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Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:00 PM Jan 2016

Proud Visionary

I voted in my very first presidential election on Nov 2004
I was an angry 19 year old, who hated GWB with every single fiber in my body.
I originally supported Dr. Dean ,but when he failed to clinch the nomination I supported J. Kerry.
When Kerry lost ( OH results were bullshit) I said to myself I would do everything in my power to never support the Establishment candidate ever again. That time came in 2007 ,When a skinny ,funny named man from Senator from Illinois declared his plans to run for president. Barack Obama was my candidate,

Barack Obama was a visionary, and someone that won by being so. He laid out plans for Healthcare, Closing Gitmo, vote against the war in Iraq, Hope & Change, and energized youth voters.. He took on the Clinton Machine and won ! After a few years, Pres. Obama shifted from being a visionary to a pragmatist and the results were a bloodbath in 2010, and 2014 midterms. Why do Democrats give up during midterm elections ? Answer is simple: those in Establishment hate progressives so they hand pick shitty candidates to run and than pass blame on the voters

When Sen. Sanders talks about a political revolution,it is a transformation of the party and the electorate.
I do not have crystal ball nor some tarot cards to tell me the future ,but I do know that those underestimating the Sanders campaign are in for a huge shock .

Give me a Visionary who will fight for me vs a Pragmatic who will sell me out


- TP85

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Proud Visionary (Original Post) Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 OP
I admire both your zeal and your solid sense in whom you choose to support Warpy Jan 2016 #1
True RobertEarl Jan 2016 #6
Congratulations on the thoroughness with which you missed the point. Warpy Jan 2016 #7
I'd rather have a visionary than a weather-vane Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #2
How about a pragmatic weather-vain? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #4
All a visionary needs are Phlem Jan 2016 #3
K & rec! Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #5

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. I admire both your zeal and your solid sense in whom you choose to support
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jan 2016

but as you get older, you'll realize that sometimes you'll just have to grab what you can get, and that means supporting some stiff who will give you some of what you want instead of a horror who will keep taking away more things.

That was a really, really tough lesson for me to learn. It will be for you, too.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
6. True
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:19 AM - Edit history (1)

As we get older we get much more comfortable. We no longer can be drafted and have to go fight in another damn war some asswipe has engineered. We have a little more cash and all these damn anchors hanging on us, holding us back from action that we know we should take to further peace and planetary health.

Yes, we get more selfish as we age and begin considering our own benefits rather than the community's. And that's how come there are so many republicans and grifters.

Thank gawd we have youth like the OP who have not yet succumbed to old farts' selfishness. Eh?

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
3. All a visionary needs are
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

the do'ers. The people that turn the gears.

If you don't have a vision, where are you going?

I'm sure there are plenty unsavories that'll fill that void.

Excellent post.

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