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in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:04 PM Jan 2016

Remember this? HRH and guns...

I do. This is the flier HRH sent out during her 2008 campaign against Obama. She insinuated he was trying to take people's guns away from them and now she's taking the complete opposite stance on the issue attacking Bernie. She evolved again! And she's to be believed that her current stance on the gun issue is authentic? Really?

Clinton mailing attacks Obama on guns

By Ben Smith

05/04/08 12:16 PM EDT

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/05/clinton-mailing-attacks-obama-on-guns-008390#ixzz3wm2qS0ff


Hillary Clinton has re-opened her sharp attack on Barack Obama's position on guns, with a mailer in Indiana that seeks to raise questions about him with both supporters and opponents of gun rights.

The mailing -- perhaps the sharpest-edged of Clinton's five negative mail pieces in Indiana -- casts him as a typical politician, saying different things to different audiences. It also revives his damaging comments in San Francisco that small town people cling to guns.

Then, making the harsh case more broadly, the mailer asks: "What does Barack Obama really believe?"

The piece is particularly striking coming from Clinton, who has been seen for most of her career as a firm advocate of gun control, but more recently has emerged -- without dramatically shifting her stance on specific issues -- as a defender of the Second Amendment who fondly recalled being taught to shoot by her grandfather in Scranton.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/05/clinton-mailing-attacks-obama-on-guns-008390#ixzz3wm2HpB6b




"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsman, how she values the second amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said, invoking the famed female sharpshooter immortalized in the musical "Anne Get Your Gun."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/obama-shame-on-annie-oakley-007767#ixzz3wm4CWkGX

Hillary Clinton issues stern rebuke to Bernie Sanders on gun control record


<snip>
“When it really mattered, Senator Sanders voted with the gun lobby, and I voted against the gun lobby,” Clinton said in an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC, citing Sanders’ support in 2005 for a bill that granted legal protections to gun manufacturers.<snip>

<snip>
“Bernie has been a consistent supporter of gun safety legislation since he lost his first bid for Congress in a campaign in which he supported an assault weapons ban,” Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager, said in a statement. “The National Rifle Association has given him grades of D- and F.”<snip>

<snip>
Sanders has defended his record as shaped by his perspective as a senator from Vermont, a rural state with low rates of gun violence. In an interview with the Guardian in December, Sanders said his gun control stance was “not very different from what Hillary Clinton or anybody else believes”.

“But politics being what it is, they saw that as a vulnerability of mine because I come from a state that doesn’t have any gun control but I think we’re handling it fine now,” he said.Sanders has defended his record as shaped by his perspective as a senator from Vermont, a rural state with low rates of gun violence. In an interview with the Guardian in December, Sanders said his gun control stance was “not very different from what Hillary Clinton or anybody else believes”. <snip>

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/09/hillary-clinton-issues-stern-rebuke-to-bernie-sanders-on-gun-control-record


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Remember this? HRH and guns... (Original Post) in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 OP
and this Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #1
Yes... in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #2
Flip-flop Annie Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #3
That was my favorite quote from 2008! Awknid Jan 2016 #4
Voters should be reminded about Pennsylvania Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #6
to whom does the "hrh" in the title refer, since the body of the article appears to reference niyad Jan 2016 #5
"her Royal Highness?" Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #7
That's correct. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #8
Not to worry, she'll flip back into Annie Oakley mode as soon as she sews up the nomination tularetom Jan 2016 #9

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
2. Yes...
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

And now she little Ms. anti-gun. She's not fooling anyone with her current flip-flop. Like Bernie said, he and HRH aren't that far apart on the gun issue - and she knows it.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
6. Voters should be reminded about Pennsylvania
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

Over the weekend, Clinton sought to capitalize on remarks Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) made about gun owners by casting herself as a Second American champion and reminiscing about how “my dad …. taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl.”
Shooting, she said Saturday, is “part of the culture … part of a way of life” in some rural areas of Pennsylvania, which hold its primary a week from Tuesday.
Clinton was so enthusiastic about her remarks that Obama mocked them on Sunday by saying: “She's running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she VALUES the Second Amendment — she's talkin' like she's Annie Oakley,” the frontier markswoman.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2008/04/annie-oakley-changes-her-tune-009594#ixzz3wmGz6lJL

niyad

(113,092 posts)
5. to whom does the "hrh" in the title refer, since the body of the article appears to reference
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

sec't. clinton?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. Not to worry, she'll flip back into Annie Oakley mode as soon as she sews up the nomination
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jan 2016

When she has to appeal to "hard working white Americans", you can forget all this holier than thou bullshit about gun control.

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