DEMOCRATIC DEBATE THREAD #1

[zazen]

Didn't it sound like HRC had just made up those details about modifying ACA in the past two hours?

[zazen]

1. great response by Bernie on guns #1--he shouldn't back down n/t

[darkangel218]

4. The host is being unfair.

Bernie answered. Wtf is wrong with the host??

[Cleita]

12. Republican ass kisser. That's what's wrong with him. eom

[darkangel218]

16. What an asshole he is!!!!

Wtf????

[darkangel218]

27. Lets see if he attacks OM too, but I highly doubt it.

[zazen]

14. yep! n/t

[jwirr]

44. Do you really have to ask? R tool.

[darkangel218]

51. I am not familiar with that person.

I didn't know they were a Repub hack.

Repubs want Hillary to win the nomination, because she will be so easily to beat. It makes sense.

[darkangel218]

2. She did. Not surprising at all!

[gateley]

3. I actually didn't get a chance to listen to her opener --

are you thinking it may be because Bernie released his plan?

[darkangel218]

5. I almost muted her, but my bf is next to me and he wanted to have a laugh.

[Cleita]

6. OMG! Right out of the gate Bernie called Hillary a liar or the

word he actually used was "disingenuous".

They are starting right off with guns, Bernie's weakness. Assholes.

[Kentonio]

10. On the bright side, it gets it out the way quickly.

[darkangel218]

11. I agree. Wtf ...

[darkangel218]

13. And more gun questions.

[Fawke Em]

15. No - that's good.

Get that out of the way at the first.

Let him end on a good note.

I'm sure it will be foreign policy and he's been very good about pointing out how she's been horrible at it.

We're now onto a good point of Bernie's: police reform.

[Fawke Em]

7. Yeah, but what's funny is the answer to her question is:

SINGLE PAYER.

[JonLeibowitz]

32. LOVE IT !!! n/t

[zazen]

8. HRC: "no other industry has been given total pass like gun manufacturers?!"

Except Wall Street!!!!! I hope Bernie Sanders zings her with it.

[darkangel218]

20. And health INSURENCE/big Pharma!

But the health of the nation and a livable wage seem not to matter at the moment to the asshole host!!

WTF!!!!

And even more attacks!!!

[TCJ70]

9. What's the Charleston Loophole?

Or is that something Hillary made up on the spot?

[Fawke Em]

17. I predicted that.

More info: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128097608

[JonLeibowitz]

18. It's a loophole that didn't even apply in the Charleston massacre. More lies from camp Hillary.

[zazen]

19. reporter is being such a jerk: ha! Bernie talking about polling!! n/t

[darkangel218]

21. He's being a major class asshole. WTF???!!??

[retrowire]

22. They are brazenly giving her all the stage time to speak.

Really hating these moderators.

[valerief]

29. They're NBCComcast moderators. nt

[Cleita]

31. Mrs. Greenspan isn't going to be neutral, I don't think.

However, I don't think she likes any of them.

[Enthusiast]

144. I agree. They were so obviously biased.

[onecaliberal]

23. Uhm, WallStreet got the biggest pass we' so ever seen.

[fleur-de-lisa]

24. Bernie is killin' it re: gun rights!

Hillary is such a smug jerk, she thought she had that sown up! NOT!

[tk2kewl]

25. "let me tell you about polling..."

[doc03]

26. I would like to hear them bring up the ocupation of the bird sanctuary and what

would happen if it was a left wing group doing the same.

[retrowire]

28. Hillary goes on a tirade about young black men being jailed disproportionately.

Won't legalize marijuana. lol, Hillary, it'll be your fault.

[fleur-de-lisa]

33. Yep! eom

[darkangel218]

34. Don't expect common sense from her, really.

My bf got a good laugh because of that. She contradicts herself.

I would laugh too, but I'm pissed at the host

[pangaia]

42. The thing is, how many people caught that?

[darkangel218]

47. We did. So I assume almost everyone who is familiar with her contradictory views.

Funny that she won't even try to hide her two face agenda.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

133. And her husband is one --

of the people who helped load up the jails in the first place. The irony of her rant didn't bypass me.

[BigBearJohn]

30. cant stand these moderators -- obviously on Hillary's side

[darkangel218]

38. Same here.

If they continue attacking Bernie and talking over him, I think I'll just go for a bike ride. Screw this shit.

[Dretownblues]

35. I hate this format

Why are they not asking all of them the same question? It seems stupid way to run a debate

[darkangel218]

39. Because they obviously have a bias!

It was obvious in the first 2 minutes.

[Dretownblues]

45. Of course they do

It just still seems like a weird format. Ugh I guess I should have seem this coming as well as the lovefest with Clinton afterwards.

[retrowire]

36. So only Bernie has to answer that YouTube question? nt

[Fawke Em]

37. They gave her the heroin question?

She's the ONLY person who's brought that up. It's like they asked her a softball she wanted to answer. Ugh.

[retrowire]

40. I'm glad it was passed to Bernie at least. nt

[JimDandy]

50. Yep...in fact the questions to all 3 have been choosen

with her candidacy in mind.

[Blue_In_AK]

41. Hillary has an arrogance about her

that really bugs me. It's not so much what she says as how she says it.

[pangaia]

46. Body language says a lot. Watch her head, chin, eyes, mouth..

[MissDeeds]

75. Yep

The freaking bobble head,evil eyed twit isn't winning the hearts and minds. I loathe her.

[retrowire]

43. Hillary laughed at O'Malley's unsuccessful attempt to get 10 more seconds.

Good sport Hillary.

[darkangel218]

49. ...

Thats what I feel at the moment in regard to her.

[Cleita]

56. Me too.

I have noticed her spin lie after lie all day and she keeps doing it. It doesn't sit well with me.

[MissDeeds]

106. Me too

She's the worst the party has to offer. What a pathetic pos.

[Dretownblues]

48. Did anyone pick up

On what Hillary said during her healthcare talk. I'm paraphrasing but it was something like" and I'll make sure they don't take too much money out of your pockets". Whaaaaa

[MissDeeds]

52. I've never seen such biased moderating

F' me!!!

[darkangel218]

55. Same here..

Wtf..

[MissDeeds]

59. We need to email the crap out of NBC

and MSNBC tomorrow. This is egregious!

[darkangel218]

64. MSNBC has become a Trump lounge.

Haven't you noticed yet? They won't do shit!

I'm so mad right now.. Brb.

[jwirr]

77. Get us the email address.

[PADemD]

110. Email Here

To report an error or comment on NBCNews.com or an NBC News program, please email [e-mail]

[draa]

53. Hahaha,

Bernie said: "Sec Clinton didn't answer your question."

God I love that man. Give 'em hell Bernie.

[retrowire]

54. I was just listening to Hillary talk about healthcare...

She was stealing lines right out of Bernie's healthcare plan that he laid out hours ago!

[darkangel218]

57. Yes.

She will do anything to *win* her crown.

Too bad we are not that stupid.

[retrowire]

58. Get er' Bernie! We are not tearing up the ACA, we helped fucking write it!

You did NOTHING HILLARY. NOTHING.

Ugh, she really wants the last word on this shit. Bernie's plan is immaculate!

IT'S NOT STARTING OVER AGAIN. HILLARY STFU.

[RedCappedBandit]

60. Bernie just ripped Hillary to shreds on health care.

She has nothing to say. Completely disingenuous.

[Fawke Em]

61. Cry, cry, whine, whine: We can't do any better.

Of course not, Hillary, not when people like you are in charge.

[pangaia]

62. Hillary's thing tonight is We can't START ALL OVER AGAIN !!

[wilsonbooks]

63. Bernie just killed it on Health care

[Fawke Em]

67. And is STILL killing it

We need the GUTS to stand up to the pharmaceutical industry and the SuperPACs.

And, she goes back to mealy mouthed crap.

[retrowire]

65. You might wanna ask the governor of the state of vermont, I'm not the governor. I'm the Senator.

SLAM.

Bernie you've got this.

[grntuscarora]

66. HRC's position on ACA--it's slightly better.

So what's your problem, plebes?

Let her have it, Bernie.

[retrowire]

68. It's the fact that she keeps spinning it like Bernie wants to destroy ACA

and "Set us back"

Lying.

[Fawke Em]

69. Better Hillary: We can't do that or we'd have no money for the

wars I want to start.

[wilsonbooks]

70. now is the time for the kill shot

and point out that hil gets her money from the insurance and pharma companies

[darkangel218]

71. He won't say it.

He has too much class.

But he should. Screw her lies!!!!!!

[Cleita]

72. HILLARY NEVER STOOD UP TO THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY!

SHE WENT OUT OF HER WAY TO ACCOMODATE THEM WITH HILLARY CARE!

I have been following the health care issue for that long and it's not true.

[demwing]

73. I have just hit my Hillary threshhold

I can not support her as a candidate, because I do not support liars. If membership at DU requires me to support liars, then it isn't worth the cost of admission.

[darkangel218]

79. I would never support her either.

Screw this shit.

[darkangel218]

74. OMG, another attack from the asshole host?!!!!

"How can you win if you call yourself a democratic socialist"?

What a fuking jerk!!!

[MissDeeds]

84. We really, really need to unleash hell

on NBC and msnbc tomorrow. The debate moderators are incredibly biased. I've never seen anything like it! Bernie and Martin are interrupted time and time again, and she can talk as long as she wants! Wth???

[global1]

76. This Thread Is In The Bernie Sanders Group & There's Another Debate Thread ....

under primaries. Bernie is getting slammed over there and we need to get some of us Bernie supporters there to refute some of the barbs they are throwing at him. It's looking like the Hillary people are out in force there.

[retrowire]

80. I'm sure we'll all hash it out over the next week.

The infighting now won't be won. Just be patient.

[global1]

87. I'm Just Saying The Other Debate Post Needs Some Balancing Out....

It's pretty much one sided and we need to point out when Bernie scores some points.
I'm not looking to create infighting - only to show the other side of an issue that is bent out of shape by the bending of the truth and spinning.

[Cleita]

91. Yeesh! No thanks. eom

[Blue_In_AK]

102. I don't give a care.

I'd rather be here with friends.

[darkangel218]

81. After listening to Hillary, the last thing I want to do is interact with her minions.

No thanks.

[wilsonbooks]

78. He is just dominating the debate.

Totally

[retrowire]

82. "I hope that I'll have their vote when I'm the nominee."

Hillary, you won't be the nominee if you don't have their support.

Basic math. Not hard.

[PADemD]

83. Lester Holt is annoying.

He keeps interrupting, especially Bernie.

[pangaia]

85. I can not watch it any more.

I'll just stay here... Thanks for all who can stick it out and report.

[Cleita]

112. It's hard, isn't it? eom

[haikugal]

145. I quit and gave up within 10 min.

They gave her all the time and were incredibly biased. Bernie was great but I couldn't stand watching her smug entitled smirky lying face and was shouting at the tv. Not healthy. We will fight them...we will not give up or give in. This is just the beginning. She's building a machine, we're building a movement.

I'm happy to be among friends.

[leftcoastmountains]

88. Go Bernie Go!!!

Wow she's attacking him tonight isn't she? Fearful isn't she?!!

[Fawke Em]

89. Were the "boos" because a Democrat took speaking fees from Goldman Sachs

or because he brought up that she took them?

If its the latter, why would any Democrat boo that?

[retrowire]

90. "Bernie doesn't like Obama!"

...So? Why the fuck is that a big deal anyways?

[zazen]

92. WTF--pandering to Black audience by pitting Bernie against Obama

[darkangel218]

95. Among all other biases.

Now she had 10 secs and she's turning it into 10 mins and the mod is not interrupting her!!!!

[Cleita]

97. The same old bag of cheap tricks. n/t

[retrowire]

98. I didn't wanna say it, but that's what I got from it. nt

[Blue_In_AK]

93. Oh, lord, what a lie, Hillary.

[leftcoastmountains]

94. She just said that Bernie was a little strange! Really?

[jwirr]

111. I hope to heaven that the American people are using their

brains tonight. She is pulling out every trick in the book.

[Fawke Em]

96. Good Lord, woman, stop race-baiting.

Bringing up Obama taking money from the big banks to try to win black votes is low. LOW!

She's really a you-know-what.

[Babel_17]

120. Thankfully it looked very obvious

Clinton is turning off those with doubts about her. The Wall Street connection is obvious, and she looked pinned under the lights when O'Malley took her on.

Edit: lol, Todd practically rolled his eyes when referring to Clinton wrapping herself in Obama.

[leftcoastmountains]

99. O'Malley says Hillary lies!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

100. Wow she just unloaded --

the biggest pile of utter SHIT about Bernie on finance that I have ever heard!

[Fawke Em]

101. And Thank God Martin is going after her.

Let Bernie rest.

[Cleita]

105. She's making Carly Fiorini look like the nice one. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

117. THAT is quite the accomplishment. :O

That was pretty ugly to witness, primarily because it was a whole lotta BUNK. I appreciate a good, honest, righteous rant -- with HONEST being the operative word.

[restorefreedom]

103. i am not watching

but following sm. looks like bernie is killin it

by 11pm the m$m will say she won definitively.

[leftcoastmountains]

104. Bernie attacks again! Go Bernie Go!!!

[leftcoastmountains]

107. Let Bernie speak!

[MissDeeds]

109. This thing is so biased its criminal

What a travesty

[grntuscarora]

113. Agreed.

Andrea Mitchell is really showing her colors, imo.

[MissDeeds]

118. And Lester Holt

I used to like him. I'm not sure what's going on - did the hosts get their talking points or are they just 'going rogue'? Really, it's bizarre - so biased!

[grntuscarora]

108. She's really a consummate liar.

Few do it better.

[Cleita]

114. Her nose would be reaching the end of the auditorium

by now if she were Pinnochio.

[glinda]

143. good one

[MissDeeds]

126. I will never vote for her.

If she becomes the nominee, then I am no longer a Democrat, and I come from many generations of Democrats. She does not represent me or my party. She is the embodiment of a neo-con, and everything that my family and I have worked against.

[darkangel218]

115. Hillary just now:

"He he he he he!!"

[wilsonbooks]

116. Bernie owns this debate.

The other 2 might as well not be on the stage. I have never seen anything like it.

[Blue_In_AK]

119. But the pundits will say she took it.

[darkangel218]

121. Fuck MSNBC.

I will boicot them from now on. Fuck their biased shit.

[MissDeeds]

129. We need to let them know

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This is blatant and egregious. Mrs Greenspan has no place being there, and Lester Holt is a massive disappointment and sell out.

[darkangel218]

132. Yes, we can do that.

But nothing will change.

I would rather just straight up boicot them. More letters means to them that people are watching.

[Fawke Em]

122. But the M$M will call it for Hillary 10 minutes after it's over.

[darkangel218]

127. Of course. Look at how much time she gets!!!

And they are cutting Bernie every single time!

[wilsonbooks]

137. Nobody watching this debate could honestly believe that she won it.

The media will of course try to spin it.

[Babel_17]

123. Young voters will be hurling at Clinton's artifice

Though this might help her in SC with the establishment there. She's looking tough. Not very likable, but tough. Voters might want her as their pit bull. The trust issue might undo that though. Gotta be able to trust your pit bull.

[Fawke Em]

124. And they might be tired of hearing her

"fill in the number" point plan to do whatever.

[Babel_17]

134. It's hard to rate her performance when you know it's based on a construct

How much benefit of the doubt are people giving her? I suspect that though she might be slighter higher on the slope to being nominated, the ground under her is the slipperiest. People are worn out by her bullshyte.

[Cleita]

128. The Millenials won't buy this at all.

I talk to them all the time when I volunteer at the local Democratic headquarters. They are huge Bernie supporters.

[Babel_17]

135. Tonight can only help! :) nt

[Blue_In_AK]

125. Trying to steal John Kerry's thunder?

[Cleita]

130. There it is. Hillary wants to be Commander in Chief.

She thinks she's the only one who can do it. Shows her hawkish side very clearly.

[Fawke Em]

131. Iranian Troops?

Where the hell did she pull that from?

He's said Saudi and Jordan.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

136. wall street again!

Goldman Sachs mentioned again.Pound em Bernie!!

[Babel_17]

139. And if you care about them, the choice for our nominee is obvious

Primary by primary, the voters will know who stands where. Clinton has made her bed, and she can't unmake it.

[grntuscarora]

138. Bernie's pounding his message home tonight!

No distractions for him!

Go, Bernie!!

[Babel_17]

140. If they were guests on CNN, representing their wing of the party, ...

If they were guests on CNN, representing their wing of the party, Clinton could be said to doing very well.

But they're not, they want to be our nominee for President, and Sanders is much more believable as being the one to live up to our expectations.

[Babel_17]

141. Todd was lol at Clinton wrapping herself in Obama

Eugene Robinson agreed with him. I'm getting the sense that they are seeing Sanders as having done well in surviving a rigorous test of fire.

[Lazy Daisy]

142. If I had to do a shot

Every time Hillary said President Obama I'd have alcohol poisoning. She trying to ride his coat tails?