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highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:23 PM May 2019

April 30 Quinnipiac poll found 56% of Dems & Dem-leaning thought Biden most likely to defeat Trump.

He was followed by Sanders at only 12%.

I ran across this in a new CNN article published just a few hours ago:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/politics/biden-trump-poll-policies/index.html

According to a new Quinnipiac University Poll released Tuesday, over half of Democrats and Democratic-leaning registered voters (56%) said that regardless of how they intend to vote in 2020, they thought Biden has the best chance of winning against Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

No other candidate even came close Biden's number when voters were asked if they thought each individual candidate could win against Trump. The next best were Sen. Bernie Sanders (12%) and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (4%).



I remember seeing the Quinnipiac poll numbers on voters' Democratic candidate preference, which had Biden over Sanders 38-11.

But I don't recall reading that over half of Democrats thought Biden had the best chance of beating Trump, with Sanders 44 points behind.

No wonder Sanders supporters like Chris Hayes seem so desperate to stop people from considering electability.

Link to the Quinnipiac poll:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2617

Former Vice President Joseph Biden is surging among Democrats and voters leaning Democratic, with 38 percent of the vote, followed by 12 percent for Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 11 percent for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and 10 percent for South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

California Sen. Kamala Harris has 8 percent of Democrats and Democratic leaners, with 5 percent for former U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas. No other Democratic contender gets more than 2 percent. This compares to results of a March 28 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll, showing Biden with 29 percent, Sanders with 19 percent, O'Rourke with 12 percent and Harris with 8 percent.

In today's survey among Democrats and Democratic leaners:

56 percent say Biden has the best chance to beat President Donald Trump, followed by Sanders at 12 percent;

44 percent say Biden would be the best leader, with Sanders and Warren at 11 percent each;

23 percent say Biden has the best policy ideas, with Warren at 19 percent.


Among Democrats, 25 percent want a presidential candidate who focuses on fighting President Trump, while 70 percent want a candidate who focuses on other national issues.

"The Democratic primary race suddenly gets real with a fast start by former Vice President Joe Biden and a very clear indication from voters that he is the only candidate who can send President Trump packing 18 months from now," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"The good news for Mayor Pete Buttigieg is that voters seem ready to accept a gay man as president. The bad news for Buttigieg is that voters believe it just isn't going to happen."




Emphasis added to that part of the press release.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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April 30 Quinnipiac poll found 56% of Dems & Dem-leaning thought Biden most likely to defeat Trump. (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
Quinnipiac is a respected poll but something is wrong here.. uawchild May 2019 #1
If you'd clicked on the link for the poll instead of just sniping at the OP, you'd have learned highplainsdem May 2019 #2
It all still boils down to WOMEN and MINORITIES at 4% Electability uawchild May 2019 #7
It suggests that voters don't currently see anyone as electable as Obama or HRC, other than Biden. highplainsdem May 2019 #8
Thank you! (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #20
They polled 500 men leftofcool May 2019 #3
Interesting fantasy. Why don't you try clicking the link for the actual poll and reading about it, highplainsdem May 2019 #5
Are you saying women and minorities NYMinute May 2019 #9
The presumption that people vote according to their own gender, color, ethnicity emmaverybo May 2019 #15
I couldn't have said it better. nt NYMinute May 2019 #17
Are you aware DownriverDem May 2019 #10
Yep. 47% of black women support Biden, according to a Morning Consult poll: highplainsdem May 2019 #12
No, there's Biden and then there's everyone else. TwilightZone May 2019 #14
I think that Joe Biden is the candidate who is most likely to defeat trump Gothmog May 2019 #4
And most Democrats agree with you. Including me. highplainsdem May 2019 #6
Trump agrees too emmaverybo May 2019 #16
Me too DownriverDem May 2019 #11
Me three. Biden-Beto -- invincible. NYMinute May 2019 #13
Mahalo, highplains Cha May 2019 #18
Kick mcar May 2019 #19
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
1. Quinnipiac is a respected poll but something is wrong here..
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:32 PM
May 2019

Who the heck DID they poll, an Old Folks home? lol

Seriously consider this part:

"No other candidate even came close Biden's number when voters were asked if they thought each individual candidate could win against Trump. The next best were Sen. Bernie Sanders (12%) and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (4%)."

Mayor Pete at 4%, a political novice on the national and even state level, is considered more electable than Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Andrew Yang, Amy Klobuchar... see the pattern?

ALL those women and people of color are BELOW 4% electability?!?

The poll responders think only WHITE MEN are electable?

To quote President Obama: C'mon man!

Oh well, time will tell, but something seems off with this poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
2. If you'd clicked on the link for the poll instead of just sniping at the OP, you'd have learned
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:03 PM
May 2019

that when Democratic and Democratic-leaning registerd voters were asked which candidate they thought had the best chance of beating Trump, 48% of those age 18-49 chose Biden (with Sanders at 18% for that age group), and 64% of voters 50 years old and older chose Biden (with Sanders in second place but with only 7% of that age group).

Since the final results were close to an average of those numbers, apparently Quinnipiac polled approximately equal numbers of voters 18-49 and voters 50+.

Which I believe would match pretty closely with who's likely to vote.

The results do NOT suggest that "only white men are electable."

They do suggest that so far, at least, voters don't see anyone else running that they think is nearly as electable as Joe Biden.

Even if their personal preference would be another candidate.

Note that this same poll showed Biden at 38% instead of 56% when voters were polled simply on their candidate preference in the primary.

18% of those responding felt that even if they'd prefer someone else winning the primary, Biden would still be the strongest candidate against Trump.

The increased percentage when people were asked who'd be most likely to defeat Trump didn't come from Sanders supporters, apparently. It came largely from Buttigieg supporters (10% for primary preference, only 4% for most electable), Warren (12% for primary preference, only 3% for electability), and Harris (8% for primary preference, only 2% for electability).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
7. It all still boils down to WOMEN and MINORITIES at 4% Electability
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:14 PM
May 2019

"No other candidate even came close Biden's number when voters were asked if they thought each individual candidate could win against Trump. The next best were Sen. Bernie Sanders (12%) and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg (4%)."

That's the bottom line result of that poll and I am glad you posted that in your OP.

So all the women and all the minorities are below 4% electability if they were running against trump. According to those poll responders.

But yeah, I respect Quinnipiac as a poll and I was joking a bit about the results, but something still seems off about it all.

Time will tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
8. It suggests that voters don't currently see anyone as electable as Obama or HRC, other than Biden.
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:24 PM
May 2019

Remember that these are the same people who voted for Obama and Clinton.

The poll results don't mean that they're prejudiced against women and minorities. They're considering specific individuals, and those individuals against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. They polled 500 men
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:05 PM
May 2019

They asked which one of these 3 men are most likely to beat Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
5. Interesting fantasy. Why don't you try clicking the link for the actual poll and reading about it,
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:10 PM
May 2019

rather than making stuff up?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
9. Are you saying women and minorities
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:28 PM
May 2019

would not consider Biden as the strongest candidate against Trump just because of their gender and color?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
15. The presumption that people vote according to their own gender, color, ethnicity
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:52 PM
May 2019

Needs re-examination. It is a myth, with the underlying assumption being that these groups do not vote on merit, that there is no diversity within diversity.
As well, It has also been falsely, assumed that “the youth vote,” without recognizing, again, any diversity in demographics, in politics, will vote only for candidates under 50. That assumption, at least with college students, has been debunked, historically and in recent polling.

We need to stop using the old X won’t vote for a Y paradigm when we talk about candidates.
Did not bear out when America elected Obama and is not shaping up as true today.

Still, I do agree that a Biden/Harris ticket would engage and excite across voting communities, but primarily because both candidates compliment each other and are individually strong.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
17. I couldn't have said it better. nt
Sun May 5, 2019, 03:11 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,223 posts)
10. Are you aware
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:46 PM
May 2019

that black women voters, support Biden big time? Biden/Harris would be a winning ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
14. No, there's Biden and then there's everyone else.
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:26 PM
May 2019

Sanders and Mayor Pete are as much also-rans in this poll as the rest of the candidates. All it really tells us it that a solid majority thinks that Biden is the one best positioned to beat Trump.

Also, it has nothing to do with relative electability. It has to do with who can beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,832 posts)
4. I think that Joe Biden is the candidate who is most likely to defeat trump
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:09 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,874 posts)
6. And most Democrats agree with you. Including me.
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:10 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
16. Trump agrees too
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:58 PM
May 2019

And, obviously, Sanders thinks Biden is the one to run in the primary against. His supporters started early. Don’t tell me the Linda Flores story was not timely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,223 posts)
11. Me too
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:48 PM
May 2019

trump is afraid of Biden. Part of trump's game plan is to win Pennsylvania. Biden was born and raised in Pennsylvania. Biden/Harris can beat trump. She would be the first woman VP. She would be positioned to be president sooner rather than later.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
13. Me three. Biden-Beto -- invincible.
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:04 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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