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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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**BREAKING A + RATED MONMOUTH NEW HAMPSHIRE POLL**: Biden 36% Sander 18% Mayor Pete 9% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
Oh boy. The long knives are going to be out now. Kahuna7 May 2019 #1
They already are out. Folks are digging for dirt on the leading candidate. MineralMan May 2019 #8
I've seen it. It appears the poll respondents are like.... Kahuna7 May 2019 #17
Talk to the hand! Cha May 2019 #45
Folks need to wake up DownriverDem May 2019 #2
For those who wanted things in America to get so bad Kahuna7 May 2019 #3
Those folks couldn't deliver a pizza much less salvation. comradebillyboy May 2019 #31
You mean LibFarmer May 2019 #34
Do Biden and Harris have a good relationship? Funtatlaguy May 2019 #4
Harris recently remarked..."I'm crazy about Joe." Kahuna7 May 2019 #11
She is, indeed, a smart woman. MineralMan May 2019 #13
Get a load of this tidbit... Kahuna7 May 2019 #6
That's really interesting, I think. MineralMan May 2019 #12
Yeah! I'm impressed. Aside from getting rid of Trump Kahuna7 May 2019 #19
I agree with those polled. My #1 priority is to beat Trump. nt SunSeeker May 2019 #15
Yep.. I'm with the 2/3rds! Cha May 2019 #46
Amy Klobuchar is from the midwest and she's center left. nt pnwmom May 2019 #9
Yes, she is. MineralMan May 2019 #20
We haven't even started the primaries yet. Obama was nowhere at this point in pnwmom May 2019 #22
Yeah, OK. Whatever you say. MineralMan May 2019 #24
well no he wasn't nowhere qazplm135 May 2019 #33
That list starts in late May of 2008. We're at the equivalent of April 2007. hedda_foil May 2019 #39
no, it doesn't...but here let me llink some numbers for you then... qazplm135 May 2019 #40
Thanks! hedda_foil May 2019 #42
Biden/Harris sounds like a winner. RVN VET71 May 2019 #32
Most of the attacks against Biden LibFarmer May 2019 #38
I think anyone who sincerely wants Trump out RVN VET71 May 2019 #47
I agree - news outlets like CNN and MSNBC should refuse to cover any manufactured propoganda Skya Rhen May 2019 #48
Why are all those other candidates stealing Bernie's votes? MineralMan May 2019 #5
Sanders is up 2% from Monmouths April poll. crazytown May 2019 #18
Bernie's really tanking. BannonsLiver May 2019 #7
Sanders is up 2% from April crazytown May 2019 #14
I wouldn't call it tanking qazplm135 May 2019 #35
cf April : Buttigrieg -2, Warren +1, Sanders +2, Biden +13 crazytown May 2019 #10
I don't understand Warrens weak numbers in next door NHampshire. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #16
Othe NH polls have shown her passing Pete with up to 12% crazytown May 2019 #21
Warren's having trouble gaining traction. MineralMan May 2019 #23
cf Warren makes headway in three new polls crazytown May 2019 #25
OK. Still, Biden seems to be making the most headway... MineralMan May 2019 #26
Biden is killing it. crazytown May 2019 #27
Warren and Sanders have the same pool qazplm135 May 2019 #36
I think if Sanders dropped out, most of those voters would likely go to Warren... deurbano May 2019 #41
So far, Joe Biden's numbers are holding and the . . . peggysue2 May 2019 #28
Unless Joe does something to really mess things up... calguy May 2019 #29
Yes the veepstakes are where the action is ucrdem May 2019 #30
Biden 53% of 65+ 36% of 50-64; Sanders gets under 50s delisen May 2019 #37
Solid news for Biden. WeekiWater May 2019 #43
Funny thing, the last two Democratic presidents lost their 1st primaries rogue emissary May 2019 #44
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
1. Oh boy. The long knives are going to be out now.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:20 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. They already are out. Folks are digging for dirt on the leading candidate.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:31 PM
May 2019

Some are posting it here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
17. I've seen it. It appears the poll respondents are like....
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:37 PM
May 2019

'talk to the hand, because the face don't want to hear it.'

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(296,875 posts)
45. Talk to the hand!
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:13 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
2. Folks need to wake up
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:22 PM
May 2019

The country is not far left. It's Center left. That is what the polls are showing us. I would love to see a Biden/Harris ticket. She would be the first woman VP and aligned to be President too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
3. For those who wanted things in America to get so bad
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:28 PM
May 2019

we'd turn to them for salvation...It does't seem to be working out that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
31. Those folks couldn't deliver a pizza much less salvation.
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:54 PM
May 2019

Want a savior, go to church.

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
34. You mean
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:15 PM
May 2019

their leader is not a messiah? Shocking

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Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
4. Do Biden and Harris have a good relationship?
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:30 PM
May 2019

I know there’s that one picture of them together, but I’ve never heard either one talk about the other.
Hope they are on the same debate stage together. Would be interesting to gauge their chemistry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
11. Harris recently remarked..."I'm crazy about Joe."
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019
Smart lady.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
13. She is, indeed, a smart woman.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:34 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
6. Get a load of this tidbit...
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:30 PM
May 2019

<< One-third of voters say that finding a candidate who will carry on former President Barack Obama’s legacy is very important to them and there is little difference in levels of candidate support by the importance voters place on Obama’s legacy. On the other hand, two-thirds of primary voters point to finding a nominee who can beat President Donald Trump as more important to them than agreement on the issues.>>

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
12. That's really interesting, I think.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019

People seem to have their priorities pretty straight there in New Hampshire.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
19. Yeah! I'm impressed. Aside from getting rid of Trump
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:38 PM
May 2019

it appears that healthcare is the top issue. I guess it isn't lost on the respondents who was part of the administration that enacted the ACA.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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SunSeeker

(51,522 posts)
15. I agree with those polled. My #1 priority is to beat Trump. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:36 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,875 posts)
46. Yep.. I'm with the 2/3rds!
Thu May 9, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
9. Amy Klobuchar is from the midwest and she's center left. nt
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:32 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
20. Yes, she is.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:40 PM
May 2019

She's not getting the traction she might, though. She's come up a little in the polling, but not enough. She's one of my Senators, and I like her a lot. I don't see her as someone who could win next November, though.

Some would categorize a little more to the center than center left, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
22. We haven't even started the primaries yet. Obama was nowhere at this point in
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

his first campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
24. Yeah, OK. Whatever you say.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:43 PM
May 2019

There are lots of shiny candidates out there. Lots of distractions. Amy isn't quite as shiny or sparkly, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
33. well no he wasn't nowhere
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:12 PM
May 2019

he was well behind Clinton but so was everyone else. He was solidly second in every poll around this time in 2007.

Edwards was usually third although a couple of polls had Gore third.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
39. That list starts in late May of 2008. We're at the equivalent of April 2007.
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:36 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
40. no, it doesn't...but here let me llink some numbers for you then...
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:45 PM
May 2019

CNN/Opinion Research Poll May 4–6, 2007 Hillary Clinton 38%, Barack Obama 24%, Al Gore 12%, John Edwards 12%, Bill Richardson 5%, Joe Biden 2%, Chris Dodd 2%, Dennis Kucinich 1%

USA Today/Gallup Poll (with Gore) May 4–6, 2007 Hillary Clinton 38%, Barack Obama 23%, Al Gore 14%, John Edwards 12%, Bill Richardson 2%, Joe Biden 2%, Wesley Clark 1%, Dennis Kucinich 1%, Al Sharpton 0%, Mike Gravel 0%, Christopher Dodd 0%, Someone else 1%, None (vol.) 1%, Unsure 4%

USA Today/Gallup Poll (without Gore) May 4–6, 2007 Hillary Clinton 45%, Barack Obama 27%, John Edwards 14%, Bill Richardson 3%, Joe Biden 2%, Wesley Clark 1%, Dennis Kucinich 1%, Al Sharpton 0%, Mike Gravel 0%, Christopher Dodd 0%, Someone else 1%, Unsure/None 5%

The latest poll to NOT have Obama in second place was in Nov of 2006, and even then he was statistically tied for second with Edwards and Gore.

WNBC/Marist Poll Nov 27 – Dec 3, 2006 Hillary Clinton 33%, John Edwards 14%, Al Gore 13%, Barack Obama 12%, John Kerry 5%, Joe Biden 3%, Evan Bayh 1%, Wesley Clark 1%, Bill Richardson 1%, Tom Vilsack 1%, Christopher Dodd 0%, Al Sharpton 0%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
32. Biden/Harris sounds like a winner.
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:54 PM
May 2019

It is going to be interesting to see how Biden negotiates the rough waters stirred up by the sick-minded right wing in the coming months. (And by "right wing" I mean Trump, the entire GOP, and all the little peons who insist on voting against their own best interests.) They're already attacking Biden's son -- you know, because Ukraine collusion. But they're going to get some woman or women to come forward with lying allegations against Joe concerning sexual assault, sexual groping, sexual-something. All of it will be proven to be lies but the media will gobble it up, anyway.

And Harris! Harris is of Jamaican descent so, therefore, ipso facto, she must be a heavy user of marijuana. Media will find dozens, maybe thousands!, of people who personally smoked with her while she gyrated to reggae music which you can see and hear, in this smokey, poorly lit video.

I do believe -- steeped though I am in cynicism -- that the American people will see through the garbage the Republican Party might throw at a Biden/Harris ticket. But it will be ugly and nasty enough to put a real strain on 2 excellent people.

(I do like Mayor Pete, but it really looks like it will be Biden/Harris for the win.)

(But, as so many here have said before, I will vote for any Democrat who wins the nomination. For some, I may have to hold my nose, but I'm voting straight Democratic until we flush all the crap out of Washington -- and by crap, yes, I mean Republicans, all of them, each and every one of them.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
38. Most of the attacks against Biden
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:19 PM
May 2019

are coming from the far left at this point. They frequently quote articles by David Sirota's biddies at the Greenwald rag.

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RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
47. I think anyone who sincerely wants Trump out
Sun May 12, 2019, 07:29 AM
May 2019

but still stirs up crap about Democratic candidates for the sake of scoring "scoop" points is a fool. Period.

If a reporter knows and has proof of criminal behavior of a candidate, sure, let us know so we don't give that person the nomination. But hazy and dubious allegations should be tossed in the waste basket for now.

We are at war with a neo-fascist movement and have to defeat said movement or be consumed by it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
48. I agree - news outlets like CNN and MSNBC should refuse to cover any manufactured propoganda
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:37 AM
May 2019

from the Trump team. if they have hard evidence of anything, of course, report it. But they should not be complicit in spreading unfounded accusations.

Leave stuff like that to Fox News...

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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
5. Why are all those other candidates stealing Bernie's votes?
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:30 PM
May 2019

That's the real question, isn't it?

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
18. Sanders is up 2% from Monmouths April poll.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:37 PM
May 2019

Bit 16% or 18% it is a terrible result for his backyard.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
14. Sanders is up 2% from April
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:34 PM
May 2019

Biden +13% is crowding out the ‘minor’ candidates.

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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
35. I wouldn't call it tanking
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:15 PM
May 2019

I would call it capping.

All the folks who didn't like Hillary last time have another place to go this time besides just Bernie.

Bernie's vote in 2016 was always two parts, folks who wanted a far left candidate, and folks who really didn't want Hillary as the nominee.

The former group I suspect hasn't gone anywhere...the latter group has a half dozen other candidates to choose from and I suspect he's lost a good chunk of them to the size of the field.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. cf April : Buttigrieg -2, Warren +1, Sanders +2, Biden +13
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:32 PM
May 2019

The field is narrowing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
16. I don't understand Warrens weak numbers in next door NHampshire.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:36 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
21. Othe NH polls have shown her passing Pete with up to 12%
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:41 PM
May 2019

Compared with Monmouth’s April survey, Warren is up 1, from 7% to 8%

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
23. Warren's having trouble gaining traction.
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

Her support will be coming from the Sanders camp and those on the left. Problem is that Sanders still has a lot of people's loyalty, and those who are ready to switch have a lot of candidates to look at. I don't think Warren is going to pick up steam quickly enough to have much of a chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
25. cf Warren makes headway in three new polls
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:57 PM
May 2019

The Hill, April 30
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign-polls/441401-warren-makes-headways-in-three-new-polls

Quinnipiac Apri 26 - 29

Biden 36%
Warren 12%
Sanders 11%
Buttigieg 20%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
26. OK. Still, Biden seems to be making the most headway...
Thu May 9, 2019, 12:58 PM
May 2019

The others seem to be divvying up the rest of the vote, one way or another. There's a big difference from nationwide polling to polling in a specific early primary state, too. We'll all keep watching.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
27. Biden is killing it.
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:01 PM
May 2019

There are other polls showing him closing in on 50% As time goes by, his polls are looking less like a bump, and more like a wave.

As long as people don’t accuse me of preferring a candidate who is certain to lose the GE, I am happy enough with his success. It is spectacular.

NH is probably his weakest state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
36. Warren and Sanders have the same pool
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:17 PM
May 2019

so they are splitting up that pool. If one of them dropped out, the other would instantly shoot up to be the main challenger at this time to Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
41. I think if Sanders dropped out, most of those voters would likely go to Warren...
Thu May 9, 2019, 03:11 PM
May 2019

but I think Harris could pick up many of Warren's voters. Maybe my sampling is unrepresentative, but the Warren supporters I know (and I would be very happy with Warren, myself), are not Sanders' fans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

peggysue2

(10,824 posts)
28. So far, Joe Biden's numbers are holding and the . . .
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
May 2019

electability factor (unpopular as it may be) is strongly tilted in Joe's direction. I think we need to give our electorate credit: they too know that dumping Trump and his cohorts is the prime motivator for 2020 because the critical issues--healthcare, climate change and the environment--all depend on a 2020 victory.

Interesting, too: second choices, Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.

Preferences are beginning to gel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calguy

(5,294 posts)
29. Unless Joe does something to really mess things up...
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:39 PM
May 2019

The candidates will be classified in only two tier levels:
First Teir = Joe Biden
Second Teir = Everybody Else

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. Yes the veepstakes are where the action is
Thu May 9, 2019, 01:48 PM
May 2019

Of course things could change dramatically again but I'm fairly confident that they won't.

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delisen

(6,042 posts)
37. Biden 53% of 65+ 36% of 50-64; Sanders gets under 50s
Thu May 9, 2019, 02:18 PM
May 2019

in Monmouth Poll 9 months before Feb 2020 primary

New Hampshire pop: 1,316,000. 93% White; 2% Hispanic/Latinx; 2% Asian; 1% Black 1%

from Monmouth Poll:
Biden voters 53% are 65+ ; Sanders + other candidates get the under 50 voters

Biden does especially well among voters aged 65 and older, garnering 53% support with this group compared to only 9% for Sanders. The former vice president also bests Sanders by 36% to 19% among those aged 50 to 64, but he trails the Vermont senator by 20% to 27% among voters under the age of 50. Biden tops Sanders by 45% to 10% among self-described moderates and conservatives, but he lags by 23% to 29% among liberals. A majority of likely Democratic primary voters (58%) describe themselves as moderates or conservatives in New Hampshire, a state that allows unaffiliated voters to participate in either party’s primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
43. Solid news for Biden.
Thu May 9, 2019, 03:34 PM
May 2019

His strongest blocks are those who vote at the highest percentage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
44. Funny thing, the last two Democratic presidents lost their 1st primaries
Thu May 9, 2019, 07:55 PM
May 2019

In New Hampshire.

The state is notorious for getting it wrong or picking the eventually Democratic loser in the general.

Addendum

Have to go back to my birth year when Jimmy Carter ran and won New Hampshire on his way to victory in november.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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