Bernie Sanders
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Is Sanders "courting" Racists and Nazis? Hell No!By WB Reeves * Saturday Jan 02, 2016 * Daily Kos
Lets get one thing straight from the get go. There is only one way to court racists and bigots: thats by pandering to their racism and bigotry.
Its an important point to keep in mind going forward, since there is now a meme being pushed that argues ... that by suggesting that some Trump supporters might be attracted to some of his economic and anti-establishment positions Bernie Sanders is courting racists and even,believe it or not, Nazis.
It seems that courting racists and bigots now includes articulating the belief that an appeal to the broadest shared interest can overcome the divisive appeals of racism, sexism and homophobia. In other words, that telling white people that they are being played for suckers by appeals to racism and that they would be better off making common cause with their fellow citizens of every race, creed or color, is actually an appeal to racist sentiments.
At least that would seem to be the reasonable conclusion to draw from those whove been assailing Sanders for this suggestion. Stripped of its emotional demagogy, that is essentially the complaint: that Sanders is attempting to draw people away from Trumps racist snake oil with his economic message and that is, somehow, a bad thing.
If the argument seems to strain credulity, I suspect that is because it is actually fueled by fear. Not a baseless, imaginary fear but one grounded in historical experience.
~snp~
Unlike a lot of folks,I do have first hand knowledge and experience of people who have recovered from being virulent racists. Im talking about people who had been sucked into the most extreme forms of white racism and white supremacy; KKK, Nazi Skinheads, etc. In every instance such people were salvaged by confronting them with the fact that they had shared interests with the very people they were indoctrinated to hate.
I have a hard time imagining that the average Trump supporter is any worse than they were. ... Sanders isnt appealing to anyone on the basis of bigotry or racism.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/2/1465446/-Is-Sanders-courting-Racist-and-Nazis-Hell-No
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Somehow he cuts through a lot of the hate to get his message heard. Everyone I have seen that didn't know Bernie before the primary process started that has seen him in any kind of video clip likes him. They like him even if they don't agree with him. They say he makes sense on some issues, mostly on the issue of corporations buying power in congress.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)They only people who find Sanders to be "scary" are greedy billionaires and people who directly or indirectly make their living by aligning their loyalties with the Billionaire Class.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)they brag about how much money they have then say economic issues aren't important.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And it's shamefully dishonest to imply otherwise. Though sadly, it's not at all surprising that they would do so. There appears to be no depth too low when it comes to trying to discredit him.
"Whatever It Takes(tm)" can lead to some very shitty behavior.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)What Bernie did undermines the toxic forms of tribalism that have pervaded our political landscape for so many years. We tend to think in terms of winning a game, as if our lives should hinge on a game. This is not a game.
God forbid "they" be on "our" side. What Bernie did was brilliant - he demonstrated that there are no sides.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)crazy like a fox
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Proserpina
(2,352 posts)and the (self-denying) haters who run rampant on the internet in Third Way, corporate "democratic" sheepskins...why do they not see that they have shared interests with Bernie and Bernie supporters?
Because they don't, at least, not in their minds!
These haters fully expect great rewards for stabbing their neighbors, colleagues, fellow Democrats in the back (or at least, tying their shoelaces together) and scooping up little rewards for faithful service to the forces of evil, the 1%, and the status quo.
Pretty sick thinking, and while it's totally unlikely that they will be rewarded as they expect, regardless of how much money the SuperPACs turn over...or perhaps, screwing people is sufficient reward for these sick, sick souls.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)As for me, I'm staying of his way. Who am I to interrupt the person who is actually trying what some would call impossible? It's not like I can reach them, what with my black skin and kinky hair? Nah, I'm tired of the hate and black people are not going to fix racism. If we could, that shit'd be done already.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)"hurr durr, racists and nazis are hyooge fans of socialist Jews!"