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Hickenlooper rally at Denver Civic Ctr Park announced for March 7 (Original Post) hlthe2b Mar 2019 OP
I think he'll be a 2%er in this. MineralMan Mar 2019 #1
As a fellow Coloradan, I agree - to a point. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #2
Exactly so... RobertDevereaux Mar 2019 #4
His oil and gas stances bothered me too, but even more so because the CO SCourt upheld a lot of it. hlthe2b Mar 2019 #7
Hickenwho? CDerekGo Mar 2019 #3
Told ya... brooklynite Mar 2019 #5
You did! Byronic Mar 2019 #6
What's his niche? Garrett78 Mar 2019 #8
apparently.... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #10
Then he won't stand out. Not in a field with Biden, Klobuchar, etc. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #11
One other thought, though. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #9
 

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
1. I think he'll be a 2%er in this.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:07 PM
Mar 2019

I think there are several of those already running already.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
2. As a fellow Coloradan, I agree - to a point.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:18 PM
Mar 2019

Hick is OK, but he lost me when big oil came in around 2010 and started throwing its weight around. Do you know, the State was sending cease-and-desist orders to the Locals demanding we not impose any additional 'job killin' regulashuns' on fracking because the State had it in hand.

Needless to say, Colorado's fierce local control mentality won out and we did in fact impose other regulations. For instance Nancy Jackson (D), Arapahoe County commissioner, forced companies fracking along the I-70 corridor into the eastern plains to used closed loop fracking.

When Hick stood at the podium that one time and drank fracking fluid, I exercised my right as a Colorado citizen and called up his office - told them that if he wanted to convince me fracking fluid is safe enough to drink, then he would need to go visit a just-fracked site and slurp up some of the backwash. The person on the other end of the line became a little cold, but you know what? The State doesn't get to come in and swing its weight around with local governments on something like that.

Bottom line, I don't really support Hickenlooper for president, nor do I support him for US Senate. Johnston is going to throw his hat in the ring to challenge Gardner, or so I hear, and I wouldn't mind seeing Morgan Carroll challenge as well - though she isn't that great a campaigner. We'll see how it plays out, but I'll guarantee you I'll be doing everything I can to unseat Cory Gardner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RobertDevereaux

(1,856 posts)
4. Exactly so...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:27 PM
Mar 2019

His kowtowing to Oil and Gas dampened the enthusiasm of this Fort Collins resident.

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hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
7. His oil and gas stances bothered me too, but even more so because the CO SCourt upheld a lot of it.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:41 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. What's his niche?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:15 PM
Mar 2019

If you're a huge underdog, you have to find a way to stand out. For Inslee, it's a focus on climate change. What's Hickenlooper's niche?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
10. apparently....
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:32 PM
Mar 2019
“I think he has a lane: that lane is of a pragmatic, pro-trade business-oriented Democrat who has a very progressive social record, and a more centrist view of economic issues,” said Alan Salazar, a former Hickenlooper strategist in Colorado.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/hickenlooper-colorado-2020-democrats-842596

While I have differences with him, I will say that even on issues with which he disagreed vehemently, he was open to changing his mind and to work to match the will of the people. One big example is recreational marijuana, which he initially opposed. Once the ballot measure passed, he arguably showed the skilled leadership necessary to make Colorado the "gold standard" for regulating the industry and to address the many and myriad issues that develop. Most of the states now looking to legalize have patterned their efforts around those of Colorado.

Local rule over fracking was a big issue for me and many others... While he initially fought it tooth and nail, he's lost some and won some battles. He seems to take both in stride.

Truth in advertising, I'm neither a supporter or an opponent. I don't see him making a big splash in this crowded field, but I do hope he has a future--perhaps in a Democratic cabinet.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. Then he won't stand out. Not in a field with Biden, Klobuchar, etc.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:40 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
9. One other thought, though.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:15 PM
Mar 2019

Given that Trump is currently squatting illegally and treasonously in the White House, Hickenlooper would in fact be an order of magnitude better as a president. He just wouldn't be my first choice is all. But he'd be OK.

I mean...let's keep things in perspective here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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