Old Tapes Reveal The REAL Bernie Sanders

[Uncle Joe]

[comradebillyboy]

1. Do his essays in Vermont Freeman reveal the real Bernie Sanders?

His novel theory on the causes of cervical cancer is quite illuminating.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5271159/bernie-sanders-essay-cancer-women-orgasm/

by the way Bernie was a grown man when he wrote that nonsense.

[WeekiWater]

2. Aren't you listening?

It's the "Old Tapes." Not the old writings. Not all of the old tapes. Please watch the video in the op again as the real Bernie Sanders has been found.

Interesting that they come from a right wing source.

[Uncle Joe]

3. "Right wing?" n/t

[aidbo]

23. They think TYT is right wing.

[LongtimeAZDem]

24. I don't think it's right-wing; I think it's anti-Democrat

[George II]

25. "They" only judge the facts, at least the "me" part of "they" - Cenk Uygur, from wikipedia:

In college and law school, Uygur espoused politically conservative views during the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. He wrote a column in The Daily Pennsylvanian criticizing the University of Pennsylvania's practice of affirmative action.[9] He was pro-life on abortion, criticized feminism, and argued that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was treated unjustly during his Senate confirmation hearings.[14] Since then, he has repudiated these positions and is now ardently pro-choice.[15] He has also criticized organized religion as divisive and based on mythology.[16]

In 1991, Uygur wrote an article in The Daily Pennsylvanian in which he promoted Armenian Genocide denial.[17] He reiterated his position in a letter to the editor of Salon in 1999.[18] In a blog post in April 2016, he rescinded the statements. He went on to claim that he does not know enough today to comment on it.[19] As of 2017, his full acceptance of the term "genocide" has been indicated on the main TYT program: on September 6, he referred to the Armenian Genocide[20] while discussing the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, and on November 29, while discussing the in-court suicide of war criminal Slobodan Praljak, he referred to the Armenian genocide twice.[21]

Uygur slowly transitioned away from the Republican Party and has said that the decision to invade Iraq was a "seminal moment" in that transition.[3] He is now a progressive.[22][23] On national security and civil liberties issues, Uygur has strongly opposed the practices begun under the Bush administration of indefinite detention, warrantless wiretapping and extraordinary rendition, and believes that waterboarding is an illegal torture technique. Uygur has been a strong critic of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the right-wing Israeli government, has stated that he advocates a two-state solution in the West Bank, and has repeatedly criticized the Israeli government for its failure to materialize.[24] He has also repeatedly criticized former Canadian Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper.[25]

Uygur supported Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders for president in the 2016 election. Just before the general election, Uygur stated his intention to vote for the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton.

He only conveniently became a "Democrat" in the last few years.

[aidbo]

36. I've been watching them since 2008.

You know not of what you speak.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. LMFAO!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

46. He takes money from Republicans...and hates Democrats.

[aidbo]

47. They don't hate Democrats. What a silly thing to say.

[Demsrule86]

50. Yes they do. He helped destroy Hillary in 2016. He can fuck off. Never watch his show or listen to

His shit show again... and I used to,

[Me.]

4. Maybe They're Tapes Of His HoneyMoon In Russia

[Uncle Joe]

5. Bernie's visit to Russia happened in 1988 and the Berlin Wall fell in 1989

It was an opening up period of Glasnost with Mikhail Gorbachev beginning in 1985.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasnost

[Demsrule86]

9. The wall falling was shocking and not expected.

[Buzz cook]

37. Shocking but many people expected it.

After the victory of Solidarity in Poland, the writing was on the wall. But few expected the fall to happen so rapidly after that.

But predictions about the wall falling started as soon as it was built.

[Me.]

12. The OP Says Tapes, As In Plural

[rgbecker]

6. All indications are, judging from the timing, that it was Bernie's visit that ended the cold war!

I'm guessing no one here is going to give him credit for that.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Bernie started a sister city between Burlington Vermont and Yaroslavl.

That's the city visited by the Sanders after they got married.

I believe this defrosting of the Cold War had much to do with the Berlin Wall falling.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/aug/12/george-will/george-will-reminds-readers-about-bernie-sanders-u/

[George II]

39. WOW!!!!

Now he's responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall?

[mcar]

43. ...

[Demsrule86]

7. Honestly , I don't care. Who is he today.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. A superstar!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[redstateblues]

28. more like a planet

[Demsrule86]

30. I don't understad the appeal of Sanders. He was OK in 16...in fact my kids supported him,

the ones old enough to vote...and we all voted for him together in the Ohio Primary. At the time I like both candidates...Hillary more but I knew she would win Ohio and the kid were excited. In the general we all voted for Hillary. I can not get over the general...I just don't feel enough was done to help her by Sen. Sanders. I could never vote for him in a primary because of the 16 general and because I have never believed he can defeat Trump in 2020.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. I respect your opinion... I'm cool with it as long as you'll be voting to elect Bernie President.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

35. If he won the primary of course. But you do understand it is now a longshot...no growth.

[George II]

40. I think part of his reluctance to energetically campaign for Clinton was that he and his people....

....wanted to be provided a private plane by the DNC, which didn't happen.

His support in the general election campaign was minimal. The Convention ended on July 28, he made his first campaign appearance on September 5 - almost six weeks later. Contrast that with Clinton who joined Obama on the campaign trail only two days or so after the close of the convention.

[Demsrule86]

44. Yes and this is why he won't get my vote in a primary...and I doubt he can win a general.

[George II]

38. We don't need a superstar, we need a President of 325 million people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Hell no, wrong!! President Sanders will NOT be representing the interests of the deplorables

who are among America's 325 million people, that's for damn sure!! Hillary was 100% right about referring to half of trRump supporters, who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it - tens of millions of them!! - as "deplorables" and Bernie won't be President of those deplorable people. Nor will President Sanders be reaching across the aisle to compromise with the deplorables' representatives or otherwise giving in to the demands of the deplorables. Similarly, President Sanders won't be saying he likes the most deplorable of the deplorables' idols and listening to their deplorable advice.

And THAT, among many other things, is what makes Bernie a superstar!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[George II]

42. Regardless of how you feel about it, a president represents each and every citizen of...

...the United States. That's why we're in the mess we are in - we have a president who thinks he represents only his and his allies' interests.

The thought that some of Sanders' supporters feel that the president shouldn't represent all of the United States is troubling. But it's all moot, there never will be a "President Sanders".

[Demsrule86]

45. Yes. We don't need a revolution.we need a Democrat in the White House.

[msongs]

8. old tapes only reveal part of what a person was at that moment in the past as do

old writings and publications

[NurseJackie]

17. Thank you!

[George II]

10. Sorry, not interested in what "TY" has to say.....

The Young Turks is named after the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide which their founder, Cenk Uygur, denied for decades. They are also funded by RT and right winger Buddy Roehmer.

[NurseJackie]

14. I didn't click the link either. Cenk Uygur is a conservative funded buy Republicans...

I didn't click the link either. Cenk Uygur is a conservative funded buy Republicans so that he can attack Democrats from the "far left". I'm surprised that anyone is buying what he's selling. There's an axiom for that, but it's probably best that I not get too specific on that for obvious reasons.

[NurseJackie]

13. So do old writings.

[ehrnst]

15. Indeed. (nt)

[George II]

16. And old "life experiences".

[LongtimeAZDem]

19. And old newspaper articles

Link to tweet

[George II]

20. Damn!

[LongtimeAZDem]

21. Yeah, I only recently learned about that period of his life

As I've said many times here, I was a fan of Sanders in Congress long before he became well known; he was the curmudgeon in the back row, bucking the system. I've said that 2016 convinced me he was no longer the person I perceived him to be.

But this was news to me, and the facts make it pretty clear that he was essentially a deadbeat dad. That shows me that he never was the person I perceived him to be.

[NurseJackie]

22. I knew he had a child out of wedlock, but not the whole story. Interesting.

[KitSileya]

34. In or out of wedlock is of no consequence.

That Senator Sanders, a college-educated white man in Vermont, didn't bother getting a steady job so that his child had a secure childhood is more consequential. Quite clearly, his political ambitions were more important. After all, he didn't get a permanent job until he was elected mayor of Burlington when he was in his forties. (At least that got him voting in elections at last.) A woman doing the same? Goodness gracious, the flak she would get wouldn't be pretty.

[ehrnst]

48. He got pretty prickly when someone realized that newspapers got it wrong

because Bernie never corrected them, and asked him about it.

[NYMinute]

18. Cenk Uygur lol

I'd advise Cenk to make a tape of Bernie reciting his old essays.

[Thekaspervote]

29. Just in case anyone needs reminding..bernie is NOT a democrat

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Wrong!! Bernie IS a Democrat... just ask the DNC!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Hortensis]

33. Sure, but why do you care?

If his being a temporary Democrat bothers you, maybe you should find a permanent Democrat to back. Otherwise, maybe just accept it? After all, he is what he is and he’s been it for a very long time. No matter how he switches his party membership around or what he gains from it, HE isn’t going to change.

[NYC Liberal]

51. Interesting assertion given that he has filed to run for re-election to the Senate as an Independent

not a Democrat.

[ehrnst]

49. Young Turks. Known for their history of support for the Democratic Party, yes?