Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,211 posts)on their "fainting couches" in total apoplexy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
defacto7
(13,485 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)I hope that once the primaries begin that he can emerge as a real contender.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
efhmc
(14,725 posts)but I think that a country that "elected" Trump will not vote for him. I have no confidence in my country any more to vote for the better leader.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)But here we are.
Well, read some Coates and he will explain why he knew we would get Trump, but you get my point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Chipper Chat
(9,676 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Great photograph!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
femmedem
(8,201 posts)I'm straight, and I live in a city which had an openly gay mayor, but it made me tear up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IndyOp
(15,512 posts)but whatever happens, we're lucky he's had the courage to run.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,227 posts)I just wish I had the confidence of many of you here. Sadly I don't believe that the country is ready to vote for him. I would loved to be proven wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrank
(11,092 posts)No matter what happens on the Democratic Party side, this is so right.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Right after my husband of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,155 posts)and frankly not my first choice at this point, this cover I am going to have to go buy. I am amazed I lived to see this happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)Homophobia is definitely its own thing, and the whole "ick factor" of straight insecure males being terrified that they're going to be hit on by other guys... or that their daughters are going to take to comfy shoes and shack up with another woman... is rooted in its own existential inadequacy.
But homophobia is ALSO rooted, very deeply, in patriarchy, which rigidly defines gender roles, assigning them based on the supposed 'superiority' of the male and the 'inferiority' of the female.
The whole "traditional marriage is one man and one woman" thing goes back to that patriarchal requirement, heavily bolstered by (in the Abrahamic religious tradition and particularly the Catholic and Orthodox Churches) the tangled legal and economic webs of property assignment and inheritance.
I remember my genuinely ignorant but truly well-intentioned grandmother asking my gay sister, after she came out, "but if you and another woman are together, which one of you is the man?"
Cue a whole range of half-scared, half-mocking comments and queries about "tops" and "bottoms" in gay and kink relationships and a whole range of misogynist and patriarchally-fixated assumptions about "pitchers" and "catchers" in gay male relationships.
The assumption that a patriarchal misogynist culture has attempted to hardwire into us is that in any relationship involving sex, there is one party who "does it to" the other party. And the implication there is that the "doing it to" party is "the man" in the relationship, and the "done to" party is "the woman" in the relationship.
Gay people- and kink people- know that's bullshit. And that's a huge part of the reason that such sexual relationships have been outlawed and regarded as transgressive. It squicks the hell out of people who think in the patriarchal misogynist mindset that any two people in a relationship that includes sexual intimacy might actually both "do it" to each other and have it "done to" them in equal measure as their fancy dictates at any given time. That there might be a regular exchange of roles, and that power as expressed in sexual giving and receiving, soliciting and responding, might not be dictated by gender AT ALL!
HORRORS!!
And that is an often-unspoken but deep-rooted part of the objection to gay marriage- it does, indeed, 'destroy' the "traditional marriage" model in which gender dictates who does what and why.
Every gay marriage is also a blow at misogyny. I'm delighted for us all.
appreciatively,
Bright
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)Thank you for your eloquent and very accurate words!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,633 posts)...but you, Bright, are obviously awake and woke. Good morning, Sunshine!
Now, off to check the 200 y.o. California oak I am temporary steward of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cartoonist
(7,314 posts)Thanks for teaching me that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,418 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Why is it the truth, when presented, always seems so obvious, so obvious as to convince me that I always knew it.. or thought of it myself.... ?
Yes, please make it an OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tarc
(10,476 posts)and 85 kids "caught gay" just by looking at the cover!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
defacto7
(13,485 posts)and 85 kids just saw a picture of the diversity in human love.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,915 posts)so that he doesn't get skeered by the gayz.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)or, using this as an educational moment you are offering an invitation?.....
who knows, they might either like it, or at least find it isn't near as bad as alleged.....
I do understand the sentiment, but otherwise it is a supporter of the 1st gay candidate using a gay slur against those who hate gays. I cringe every time I hear, or read someone using that insult.
Sometimes I am SUCH a delicate flower......
but I know your heart is in the right place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nycbos
(6,034 posts)It is delightful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)They have their own Twitter account... ..of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
captain jack
(316 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
efhmc
(14,725 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,198 posts)A lot of guys don't do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I am tired of hearing, "the country isn't ready for
which appears at least once in this thread
I so often hear this phrase stated in utter 'sleep', 'automatically,' with no 'thought' or 'consciousness.' Like any thoughtless mindlessly regurgitated statement.. such as self-avowed socialist. Somebody on the stupid machine says it and suddenly the sleeping masses follow along like a bunch of mindless sheep.
Come on friends, THAT is what mindless republicans do.. Thats why they are republicans. Those same mindless walking empty heads who call themselves Christians. What is one of the most often used phrases/ideas in the New Testament? (and I am NO Bible expert whatsoever)........................ Wake Up, Sleepers awake, know thyself.. all with the same aim. To really, factually WAKE UP!
Back to this particular case-- "the country isn't ready for
--- There IS NO country, in that sense. PLUS, the country wasnt ready for a black guy (especially one with big ears AND a really big brain!) or a woman, with another really big brain- ESPECIALLY a big brain. ( Of course she actually won, but thats another story. )
Were smarter than that, or we wouldnt be here.
WHEW! That was a lot and I havent even finished my 1st cup of coffee. I am Undecided, but GO PETE and CHASTEN !!!! Let's stick it too 'em !!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
question everything
(47,465 posts)The only recent first family without a pet is - Trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Buddy and Truman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BigOleDummy
(2,270 posts)is someone I could and would vote for in a second. Been saying for weeks a Warren/Buttigieg ticket is my ideal dream pair. I get more impressed by this guy every time I see and hear him. Smart, Articulate, Caring and a Veteran to boot! Too bad those qualities mean jack squat with the creeps on the other side of the aisle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trickyguy
(769 posts)I'm totally proud of Mayor Pete and Chasten. They do our community a distinct service.
I've sent him money more as a token of my appreciation for his candidacy. But...
can't say I see him becoming POTUS. However, he definitely has a place in the Democratic Party
both now and for many years to come. Go Pete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)to get publicity is stunning. He went from "Who?" to magazine cover of Time in an incredibly short period of time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden