Biden Thinks Trump Is the Problem, Not All Republicans. Other Democrats Disagree.

[saidsimplesimon]

Bolded text is the GOP 2020 Presidential Election argument. Our candidate needs an alternative message that stands up, tall and proud with a Democratic vision for moving forward. imo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-thinks-trump-is-the-problem-not-all-republicans-other-democrats-disagree/ar-AAATspR

The New York Times

Biden Thinks Trump Is the Problem, Not All Republicans. Other Democrats Disagree.

Shane Goldmacher 5/4/19

Early polls show why Mr. Biden would want to elide any disagreements. Only 23 percent of Democrats said he had the “best policy ideas” in a recent poll by Quinnipiac University. But 56 percent of Democrats said he had the best chance of defeating Mr. Trump.

Some Democrats say the idea of trying to predict electability and casting Mr. Trump as an “aberration” was tried by Mrs. Clinton in 2016 — and it failed.

“I feel like the party went through this and the 2016 election showed that Trumpism isn’t just Donald Trump — it’s the entire Republican Congress, too,” said Rebecca Katz, a progressive Democratic strategist unaligned in the 2020 contest. “Until there is someone in the Republican Party who can stand up to Trump, then none of them are better than Trump.”

Republicans aligned with Mr. Trump say that, whatever the president’s failings, he has overseen a growing economy, the appointment of a vast array of conservative judges and a huge tax cut. They note that they offer dissent when they disagree with his policies; Mr. Trump recently suffered setbacks on his desired nominations to the Federal Reserve, for example, because of Republican opposition.

[mtnsnake]

1. Well, Biden is wrong about that. All Republicans are the problem, just like what Rebecca Katz said.

Interesting post. Thanks for posting it.

[saidsimplesimon]

5. My pleasure

Thank you for reading and commenting.

[Kurt V.]

2. Clinton was right to think of trump was an aberration. all the rethugs in the primaries and all

of America thought so too. biden has seen what has happened since so should be a bit wiser.

[empedocles]

4. Also in 2018 20 seat gains came from red districts, those seats

are precarious anti trump seats, not green aspiration seats.

[saidsimplesimon]

15. I would posit it is not just

anti-trump sentiment that won the day for the Democratic Party. Just as in 2018, we must up our ground game and make sure we create enthusiasm that will get like minded voters to the polls.

The entire Republican leadership is the cause of our decline in civility. We must hold them accountable. Don't let them twist the issue so that it becomes Dems "hate rump and therefore they must hate all Republicans". imo

[Indygram]

23. Beto is building a massive ground game and he inspires people

He has a message of unity as well. He doesn't attack Trump by name or his voters. What he does do is attack the behaviors that are disgusting and says WE need to change this. He makes it EVERYONE'S responsibility to change and fix it, no matter your party or where you are from because we ALL need to come together and fix these things.

[Voltaire2]

7. Well no, Trump is an aberration only in that he is an unmitigated asshole.

But please tell me which policies Trump has enacted that are outside of current mainstream Republican ideology.

[Kurt V.]

10. overt racism, family separation, muslim ban.. oh never mind

[Drunken Irishman]

3. I feel Biden is smart to play it like this...

There was a point made in one of my messages that a point in the campaign that hurt Hillary was her mentioning of the basket of deplorables. It dragged on her campaign. I think Biden's message of focusing on Trump, attacking Trump, but not going after his supporters, is a wise choice.

[UniteFightBack]

17. He is saying : I'll be the president for all Americans. He's running like it's the general. nt

[empedocles]

6. Not just playing safe, playing for long coattails, which are very important for getting

things done.

[TeamPooka]

8. Wrong! as John McLaughlin used to shout. nt

[Eko]

9. I dont deal in absolutes.

Nothing is all good or all bad.

[walkingman]

11. I have lost respect for all Republicans for not standing up to Trump. However, I'll mention my

least favorites. Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, Michael Cloud - my Congressmen are all deplorable.

[Nuggets]

12. Imho this was Obama's

biggest failure too. The failure to see that there is not good in everyone, that some people are very good at presenting a great image but deep inside they are nothing but purely selfish people who will leave a trail of victims behind them. They enjoy watching others suffer and they will never have compassion or empathy for others. Mitch McConnell is the poster child for this kind of personality.


The idea that everyone has good in them is what keeps people who are abused in bad relationships. It’s too much hope. It’s wishful, comforting thinking

[Amimnoch]

13. It's the smart thing for a leader to say.

Blaming a constituency is a sure way to energize it against you.

I disagree, I suspect off the record so does he, but as a leading candidate applying to be the leader of the country, it is the correct position to take.

Remember “deplorables”.. totally accurate. Totally fitting. Totally justified. Totally became a rally cry for them in their attacks on her.

[Thomas Hurt]

14. Biden is trying to make nice with people who care exactly dick about playing nice.

The conservative base has made him a semi-divine prophet. A little blasphemy from the family values crowd to go with hypocrisy.

Those who don't like him, still condone him and his actions because he is carrying out or trying to carry out the dogmatic conservative playbook. They aren't going to admit to disliking him.

[Drunken Irishman]

19. Biden is trying to not pull a Hillary...

Hillary went after Trump's supporters and it backfired - even if what she said was true. Democrats can't fall into that trap. Especially if some voters are on the fence about supporting Trump.

[NYMinute]

16. It is easier to isolate Trump and his core supporters as a problem

Indicting all republicans sounds reckless and we will turn off center and center-right independents, a lot of whom hold conservative positions but intensely hate Trump.

This election is going to be a war fought for every single vote and it is not intended to provide satisfaction to our inner feelings.

Biden is 100% correct in this. Lofty slogans and idealistic platitudes are good for candidates to who are sure they would lose but it helps them raise money from angry people.

By not demonizing the entire opposition, Biden also makes it easier for himself to unite the country after he wins.

[saidsimplesimon]

18. I would make one observation.

“Until there is someone in the Republican Party who can stand up to Trump, then none of them are better than Trump.”

Telling the truth is not "demonizing". imo

[yaesu]

20. I do not want to see any white flags flying unless its repugs doing it. The time for lets get along

has long since past, a political scorched earth policy is the only thing fascists understand.

[saidsimplesimon]

21. I've taken my powder out

of storage to dry. Dirty tricks will not be uncovered or stopped playing "patty cake" politics. The NRA has been reduced to scorched reputation handling dirty Russian money, spending it on themselves, Trump and other Republican deplorables. imo

Although, dumpty is sitting on a wall and needs just the right push to send him tumbling. He already has a crack in his shell, or his brain is suffering from declining, rational brain function. He is a senile, old man.

[abqtommy]

22. Come up with other criticism of the 2016 win

by Democrats, with our nominee HILLARY enjoying a 3 million vote lead in the popular vote. It was
a corrupted process that led to tRump/reTHUGlicans being put in power, NOT A FAILURE IN ANY PART OF DEMOCRATIC POLICY OR CANDIDATES and I'm getting very tired of hearing this shit.