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appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:12 AM Jan 2016

~TOMMY DOUGLAS, FATHER OF CANADA MEDICARE, SOCIAL DEMOCRAT, KIEFER SUTHERLAND GRANDPA :)



Excellent brief film (5 mins.) on the remarkable accomplishments of Tommy Douglas (1904-1986). The Canadian Politician, Saskatchewan Premier and Leader, Social Democrat, Social and Equal Justice Advocate, Visionary Achiever, Creator of SINGLE-PAYER/UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IN CANADA in 1966, the First Healthcare Service in North America, Voted in 2004 THE GREATEST CANADIAN OF ALL TIME by the people of Canada.

Yooge association with *BERNIE SANDERS in this portrait of an innovative, progressive and influential leader in 20th century Canada. The story breaks me up with respect and admiration, and highlights what we've lost and lack here from polices of the last 30 years.

*FULL VERSION incl. Text & Biography in VIDEO on HOME PAGE now. (I'm unable to paste and x-post links like this now).

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~TOMMY DOUGLAS, FATHER OF CANADA MEDICARE, SOCIAL DEMOCRAT, KIEFER SUTHERLAND GRANDPA :) (Original Post) appalachiablue Jan 2016 OP
Tommy's a Hero of mine. enigmatic Jan 2016 #1
Agree that Tommy was a hero of his times. He's close in some ways to Bernie appalachiablue Jan 2016 #3
Below I posted a video of the great 'Story of Mouseland' told by Tommy Douglas in 1944, thanks. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #12
Inspiring. Is it possible that Bernie could be our Tommy Douglas? libdem4life Jan 2016 #2
I hope and think so about Bernie Sanders. No, the Canadians don't lust and devise appalachiablue Jan 2016 #4
My Grandpa knew him a bit. polly7 Jan 2016 #5
That's great, what did your grandpa think of him? I'm also reminded of Bernie as said. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #6
My Dad only told me he thought he was a good, honest man and his Dad admired him a lot. polly7 Jan 2016 #9
Douglas was in the same stream as Salvador Allende--in the 30s (based on Virchow) medicine MisterP Jan 2016 #15
Thank you! delrem Jan 2016 #7
For sure. 'The Story of Mouseland' by Tommy Douglas is below :) So Relevant, Timeless. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #10
~ The Story of 'Mouseland' told by Canadian Leader Tommy Douglas in 1944, Intro. by Kiefer. See It:) appalachiablue Jan 2016 #8
Tommy's genius as an orator enigmatic Jan 2016 #16
Wow! I love it! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #11
I wish this inspiration could remain pinned at the top. Thank you! Donkees Jan 2016 #13
You bet, he was a true hero for the people. I hope we see another before too long. appalachiablue Jan 2016 #14

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
1. Tommy's a Hero of mine.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jan 2016

His Mouseland speech is exactly what Bernie is talking about. He was a spellbinding orator.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
3. Agree that Tommy was a hero of his times. He's close in some ways to Bernie
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jan 2016

in also being a powerful and impressive speaker, an agent for progressive change and social and economic justice. We so need all that now. Until tonight I'd always heard great things about Tommy and his healthcare achievement then found more material.

Bravo Canada!



- New Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of the Liberal Party -

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
12. Below I posted a video of the great 'Story of Mouseland' told by Tommy Douglas in 1944, thanks.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jan 2016

Wiki, TOMMY DOUGLAS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas


~ Actor Kiefer Sutherland at unveiling of statue of his famous grandfather, Tommy Douglas in Saskatchewan, Canada ~

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. Inspiring. Is it possible that Bernie could be our Tommy Douglas?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jan 2016

The main difference, unfortunately, is that the Canadians are not hellbent on World Empire. That's where our health care money goes....and then fails them and their families when they return maimed and broken, if they return at all.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
4. I hope and think so about Bernie Sanders. No, the Canadians don't lust and devise
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jan 2016

destructive world systems for power, money and war. Canuck society must be wonderful comparatively, burden free deep corruption, greed, military expansions and policies like plundering, exploitive health 'care' insurance and Big Pharma that are draining the finances of regular Americans.

Another issue Bernie is rightly advancing is child care, we rank second to bottom worldwide I believe. Through two different sources this month I've read the cost of childcare in major US cities equals rent or health insurance. In DC it's 40K annual for two kids. How long can these predatory systems continue. For now I work and hope for change, a better society and do keep the faith.

Bravo Canada!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
5. My Grandpa knew him a bit.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:15 AM
Jan 2016

I've read much on Tommy Douglas - I've felt from the start, when Bernie Sanders announced he was running and I learned about him, they were very similar.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
6. That's great, what did your grandpa think of him? I'm also reminded of Bernie as said.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jan 2016

The 20th c. had major horrors but also a huge improvement in the lives of may not all regular people from post WWII industry and prosperity, consumer products, automobiles, rising middle class et al. Much achieved through 100+ years of effort, courage and sacrifice by the progressive and labor movements.

The 21st c. has seen remarkable, rapid technology advances but also serious issues with more to come. I appreciate more of the stability and security of the 20th c. day by day, although that time was marked by major inequalities and deep problems.
We can never go back they say. Yet the plutocrats have made huge progress! in trying to take back society to the unregulated Gilded Age and the social conservatism prevalent in the 1950s. Progress is not linear for sure yet we manage and must move forward. I guess. thumbsup:

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. My Dad only told me he thought he was a good, honest man and his Dad admired him a lot.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jan 2016

He was also a brave man, hated by many, from those in gov't, to doctors themselves ... especially right here in Saskatchewan. He and his family were subject to horrible ridicule in the newspapers, and even a few death threats. But he believed in every word of the speeches he gave - just like Sanders. He saw all around him how people were suffering here in many ways and especially believed in the right of all Canadians "to live with dignity during times of illness and injury".

http://www.weyburnreview.com/community/tommy-douglas


Remaking Saskatchewan

As the Great Depression tightened its grip on the country, communities like Weyburn suffered tremendously. Tommy Douglas knew that his relief efforts – while important – couldn’t provide a lasting answer to the difficulties families were facing. He buried two young men who died because they couldn’t afford medical care, which only strengthened his belief that he could do more as a politician than from the pulpit.


On June 15, 1944, the CCF – which had never held power in the province – swept to victory under Tommy’s leadership, winning 47 of 53 seats. Saskatchewan had just elected the first social democratic government in North America – and Tommy Douglas began the first of five terms as the province’s Premier.

He faced powerful, wealthy opposition, yet Tommy’s government passed more than 100 bills during that first term. Just two years into their mandate, the CCF had eliminated the sales tax on food and meals and reduced the provincial debt by $20 million. While his opponents tried to tar him as a Communist and radical, the CCF under Tommy Douglas paved roads and brought electrical power (and the modern age) to the family farms of Saskatchewan. They improved health care, increased education spending and expanded the University of Saskatchewan to include a medical college.

Pensioners gained free medical, hospital and dental services; everyone gained free treatment for diseases like cancer, tuberculosis and mental illness. In 1947, Saskatchewan introduced universal access to hospitals for an annual fee of five dollars per person.

The CCF created new government departments such as Labour, Social Welfare and Co-operatives. The cabinet took a 28-per-cent pay cut to help pay the costs. A Crown Corporation Act allowed the creation of provincial air and bus lines; marketing boards for natural resources helped those industries grow and benefit rural communities. And SaskTel offered affordable phone service across Saskatchewan.

But it was Saskatchewan Power that had the biggest impact. In 20 years, the Crown corporation increased the number of rural homes hooked up to electrical power from only 300 to 65,000.

Meanwhile, the CCF improved working conditions, raised the minimum wage, established mandatory holidays, set workers’ compensation standards and set the stage for collective bargaining with the Trade Union Act and the creation of a labour relations board. Over four years, union membership more than doubled.

In just over a decade, the CCF administration – by encouraging economic diversification such as potash mining, steel production and petroleum exploration – oversaw the transformation of the province’s economy. Only one out of every five dollars of wealth created in Saskatchewan in 1944 came from somewhere other than agriculture; that proportion more than tripled by 1957.

But Tommy Douglas and his CCF team were also cautious financial managers. While Tommy wanted passionately to make medical care available to all, it wasn’t until 1959 that he decided Saskatchewan’s finances were healthy enough to sustain it.

He announced a plan that would cover every person in Saskatchewan, offering pre-paid, publicly-administered, high-quality health care. At the time, many doctors and their allies decried his medicare plan as dictatorial and vowed never to accept it; by the mid-1960s, it was such a success that Canada adopted it nationwide.

But by the time medicare was enacted in Saskatchewan in 1962, Tommy Douglas had stepped down as Premier. He wanted to take the success he’d had leading the province to a whole new level.

https://sites.google.com/site/tommydouglaswebpage/about-tommy-douglas


T.C. Douglas the 'Greatest Canadian'


By KEVIN BERGER of the Weyburn Review / Weyburn Review
May 5, 2014 02:00 AM

For those who knew the former premier, Douglas was clearly deserving of the title.

"He was here in the years of the dust bowl, the Dirty Thirties, and the people were really down and out. Saskatchewan was hurt the worst in the Depression. And Tommy gave them hope," said Glen Rasmussen, who campaigned for Douglas during two elections.

"He could talk to any man and anyone," said Rasmussen. "He had a great sense of humour. He could warm his crowd up with his jokes and he was a terrific storyteller."

Actor and writer John Nolan, who recently portrayed Douglas in the play "Arrows of Desire," was the host of the party in Weyburn.

Nolan chose Douglas as the inspiration for his play after setting out to find a "great Canadian." After researching many Canadian figures, he subjected them to a list of criteria and found that Douglas met them all, in areas such as legacy and determination in the face of opposition. - See more at: http://www.weyburnreview.com/community/tommy-douglas/t-c-douglas-the-greatest-canadian-1.1457605#sthash.0Q504pAj.dpuf

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. Douglas was in the same stream as Salvador Allende--in the 30s (based on Virchow) medicine
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

was pushed beyond "identifying diseases" and "finding cures" (yes, there's more to medicine than that!) to social factors

Allende noted that Chile's tuberculosis wasn't responding to improved care and treatment, but to improved living and working conditions

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
16. Tommy's genius as an orator
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

Is making a story like Mouseland a clear, concise metaphor to the subject he was addressing; The Cream Separator speech is another one as powerful as Mouseland.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
14. You bet, he was a true hero for the people. I hope we see another before too long.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jan 2016

The group hosts likely decide what gets pinned here, and there are many good items. Thanks, I also think the life and work of Tommy Douglas is relevant now and similar to Bernie Sanders in some ways.



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