Is it my imagination, or is it awfully quiet on the other side of the primary?

[Demeter]

Not that I'm complaining, mind you. I just thought if the rest of you see that, maybe the supporters of She who must not be maligned are having second thoughts.

[haikugal]

1. I have so many on ignore I wouldn't know....sorry.

However I doubt they're rethinking their support.

[Old Codger]

2. I also have

A pretty high percentage blocked..

[MissDeeds]

7. Same here n/t

[SandersDem]

3. So far

I only have one on ignore. It's quiet. They know that was a major gaffe.

[LWolf]

4. Maybe.

I am seeing a bunch of attacks from them, though. Best defense, etc..

[winter is coming]

18. They're probably waiting to see whether HRC will backpedal or double down,

so they can support that accordingly.

[JackInGreen]

5. I removed everyone from the iggy box

About 2 weeks ago as a self control excersize. The poll posters have been at it a little and a couple of her more brazen have tried to hit bernie and prop her up but yeah. Overall quiet
I did celebrate seeing a few trumpet the PPP polls while their other allies stated their invalidity but that's the most 'loud' I've seen.

[jalan48]

6. I think they are just waiting for the primary to be over.

They are certain Hillary is going to win and then it will be payback time for all of us who have been insulting the Empress.

[senz]

9. While I fear their reaction should Queeniepooh lose the Primary.

There's an unsettling lack of stability in certain quarters.

[Menshunables]

14. If Bernie wasn't running it would have been a certainty that she win.

The establishment must be so pissed off at him for rocking her boat. Some of the meetings and the conversations must involve yelling and blaming and utter confusion why this is not a cakewalk for her, again.

This is my first post here. Please don't hurt me, it looks scary out there.

[jalan48]

15. Naw-we just like to rabble rouse-

Yes, Bernie's message is certainly something the 1% would rather not see being foisted on the public. Better the peasants focus on the Kardashians and their friends.

[MisterP]

17. they really didn't EXPECT a primary, hence the flailing that seems so surprising in

a well-funded and sophisticated machine run by one of the most experienced and ambitious pols

they were expecting a Kucinich (wonky lefty not cracking 15%) or a Bill Bradley (more populist but also a little more righty, not passing 25%); at worst there'd be a Biden--someone primary voters could easily imagine in the WH: but since he's not a Black Chicagoan, IL and the South would be a sure bet this time around (that IS how they think about voting)

but instead there's someone who lays out the whole political and economic system and gets Dems, indeps, Pubs thinking about whether these are working for or against them;

presumably the flailing and crude smears are because this just wasn't supposed to happen, and they couldn't really expect that it would: they think most Americans are happy with the party's current stance because they voted for Obama in 2012 (the poor Congressional votes 2010-4 can always be blamed on the voters)

[Menshunables]

19. I find it extremely interesting that not long ago, Canada elected Trudeau

by what some call an overwhelming majority. I don't know the numbers exactly but I do recall that not long before the election all three parties were thought to be in a dead heat.

I take this as very good news for Bernie as I believe similar will be happening with him and his sleeper voters. The pollsters and media are either deliberately skewing results to favor Clinton to make her look more formidable than she is so people for Bernie lose hope and give up, or they are behind the times and are not asking the right question or asking the wrong people.

I really like how Bernie's message is being heard by all (especially by the 1% but in a very different way!). If he takes a big chomp of Independents there is nothing Hillary can do about losing.

[alcina]

20. That's not the kind of good news you think it is

First, Trudeau's liberals took 184/338 seats in parliament -- ie, 54% -- with only 39.5% of the popular vote.

Second -- and more importantly -- the Liberals are the centrists in Canada, much more similar to the third-way Democrats than to the politics of Bernie Sanders. Yes, the Liberal party ran a very good campaign and made some very progressive promises; but if past performance is any indicator, they will govern far more to the right of where they campaigned.

If you were looking for signs of Canada moving to the left, then an NDP victory would have been a much better indicator. That is the more progressive of our three parties. But along with a number of other factors, the MSM's bias toward the Liberals contributed to the NDP slipping from first to third place. I have a good friend at one of the major news organizations who told me that photos and video clips of the three parties were regularly vetted by management to ensure that 1) Trudeau appeared more likable and trustworthy than the other two main candidates, and 2) he received more positive coverage overall. Sound familiar?

And welcome to DU.

[Menshunables]

22. Thank you for the welcome.

You do have a point, of course. By what I hear there is great happiness that Harper is out but as you say Trudeau just may be a Third Wayer of the North. It would be a great disappointment but politics is nothing but disappointments.

The last triad of world change, by how I see things, was the Thatcher, Reagan and Mulroney days, a triple whammy to all three countries and it's citizens and well beyond (Falklands, Nicaragua and bad trade deals, etc.) . Such great harm was done and marked a turning point down for the common person from that time forward. Looking back it seemed like a grand plan for the three of them to hold the office of leader at the same time as they were very similar in their thirst to step on the little person and weaken citizen's civil and economic powers and start the fad of the corporation who had not allegiance to country and it's well being anymore, but to the might of the dollar.

Interesting that you say Trudeau is a Third Wayer much as what is said about Clinton and her Third Way. I wonder who the British have now or planning to to fill in the third spot for Round 2.

[swilton]

21. I can't believe it's still not a cakewalk

I heard the discussion on Morning Joe - it was like they still can't believe the empress has no clothes......

She showed her true colors, she lost her cool and she invoked the sacred 9/11.....It's still at a stage of cognitive dissonance.

[Hiraeth]

28. I have to wonder about that, given O'Malley's strong performance in that second debate.

The ego it takes for her to think she would not be primary-ed just boggles my mind.

[Menshunables]

30. She lost her cool when Bernie challenged her about her Wall street money.

It's hard to believe she wouldn't be better prepared for that and blathered on all that nonsense.

That makes me very wary and leery of her credentials to be at least a half decent President if she loses it so easily.

[senz]

8. Well now at least we know why DWS didn't want many debates.

I too have some of the worst on ignore. It was weird at first, those gaps in the comment flow, but after a few days, it's as if someone took out the trash and cleaned the place up. DU is starting to smell sweet as a rose.

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[Demeter]

11. True, and very convenient, too. But I doubt it was the primary ISIS sought to disrupt

That's okay, while they are off fighting, we can govern...

[Demeter]

13. An honest one, though

The most honest she will ever be.

[TBF]

16. I've got like 50 on ignore now ...

but they also have their super-secret Hillary supporters club, so they're likely hanging out there.

[Old Codger]

24. I just checked

I actually have over 90 on ignore.... Pretty sickening, I only ignore them if they are way out of line in their responses/posts, reasonable well worded I can deal with fine. Everyone has an opinion and defending a reasonable stance is fine....the BS is too damn deep around here and I can only stand so much stink...

[TBF]

25. That's how I feel as well.

When push comes to shove most of us will vote for the nominee. Are any of us really going to vote for Trump? No, we'll vote the nominee or a third party choice if we're in a place where it's not close. But I hate having it rammed down my throat every other post. I agree with Bernie on like 99% of the issues so my focus right now is supporting him so he ends up BEING the nominee!

[ornotna]

23. They must have been napping earlier

They're out in force this evening.

[tazkcmo]

26. They need their naps.

Helps clear up their confusion.

[dorkzilla]

27. Well if it's any indicator (and I believe it is)

A very vocal HRC supporter has OP in which he says nice things about Bernie. Don't want to get a hide for a call-out but it just appeared on GDP about an hour ago.

I actually think some are seeing the writing on the wall after HRCs 9/11 & women supporters gaffe Saturday.

[Hiraeth]

29. Demeter, I think it is your imagination. I only have one person on ignore and GD-P

still looks pretty damn rowdy to me.