Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum20 year war between Biden and Warren over bankruptcy, explained
en. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) was the first Democratic 2020 hopeful to take a direct swing at former Vice President Joe Biden since he got into the race, accusing him of being on the side of the credit companies in a fight that launched her political career a decade ago.
Warrens quarrel with Biden isnt personal. Its about a 2005 bankruptcy bill he supported as a senator. Warren opposed the bill so vehemently that its passage inspired her transition from a Harvard bankruptcy law professor, who studied middle-class economics, to a senator and now a presidential hopeful.
I got in that fight because [families] just didnt have anyone and Joe Biden was on the side of the credit card companies, Warren said after an April rally in Iowa. Its all a matter of public record.
The bill made it harder for individuals to file for bankruptcy and get out of debt, a legal change that credit card companies and many major retailers had championed for years. The bill passed Congress with large majorities, but most Democratic senators, including Barack Obama, voted no. Biden voted yes and was widely seen at the time as one of the bills major Democratic champions.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/6/18518381/baccpa-bankruptcy-bill-2005-biden-warren
Sadly, this is another example Biden voting with the Republicans. President Obama and most other democrats in the Senate voted against this bill. Biden voted for it. Has he ever apologized for doing so?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jose Garcia
(2,551 posts)Delaware has a lot of banks which issue credit cards. Those banks employ thousands of Delaware voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PBC_Democrat
(401 posts)As a U.S. Senator Joe Biden's primary purpose was to advocate in the best interests of the citizens of DELAWARE!
As Jose pointed out a huge number of those hard-working, tax-paying Delaware are employed by the bank that issue credit cards. Voting against the employers of Delaware is a great way to become a former senator.
It's easy to take a stand when there will be no backlash from the people that control your next senate election.
He was:
The preference OF THE PEOPLE
He was elected BY THE PEOPLE
His duty was to vote FOR THE PEOPLE
.... Of DELAWARE ....
He was not:
Tasked with representing the citizens of the other 49 states
Supposed to be voting with a bid for POTUS in mind
He voted the correct way on the bankruptcy based on his role at the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)This is roughly the defense that is put up about Bernie's votes on some industries that directly affected his constituency. It's roughly the defense that Manchin gets as well. I would point out that there were far more PEOPLE OF DELAWARE that were going to be adversely affected by these laws, than were employed by them. He was supposed to vote for ALL the people of Delaware.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)She already IS!! Elizabeth represents the PEOPLE, not the credit card companies... good for her!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PBC_Democrat
(401 posts)If tens of thousands of MA residents were employed by big banks
If the law in question would have caused closures/layoff affecting the residents
If the voters overwhelmingly opposed the law
I wonder if she would have taken the same position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)A born leader!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)If we go with a centrist, hopefully it won't be one who was beholden to special corporate interests.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
turbinetree
(24,632 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided