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TexasTowelie

(112,137 posts)
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:29 AM May 2019

Stacey Abrams keeps presidential possibility alive in Tougaloo commencement speech

TOUGALOO — Sun streamed through the clouds and Spanish moss swayed in trees on the campus of Tougaloo College, where 55 years ago this summer, busloads of young people gathered for Freedom Summer.

It might have been a picture-perfect setting for the long-awaited announcement of a different kind of movement.

But Stacey Abrams, a rising political star whose unsuccessful bid for the Georgia governor’s office propelled her into the national spotlight and onto numerous shortlists for higher office, stopped short of making such an announcement in her commencement speech for the historically black college’s 150th anniversary.

She also left the possibility of a national campaign wide open as she addressed more than 100 graduating seniors at her parents’ alma mater, near Jackson.

Read more: https://mississippitoday.org/2019/05/05/stacey-abrams-keeps-presidential-possibility-alive-in-tougaloo-commencement-speech/

I think that Abrams waited too long to get into the race for president. However, she would be a fine addition to the ticket of several of the other candidates that already announced.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Stacey Abrams keeps presidential possibility alive in Tougaloo commencement speech (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2019 OP
Abrams was unsuccessful running for Governor of Georgia. democratisphere May 2019 #1
she was not unsuccessful. the election was corrupt with the piece of shit running against JI7 May 2019 #2
I think it was pretty obvious. The guy who counts the votes was running against her. Rhiannon12866 May 2019 #6
I agree and yesterday, the Governor of Georgia just criminalized abortion. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #3
Should we be surprised he did this? democratisphere May 2019 #5
Biden was unsuccessful multiple times running for POTUS before, had disastrous campaigns. Celerity May 2019 #12
Not even apples and oranges. Biden Senator. Abrams assembly woman. Kahuna7 May 2019 #18
yes, really Celerity May 2019 #25
without voter suppression she would be governor JI7 May 2019 #32
100%. But she didn't become governor and only Kahuna7 May 2019 #33
Abrams lack of experience in the big political leagues makes her unqualified to run, imo. democratisphere May 2019 #23
wrong Celerity May 2019 #24
It is what it is. democratisphere May 2019 #26
that would auto eliminate almost all governors Celerity May 2019 #27
There is no substitute for actual experience. democratisphere May 2019 #30
The point is what experience does she have that she should now Kahuna7 May 2019 #17
Stacey please run for Senator. We need you there right now. 2024 is the time to run for POS. sarabelle May 2019 #4
I agree, but IF 2024 is the time to run for POTUS that means either Trumps wins re-election or Celerity May 2019 #13
Like Sarabelle, I'm very disappointed that she has turned Hortensis May 2019 #7
I'd love to see her run for Senate JonLP24 May 2019 #8
There a bunch of other candidates already running with Jose Garcia May 2019 #9
Exactly. She was an assembly woman. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #19
I think her window has closed... brooklynite May 2019 #10
"The years ahead hold much promise". Fortune cookie quote. nt oasis May 2019 #11
May you live in interesting times. crazytown May 2019 #14
"Every worker in this country deserves to be treated with dignity and respect." Honeycombe8 May 2019 #16
The fortune cookie quote was meant to be in relation to Abrams' future. oasis May 2019 #22
She is unique. I'd like to see her start out as V.P. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #15
Too late to announce in this crowded field. MineralMan May 2019 #20
It's an awfully big step from the Georgia state legislature to comradebillyboy May 2019 #21
Abrams is as so superior to the white winger who won the GA gubernatorial race. Hoyt May 2019 #28
Enough Already! elfin May 2019 #29
Beto, Abrams and Gillum were all in unique positions at the right time madville May 2019 #31
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Abrams was unsuccessful running for Governor of Georgia.
Thu May 9, 2019, 05:47 AM
May 2019

Don't understand why she thinks she could be successful running for the Presidency in an already very crowded field.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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JI7

(89,247 posts)
2. she was not unsuccessful. the election was corrupt with the piece of shit running against
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:05 AM
May 2019

her being the one controlling the elections .

she most likely won without the shit he pulled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
6. I think it was pretty obvious. The guy who counts the votes was running against her.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:48 AM
May 2019

I hope she runs again, she ran an impressive campaign and she was clearly the best and the brightest. And I kept thinking how tickled Jimmy Carter would have been to see a black woman win the office he once held. He fought for integration from the very first public office he held (school board) and equality for women is yet another cause of the Carter Center.

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no_hypocrisy

(46,086 posts)
3. I agree and yesterday, the Governor of Georgia just criminalized abortion.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:06 AM
May 2019
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Undecided
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. Should we be surprised he did this?
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:17 AM
May 2019

When will some asinine men stop trying to take away a woman's right to choose?

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
12. Biden was unsuccessful multiple times running for POTUS before, had disastrous campaigns.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:05 AM
May 2019

The point is people in glass houses should not throw rocks.

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
18. Not even apples and oranges. Biden Senator. Abrams assembly woman.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:26 AM
May 2019

Really?

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JI7

(89,247 posts)
32. without voter suppression she would be governor
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:15 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
33. 100%. But she didn't become governor and only
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019

has her assembly experience to run on. I don't think that qualifies one to run the country.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
23. Abrams lack of experience in the big political leagues makes her unqualified to run, imo.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:47 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
26. It is what it is.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:19 PM
May 2019

No experience in national politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
27. that would auto eliminate almost all governors
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:26 PM
May 2019

I will never buy into the 'more experienced' is a priori the better candidate game.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
30. There is no substitute for actual experience.
Thu May 9, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
17. The point is what experience does she have that she should now
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:25 AM
May 2019

be president of the USA? Or even, V.P? She was an assemblywoman. C'mon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
4. Stacey please run for Senator. We need you there right now. 2024 is the time to run for POS.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:12 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
13. I agree, but IF 2024 is the time to run for POTUS that means either Trumps wins re-election or
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

Biden either dies in office or (highly doubtful) refuses to run for re-election, and on top of that his VPOTUS is so weak they invite a brutal primary (unless Abrams is that VPOTUS in your positing).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Like Sarabelle, I'm very disappointed that she has turned
Thu May 9, 2019, 07:18 AM
May 2019

the the call to run for the senate, and my gut reaction to her running was that the last thing I wanted to see was her running for president to polish her resume and/or sell a book.

However, on wondering what her goal is (not president, not senate), 2 possibilities in government come to mind, neither of which rule the other out: A high appointed position under a Democratic president in 2020 and going after the GA governor's office in 2022.

We vote in Georgia agree with her that a majority of GA's electorate wanted her for governor and that the election was blatantly stolen from us. So if her goal is to fumigate the governor's mansion and set to work cleaning up and advancing this state, it's a very important one and we'll be with her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. I'd love to see her run for Senate
Thu May 9, 2019, 07:23 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
9. There a bunch of other candidates already running with
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:21 AM
May 2019

much more impressive resumes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
19. Exactly. She was an assembly woman. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:27 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
10. I think her window has closed...
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:28 AM
May 2019

She stood out in 2018 against one Primary opponent and again one-on-one in the General Election. If she'd gotten in when there were fewer candidates she would have had a chance to build on her reputation. Now she'd be one of six women, one of four African Americans, one of ten or so progressives...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,378 posts)
11. "The years ahead hold much promise". Fortune cookie quote. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:29 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
14. May you live in interesting times.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:10 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. "Every worker in this country deserves to be treated with dignity and respect."
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:21 AM
May 2019

A platitude. What is a candidate going to say? "Every worker does not deserve to be treated with dignity and respect"?

Just pointing out...that's politicking.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,378 posts)
22. The fortune cookie quote was meant to be in relation to Abrams' future.
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:41 AM
May 2019

In the years to come, I believe the Democratic Party will greatly benefit from her positive image.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. She is unique. I'd like to see her start out as V.P.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:15 AM
May 2019

With an eye on becoming President in the future.

She's one of those special people. The ones that people notice, that have charisma and smarts and the whole ball of wax. But she is very light on political office and executive experience.

She'd make a perfect V.P., IMO.

I'm not leaning toward supporting Biden, but if he would pick Abrams as his V.P. running mate, I would enthusiastically support that ticket.

But picking a VP is a strategy decision. People don't usually vote for the VP, but the VP brings something to the ticket. Bringing in his/her home state, a particular expertise, a nod to a demographic group that its concerns will have a seat in the Oval Office...something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
20. Too late to announce in this crowded field.
Thu May 9, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

She should run for some other office, I think, first, and win that election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
21. It's an awfully big step from the Georgia state legislature to
Thu May 9, 2019, 11:26 AM
May 2019

the White House. Too big I think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. Abrams is as so superior to the white winger who won the GA gubernatorial race.
Thu May 9, 2019, 06:39 PM
May 2019

She’d make a great senator or governor, but I’m not sure now is the time for a presidential race. I wouldn’t count her out if she does run, but just saying.

I can also see her in a major domestic cabinet position, like HHS, Housing, IRS (she’s a tax attorney), or something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elfin

(6,262 posts)
29. Enough Already!
Thu May 9, 2019, 07:14 PM
May 2019

Crazy for her.... but not now for the Pres. At this point, she is so much better suited for either the House or Senate. Would have been best for Governor as a future launching pad. She SHOULD have won and probably did so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

madville

(7,408 posts)
31. Beto, Abrams and Gillum were all in unique positions at the right time
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:13 PM
May 2019

They were promoted heavily by the national media and had tons of money coming in from outside their states. Everyone around the country lined up behind Beto because Cruz is probably the most unpopular Senator of all time yet he still won. Abrams and Gillum to a lesser extent but still nicely funded and positively covered at the national level.

Now here is the mistake they (Beto and possibly Abrams) seem to be making or embracing, either way you want to look at it. That national enthusiasm for them in statewide races against unpopular opponents does not translate into Democratic primary support in the Presidential race. They are on at best a level playing field and much of that national media adoration will turn on them quick if they gain any real traction.

Abrams is best suited to run for governor again in 2022. I think 2020 Senator was too risky for her against an incumbent. 2020 President or VP, nowhere close to qualified compared to the experience already running and she wouldn't get over 5% anywhere except GA and possibly SC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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