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merrily

(45,251 posts)
Sun May 17, 2015, 06:38 AM May 2015

Back-handed compliments to Bernie from unexpected sources

When you google Bernie Sanders, you never know what you might find.



The Cato organization deems other Senators further left, fiscally, than Bernie.

http://www.cato.org/blog/bernie-sanders-most-liberal-senator (my only visit to the Cato Institute site, so I hope nothing worse than being Republican is on the site )

The Ron Paul Institute credits Bernie with exposing bloated military and surveillance budgets. (I will not give the link because I know Ron Paul has a history of publishing ugly things and I do not wish to encourage the clicks. Take my word for it, or don't.) This is the you tube link to the video the Ron Paul Institute includes in its article.

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orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. It's a dismissive ploy while jumping on the band wagon, it's like when
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:02 AM
May 2015

Hillary said " I'm Bernie Sanders " she was actually trying to nullify him by morphing into him, the assholes in these think tanks ar the terrorists .

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. I didn't know she said that. She attempted an "I am Spartacus," manuever, but instead of putting
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:46 AM
May 2015

herself at risk of death, as did those who claimed to be Spartacus, she hoped to get votes? LOL!

Well, as best I know, neither Cato Institute nor Ron Paul claim to be Bernie Sanders or anything like Bernie Sanders. So, it's not exactly like Hillary's claiming to be Bernie. Still can't get over that one!

And, regardless of their intent, nothing prevents Bernie's supporters from using the statements, as, when and if they find them useful.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. I just googled, but the first thing to come up was Bernie supposedly saying "I am not Hillary."
Sun May 17, 2015, 12:04 PM
May 2015
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-stuck-between-elizabeth-warren-and-hillary-clinton

Meanwhile, DU's 10% keeps claiming there is no difference between Hillary and Bernie, except maybe that pesky Iraq War vote (and advocacy). Who do you suppose might know better about that, Bernie himself, or a DUer?

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
10. + 1000 !!!
Sun May 17, 2015, 03:45 PM
May 2015

The difference between Hillary and Bernie is immense, and by saying " I'm not Hillary Clinton " he denotes difference , Her by saying " I Bernie Sanders " she's denying herself, oh and not that it makes a difference April New Yorker .






http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/hillary-expected-to-adopt-all-of-sanderss-positions-by-noon

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
2. "Sound" fiscal policy is a socialist position.
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:41 AM
May 2015

Since it is also a conservative position, no wonder.

If government debt increases, the interest on the debt is in effect a transfer from taxpayers in general to the billionaire class, who own most of the bonds. The liberal "we owe it to ourselves" position differs from a socialist view in pretending that there are no class distinctions. But socialists go further than conservatives. Government surpluses are a socialist policy, as Greenspan pointed out.

Well, some people who consider themselves socialists may disagree -- there is plenty of dissent within the socialist camp -- but that seems to be Bernie's view of it, as it was the view of the Nobel Laureate economist and Fabian socialist Sir Arthur Lewis. (Note also this.)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. Thank you. All information of this kind is most welcome to me as I have never
Sun May 17, 2015, 07:53 AM
May 2015

looked into socialism before. In fact, I never thought of Scandinavian countries as socialist before. (Duh.)

Maybe we should start cross posting some of the Bernie threads in the Socialist group so we get some better-informed input than Bernie fan like me can offer. In another window right now, I am drafting a Bernie thread that could really use some socialist smarts that I lack.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
7. Other than being a Koch-founded (and funded) libertarian opinion leader
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

And Diane Rheem's goto think tank when she needs the 'liberal' viewpoint (personally I think she's confused about liberal and libertarian)

They sometimes emulate the blind squirrel by finding an acorn.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
13. I don't confuse liberal with libertarian,but
Sun May 17, 2015, 04:53 PM
May 2015

the only item, where I agree with the Pauls is their
resistance to the US playing Empire in military
ways. It is an expansion without capability, imo.

Thus I am not surprised about their approval of
Bernie concerning this item.

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