a billionaires' shill. nt

[merrily]

137. Definitely. But she's lying to Democrats during a contested Dem Presidential primary season.

I don't see that as ho hum. I think it's worth contacting MSNBC andd/or Mrs. Greenspan.

[valerief]

140. M$NBC is mostly Republican TV. It starts off with Dead Intern Scabby.

And it's showcase show is about prison life. I'm not sure what liberal shows are left on the network, since it's cancelled so many, but it's a network geared to protecting the Wall St. oligarchs.

I'd rather just not watch it, except for occasionally Chris and Rachel.

[merrily]

141. Yes. Used to be even worse. Started off with racist Don Imus, had the bow-tied Swanson heir, etc.

Seems to be headed back there, too.

[SHRED]

55. Bernie confronts her husband

[MrMickeysMom]

61. Greenspan is a fascist and corporatist who's promoted...

... traderous policies for 25 years.

Next?

[olddots]

64. Shred can't thank you enough for that

wow never saw that .

BERNIE has to become president .

[SHRED]

66. Yes he does!

[LuckyLib]

87. This is a stunning takedown and Bernie is STILL

today a champion of working people. Thanks for posting.

[merrily]

133. I've seen that twice before. It's great. Now, I just watch the guy on the right cracking up.

[madfloridian]

56. Twittered it to her attention

https://twitter.com/madfloridian/status/651108406686822400

[merrily]

154. Great, madfloridian. Thanks.

[Dont call me Shirley]

60. Greedspan's wife? Thom Hartman gave good mention to this Andrea LIE!

[merrily]

145. Greedspan. Good one. New to me.

[Dont call me Shirley]

181. Very fitting too.

[lark]

62. So sick of this crap.

MSM talking heads are mainly just lying jerks, wordsmithing for the 1%.

[Babel_17]

65. That level of deception is just creepy (nt)

[elleng]

67. Right.

[libodem]

68. .

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[Enthusiast]

69. MSNBC does not deserve you.

Andrea Mitchell knew this was a lie.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

70. I don't know if she told it multiple times, or the lie was merely replayed over and over.

But I heard her say it at 2:02 EST on MSNBC and there was a little 'LIVE' graphic in the upper right corner of the screen, I think it was. And Steve Kornacki, whom they then segued to went right along with it. I've lost a fair amount of respect for Kornacki of late... It's easy to be a journalist when it's Republicans he's digging into, but he seems to have stopped bothering to do his homework when supporting Hillary against Bernie.

[SandersDem]

73. This

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[cascadiance]

76. The Korporate Media will continue to go after Bernie...

They know they have to do their best (which as shown here is pretty lame) to stop him or get pushed out of power.

[I dunno]

77. What I dont understand is according to the gun "enthusiasts" on DU, guns are wildly popular

to the vast majority of Americans.

if this is true, why doesnt Bernie run ON his support of gun ownership?


I mean as a Bernie supporter I would differ with him on this but I would still support him.

So which is it?

[DianeK]

83. exactly

i have supported bernie for decades...on this one issue we disagree...although i understand where he is coming from...it changes nothing as far as my support for this man who has worked tirelessly for us in vermont for decades

[Paka]

79. K&R

I'm glad I don't have a TV. No temtation to listen to the shills.

[SoapBox]

81. Ack!

And then she did a nice segment on Ms. Inevitable on the NBC Nightly News...lots of Hill being all sincere, one 2 second mention of Bernie and hand wringing about Biden.

Blah!

[cal04]

85. Just tweeted this to her

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-appalled-by-mass-shootings/
Sanders ‘Appalled’ by Mass-Shootings

(snip)
While there are deep political divisions among Americans on guns, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday said he believes a consensus can be developed for ways to lessen the likelihood of horrific mass-shootings which have plagued the country, including last week’s murders at a community college in Oregon.

“Like the rest of the nation, I am appalled by gun violence in our country and the mass shootings in our churches and colleges,” Sanders said. “While there is no simple fix, that does not mean we should do nothing. The status quo clearly is not working and people on both sides of this issue cannot simply continue shouting at each other. Nobody wants more mass killings and serious people are going to have to engage in serious discussion.”

“In my view, there are very concrete steps we can take to lessen the number of tragedies and to make those that happen less lethal, including ideas supported by a majority of gun owners,” the senator added.

Sanders said:

“We must strengthen and better enforce the instant background check system.
“We must close the gun-show loophole, which allows unlicensed dealers to sell guns to people who otherwise would not be able to get them.
“We must make ‘straw man’ purchases a federal crime.
“We must ban semi-automatic assault weapons which are designed strictly for killing human beings.
“We must recognize that our mental health system is seriously broken. While there has been much talk about mental health parity in our health care system, we are not even close to achieving it. It’s past time for a serious discussion about identifying, intervening and treating mental illness and ensuring access to care.”
In addition, Sanders said his presidential campaign is assembling a comprehensive package of measures to address gun violence.

As Vermont’s lone congressman and as a senator, Sanders consistently supported strong gun safety legislation. As a result, he has a National Rifle Association rating of D-.

[merrily]

158. Good work!

[Thespian2]

86. Mitchell

apparently used up her last functioning brain-cell...

[DrBulldog]

97. What a fricking liar! She's is just a Hillary shill.

Go research Bernie's NRA for the past 10 years, it's easy to do. Bernie has gotten nothing but D's and F's the entire time.

[merrily]

98. Thanks. I know that because I have researched it, because I don't buy into the Hillary campaign's

talking points, and because I have no personal or family conflicts of interest involving Sanders or the Clintons. Gee, do you suppose that's maybe how journalists should be?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

110. Instant gratification

Remember how the right wing emphasized the Hussein in Barack's name? Maybe we should refer to her as Andrea Greenspan Mitchell.

[shadowmayor]

117. Ick

She sleeps with one Alan Greenspan. 'nuff said!

[senz]

147. Bernie's track record on gun control is actually very good.

What gets me is this massive pile-on by the media. He's good, he's strong, he's right, but omg what he's up against.

AND, how much I disrespect the establishment for trying to squash him like that. It makes me sick. I wonder if Rachel feels just a little bit guilty for doing this? She knows damn good and well that Hillary is just a shillary for the 1%. Hell, Rachel knows perfectly well that Hillary was against gay marriage until very recently. So Rachel has sold her soul?

But then I recall the tens of thousands of enthusiastic people who come out for Bernie's rallies and think, maybe, maybe this time the people will win.

[merrily]

155. Rachel is a dutiful MSNBC employee. If she weren't, she'd be gone, like

Olberman, Cenk and Shultz.

People on this thread posted that MSNBC pushed this lie all day and evening.

[IHateTheGOP]

161. What do you expect from an American "news" source?

[merrily]

162. Anywhere on this long thread, did I post that I was surprised?

[JohnnyRingo]

167. How does this hurt Sanders?

First, people on the left are unlikely to turn their collective backs on him and switch to Team Hillary over this one issue, and second, a good many registered democrats are gun owners.

It's actually more that 2nd point than the lousy 10mil voters who hold NRA membership cards that slows gun control laws in Congress. Gun control is not a strictly partisan issue anymore. Sure, a lot of the far left wants to throw all the guns in the ocean, but they aren't about to shun Bernie over it.

If anything, such a statement could pick up some of the moderate vote from Clinton. Maybe Sanders supporters don't want them in their camp or something, but if I were advising Bernie I'd play both sides of this by calling for measured steps that don't threaten personal ownership. That's what Clinton will probably do.

[merrily]

168. Is that your standard for a journalist telling a lie gratuitously during primary season? Really?

[JohnnyRingo]

169. I haven't researched it, so I don't know the nuances.

He represents Vermont which on one hand has a sporting economy, but on the other it's New England, so I'm not as certain of his position. I suspect he's played both sides of it in the past to keep his job in the Senate.

I think Hillary's New York roots and the Assault Weapon Ban define Clinton pretty well on gun control. Personally, as a gun owner myself, I'm not with Hillary (or half of DU) on this particular issue.

[merrily]

171. Huh? Mitchell's statement was that the NRA had, of course, long supported Sanders.

It endorsed him ONCE, 25 years ago, before he got to Congress and has rated him, on the basis of his votes in the House and Senate, D- to F ever since. Her statement was a lie, plain and simple.

She lied about NRA support, not the "nuances" of Sanders' acts and omissions.

Also, you ducked my question about your standard for a lie by a journalist about a candidate for POTUS during primary season.

[merrily]

173. P.S. To keep his job in the Senate, all Sanders has to do is be the same as he has always been.

No one has been able to defeat him in 25 years. It's Hillary who is the weathervane.

As far as not wanting moderates to support him, don't be silly. People want as many as possible to support Sanders. About 25% of Vermont's Republicans have been voting for him all along and no one has a problem with that except the Republican politicians.

[JohnnyRingo]

179. I agree

Instead trying to get Mitchell to rescind her statement, as this thread seems to demand, the campaign should just not respond, as I suspect may happen. MSNBC isn't going to retract anything anyway, but no one has ever lost an election by at least appearing to support the 2nd amendment.

While many may want Bernie to pass a liberal purity test, it might not be a bad idea to say he's the only one on the podium who supports a responsible American's right to defend themselves. Strict gun control is one of several issues I personally part ways with Hillary on.

Having said that, I didn't realize when I commented that this is the Bernie Group. I respect the sanctuary and want to be clear that I didn't intend to malign him. I just don't think this will hurt his run in any way. He could clarify his position, but I'd just keep talking about cleaning Wall Street.

[merrily]

180. I think one person on this long thread "demanded" a retraction.

no one has ever lost an election by at least appearing to support the 2nd amendment.

I don't know if that is so, but this is a Democratic primary and a popular Democratic President has just asked the nation to become one issue voters.

Having said that, I didn't realize when I commented that this is the Bernie Group.

Yes, it is. And, given all you've posted about supporters of Sanders, I was surprised you posted here.

I just don't think this will hurt his run in any way.

Again, that is simply not the standard to apply when we are talking about a journalist lying about the second place candidate in a Presidential primary.

[Zorra]

170. Kill Your Televison. "Most Young People Say They Have Stopped Watching TV"...

Forrester polled a panel of 4,709 individuals in the US and found just 46% of respondents between the ages of 18 and 88 years old watched linear TV in a typical month. It's worth bearing in mind this research shows the results of a survey, rather than actual consumption data, but the shift is interesting nonetheless.

A small majority of Generation X and Baby Boomers said they watched linear TV, but that average was dragged down by millennials.

http://www.businessinsider.com/forrester-video-and-tv-consumption-report-2015-1

Get them out of your head.

[merrily]

172. Thanks. I'd rather know what lies they're telling, so I can take action, if I wish.

You may feel otherwise, and that's fine.

BTW, I bet people lie to pollsters about how much TV they watch because they are embarrassed by how much they actually do watch.

[avaistheone1]

176. K&R

Andrea Mitchell is a liar, liar pants on fire