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Hell Freaking Yes! (Original Post) RiffRandell Jan 2016 OP
The Clinton campaign and the media wouldn't know what truth was even if they fell over it Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #1
I would lean more towards they are Phlem Jan 2016 #4
They're so Machiavellian, the Clinton machine. Makes me sick. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #6
Really if you think about it, it's a marketing campaign and Phlem Jan 2016 #15
What gets me is that bvf Jan 2016 #23
I disagree with you on ethics in business as a business guy davidpdx Jan 2016 #54
and also far and few in the scope of all things. Phlem Jan 2016 #55
Politics is a business to them. RiffRandell Jan 2016 #12
Absolutely it's business, and our politicians are Phlem Jan 2016 #16
Sociopaths often lie pathologically nxylas Jan 2016 #30
Everybody lies, tells half truths or uses omission to try to fool people nolabels Jan 2016 #32
You can bet they know the truth, they just cant stand it and wont admit it until they have to litlbilly Jan 2016 #14
K & R Veritas appalachiablue Jan 2016 #2
Kickin jhart3333 Jan 2016 #3
K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #5
Yep Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #7
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #8
Thank you! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #10
K & R dae Jan 2016 #9
Truth - Bernie - go together. 840high Jan 2016 #11
Yup. RiffRandell Jan 2016 #13
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #17
Very welcome! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #27
Bernie just confirms what everyone was thinking, but couldn't prove: OUR GOVERNMENT AND WALL ST. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #18
Great post! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #28
So who is Hillary going to get to lie for her next? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #19
The four female Senators headed for Iowa this weekend are no doubt rehearsing their lies right now. Green Forest Jan 2016 #22
INDEED. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #20
Hell yeah! tex-wyo-dem Jan 2016 #21
You got it! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #25
Why hasn't this *blown up* the rec counter yet?? bvf Jan 2016 #24
Don't care, but thank you! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #26
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #29
Thanks! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #36
The truth: Hillary is toast! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #31
STALE toast. hifiguy Jan 2016 #46
K&R Stick a fork into her sonofspy777 Jan 2016 #33
exactly azurnoir Jan 2016 #34
Enthusiastic K&R deutsey Jan 2016 #35
kick'd and rec'd lunatica Jan 2016 #37
Thank you all so much! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #38
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #39
No problem! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #40
Bernie refers to us as we, not as they. I love that, as do many people. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #41
Truth! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #42
Damn right. K&R Duval Jan 2016 #43
Corporations do not like change greiner3 Jan 2016 #44
And the truth shall set you free! hifiguy Jan 2016 #45
I was wondering where you were as I knew you would like this! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #47
As Bender said hifiguy Jan 2016 #48
Nice! RiffRandell Jan 2016 #53
K&R n/t lordsummerisle Jan 2016 #49
And THAT'S the truth Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2016 #50
And this IS the truth. senz Jan 2016 #51
Truth... malokvale77 Jan 2016 #52

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
4. I would lean more towards they are
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jan 2016

not in the *Business* of telling the truth. The mentality is, " you don't run a country by telling the truth all the time." and " You don't get high ratings and top dollar by telling the truth all the time."

Maybe vice versa but somewhere in that general vicinity. It's all about control.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
15. Really if you think about it, it's a marketing campaign and
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary as President is the product.

There hasn't been ethics in business for decades, it's all about the bottom line so the person on top wins.

I present to you the Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
23. What gets me is that
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:36 AM
Jan 2016

the general public has become so used to being lied to that a large percentage just tunes it out, sits out elections, but still gets up enough energy to crab about it whenever it gets fucked over, which is pretty much the constant picture nowadays.

Obama's tried to change that, and, with some big exceptions, I give him a lot of credit.

As for Hillary, she can be found in the toiletries aisle with the eleven kinds of Crest toothpaste. You're right.



davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
54. I disagree with you on ethics in business as a business guy
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jan 2016

Sure, most companies don't care a damn. But look at companies like Costco that have progressive policies (I'm not saying they are perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than most).

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
55. and also far and few in the scope of all things.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:01 AM
Jan 2016

I believe if you put the employee first, it pays off in spades. Then I got into tech.

Costco is a great company and I purchase things from there monthly. Best 1% milk you can find. Mostly I support them because of what they've accomplished.

I've just gotten used to the "Bottom line mentality" exacerbated by the "Mormons" that ran the last company I was employed at. Fucking crooks.

I've been in business for a long time and I've seen very little to get too excited about.

The best times were in the past but I don't believe for one moment it's permanent.

We are meant to plant the seed of a tree we'll never see bloom. That's why I've started my own business and my little girl will damn well see the fruits of my labor.

Oh wait she already has because I've been there 98% of her life because I work from home.

I've been in management, I've done the dirty.

Not anymore.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
12. Politics is a business to them.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:09 AM
Jan 2016

Hey, I will vote for the Dem candidate in the GE, but I love Bernie.

He is what this country needs.

Badly!

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
32. Everybody lies, tells half truths or uses omission to try to fool people
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jan 2016

Just like there is another word, not an exact word but one that mostly fits. It describes what is being done instead of the label. It describes the person by the action, the term 'USER'. Maybe from a time when we younger and didn't need a clinical definition to ones psychology. One knows when another is a USER and or is being used. When it becomes habitual and dysfunctional in a life then the real disgust sets in.

Take the use of one's own daughter, to use her like a tool to try and further one's professional political goal using dishonesty. That is being used and the more simpler idea of USER comes to mind.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
18. Bernie just confirms what everyone was thinking, but couldn't prove: OUR GOVERNMENT AND WALL ST.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

are CORRUPT to the core. Politicians are bought and paid for. They work for the Corporations who bought them. They don't work for us. Like Bernie says, Congress doesn't regulate Wall St., Wall St. regulates Congress.

Everyone in this country knew they were all corrupt (except a small handful), but could never prove it - Bernie confirms everything we all thought! He says it out loud, on TeeVee, for the world to hear. What politician has ever had the nerve to do that? NO ONE. People admire and respect a truth-teller.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

Green Forest

(232 posts)
22. The four female Senators headed for Iowa this weekend are no doubt rehearsing their lies right now.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:14 AM
Jan 2016

"The only female senator in the party to not endorse Clinton is Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), who plays an important role within the party's progressive base.

Clinton's daughter, Chelsea, will also join the campaign on Saturday in Iowa, although she will not be appearing at events with the senators."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/265400-dem-senators-to-hit-stump-for-clinton-in-iowa

They will be spelling Chelsea.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
21. Hell yeah!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:11 AM
Jan 2016

The People aren't stupid and know authenticity and the truth when they hear it.

The main reason I got on Bernie's wagon early...agree or disagree with him, the guy truly believes what he says and speaks from the heart. He has the best interests of the majority of us and has a huge heart!

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
25. You got it!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:28 AM
Jan 2016

I waited for a bit and then realized this is our only hope to get this country on the economic train of income equality.

Thanks!

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
38. Thank you all so much!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

Now let's do everything possible to get Bernie Sanders elected!

This country could be on a turning point that we DESPERATELY need.

I'm excited!

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
44. Corporations do not like change
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jan 2016

And Bernie's sea change ones will freak them out. But I can't tell if the combined powers that be would go with Trump all the way. I'd emigrate if so. But it would be close as if I left my children grandchildren etc...I couldn't say I did my best to make this century's worst (fill in your favorite dystopian scenario) that much less by staying doing what little I could to stem the tide of hatred bigotry and Nationalism possibility of jingoism. Hey did anyone mention race war. Crusades anybody.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
47. I was wondering where you were as I knew you would like this!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jan 2016

You had me worried.

Then again it is Friday night!

Mine, which is quite the norm, consists of having the kids over from across the street for pizza, brownies and having fun with ours. May pull out a board game later.

Anyway, so not a stalker but I thought it was odd you were MIA for awhile.

Glad to finally see you!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
48. As Bender said
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016


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