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prodigitalson

(2,399 posts)
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:14 PM May 2019

Which had you rather do next year?

Last edited Fri May 3, 2019, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Win

or

Spend months telling people "Yeah, but it's DEMOCRATIC socialism"

And his 🍯 🌕 in the USSR "ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Which had you rather do next year? (Original Post) prodigitalson May 2019 OP
Please be more specific uawchild May 2019 #1
Explaining different types of socialism to general election voters prodigitalson May 2019 #4
"I'd rather get rid of Trump that try to put low info voters through grad school" uawchild May 2019 #5
People who will start paying attention in Sept. of 2020 prodigitalson May 2019 #6
Educational system has already failed core Trump voters NYMinute May 2019 #14
There are a lot of "low info" voters, maybe under informed would have been better, but.... George II May 2019 #22
I agree mtnsnake May 2019 #8
Hee Hee Hee. murielm99 May 2019 #2
Do I understand what you will be saying here? Cary May 2019 #3
I'm down with both. aikoaiko May 2019 #7
They are mutually exclusive imho nt prodigitalson May 2019 #9
I couldn't decipher the emojis in your OP nt NYMinute May 2019 #10
honeymoon nt prodigitalson May 2019 #11
well duh .. I am so dumb at times nt NYMinute May 2019 #12
Nah, that moon emoji could be more lunar. nt prodigitalson May 2019 #21
If Sanders wins the nomination.... WeekiWater May 2019 #13
If Sanders wins the nomination NYMinute May 2019 #15
I agree that he will not have coattails. That was one of my points. WeekiWater May 2019 #16
I get your "no coattails" NYMinute May 2019 #17
Agree with every word of your post. NT WeekiWater May 2019 #19
If it is a choice between being Woke or winning, I pick winning Gothmog May 2019 #18
Michael Steele melman May 2019 #20
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
1. Please be more specific
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:16 PM
May 2019

please expand on your op

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

prodigitalson

(2,399 posts)
4. Explaining different types of socialism to general election voters
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:22 PM
May 2019

is probably not the best use of our time and resources in the presidential election. I'd rather get rid of Trump that try to put low info voters through grad school.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
5. "I'd rather get rid of Trump that try to put low info voters through grad school"
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:54 PM
May 2019

Really? Condescend much? lol

Isn't "low info voters" a pejorative? okie dokie, let's not fill their heads with issues then? lol

Call me an optimist but I do think voters do grasp the details of issues that are important to them, its our job to select a candidate that addresses their concerns.

Cheers

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

prodigitalson

(2,399 posts)
6. People who will start paying attention in Sept. of 2020
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:02 PM
May 2019

and make their decision in late Oct. is who I'm talking about.

And my biggest concern to be addressed is getting rid of Trump.

And his honeymoon in the Soviet Union isn't gonna help explaining his socialism to those people. Well actually it might, but not in a helpful way. That shit is gonna leave a mark.

And yes, I am very arrogant and condescending. Just as the gods made me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
14. Educational system has already failed core Trump voters
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:25 PM
May 2019

I doubt they are suddenly going to have a lightbulb moment.

The association of socialism with communism is very powerful and Bernie's own praise of Cuba and defense of Venezuela will seal the deal for them.

I think that the people outside Trump's core supporters may be persuaded by a mainstream "known quantity" candidate like Joe Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. There are a lot of "low info" voters, maybe under informed would have been better, but....
Fri May 3, 2019, 08:10 PM
May 2019

....this brings back when I was making calls for Dan Malloy for his first Governor election campaign. It was going to be close, so they had us working right up to 8:00 when the polls closed, reminding people to get out and vote. One woman I spoke to about 7:00 said "I don't feel like going out tonight, maybe I'll vote tomorrow or Thursday"!!! Unfortunately we have way too many people who are "low info" like that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
8. I agree
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:14 PM
May 2019

and you are right about low info voters. The country has more than its fair share of them, and trying to educate that particular segment of voters about the benefits of certain aspects of social programs would be in one ear and out the other. The priority is to beat Trump no matter what else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cary

(11,746 posts)
3. Do I understand what you will be saying here?
Fri May 3, 2019, 02:19 PM
May 2019

In the correct tense I will cross that bridge if I get there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

prodigitalson

(2,399 posts)
9. They are mutually exclusive imho nt
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
10. I couldn't decipher the emojis in your OP nt
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:18 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
12. well duh .. I am so dumb at times nt
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:20 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

prodigitalson

(2,399 posts)
21. Nah, that moon emoji could be more lunar. nt
Fri May 3, 2019, 05:29 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
13. If Sanders wins the nomination....
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:22 PM
May 2019

It's his job to explain his platform and win. That doesn't mean we can't help without having to sell something we don't want to sell. There is more than one race coming up.

There is something people like myself will be doing all over the country that will hopefully carry him. If Sanders gets the nod I will be working strictly for down ticket democrats. Sanders won't have coattails and our efforts will be the only thing that will continue the blue wave. If we each work hard enough locally we will carry Sanders across the finish line. I will sure as hell tell each person I talk to about local candidates to make sure they vote for Sanders as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
15. If Sanders wins the nomination
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
May 2019

he will have negative coattails. We will lose the house and the senate once Trump and republicans are done framing him. For his ambitious plans he will have to raise taxes or cut defense spending -- both are radioactive outside extreme liberal circles.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
16. I agree that he will not have coattails. That was one of my points.
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:36 PM
May 2019

But politically active people on the left won't just slither away. Our efforts will be more emphasized on down ticket races. That additional emphasis will have an impact on down ticket races. If people slink away from the whole process because Sanders wins the nomination that really says something about us. We don't have to fight for Sanders in order to help carry Sanders or prove down ticket gains. Yes, it will be harder.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
17. I get your "no coattails"
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:43 PM
May 2019

I was going further with NEGATIVE coattails because a lot of centrist Democrats in middle America and South may stay home if Sanders is the nominee - which will be a net negative for whoever is running there for house or senate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
19. Agree with every word of your post. NT
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:57 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,063 posts)
18. If it is a choice between being Woke or winning, I pick winning
Fri May 3, 2019, 03:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
20. Michael Steele
Fri May 3, 2019, 04:02 PM
May 2019

You mean former RNC chairman Michael Steele? lolol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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