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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:38 AM Jan 2016

Winners and losers from the fourth Democratic presidential debate

Please don't faint
by Chris Cillizza

Winners
* Bernie Sanders: Yes, Sanders has one volume: shouting. And, yes, he got tripped up a few times during the debate on his voting record -- especially on guns. But throughout the debate's first hour -- the hour when most people, especially on the East Coast and in the Midwest, were watching -- he was the prime mover in virtually every discussion from Wall Street reform to health care to climate change. He was on offense, accusing rival Hillary Clinton of half-measures and political caution at a moment when boldness is required.

Sanders held his own in the foreign-policy-focused second hour of the debate, something he had not done in debates past. And he had one of his best moments of the exchange at an unlikely time -- in response to a question about his criticism of Bill Clinton's past behavior. Sanders turned the question into one focused on how the campaign he is running is about policy, not personal differences -- to much applause.

More than anything he said, though, it was the passion and disruption that Sanders oozed from every pore over the two hours that should push Democrats on the fence about the race into his camp. Sanders effectively positioned himself as the anti-status-quo candidate, a very good position to have in this electoral environment.

Hillary
(snip)
So, why is she in the loser column? Because she did nothing in the debate to slow the momentum that Sanders is building in Iowa and New Hampshire. Aside from guns, where Clinton scored a clean hit on Sanders, she was unable to effectively cast him as a pie-in-the-sky idealist and herself as the only person who could truly fight -- and win -- for Democratic priorities.

Time and again, she found herself boxed into defending a status quo that the American public -- Democrats and Republicans alike -- are dissatisfied with. This tweet from the New York Times Nicholas Kristof perfectly captures that sentiment:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/17/winners-and-losers-from-the-4th-democratic-presidential-debate/?tid=sm_tw

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Winners and losers from the fourth Democratic presidential debate (Original Post) cal04 Jan 2016 OP
K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #1
Biggest losers: the American people. Because the debate was scheduled valerief Jan 2016 #2
Bernie was brilliant! Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #3
I thought Bernie was GREAT! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #4
Whoa! The corrupt corporate MSM must see a President Sanders on the horizon and in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #5

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. Biggest losers: the American people. Because the debate was scheduled
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jan 2016

during a horrible slot. People would watch had it been on a weekday, non-holiday evening.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
5. Whoa! The corrupt corporate MSM must see a President Sanders on the horizon and
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jan 2016

want access to him.

I'm actually shocked that someone actually reported the TRUTH!

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