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Kamala Harris is fundraising for abortion-rights groups rather than her own campaign (Original Post) ehrnst May 2019 OP
Good on Kamala! Cha May 2019 #1
+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat May 2019 #2
Posted about this yesterday Kaleva May 2019 #3
The question to ask is WHY - why is abortion so important to them. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #4
it's about controlling and taking power away from women JI7 May 2019 #5
Yes. Fundamentalism is very Patriarchal. God the Father/God the Son. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #6
Then God knows he is making hermaphrodites too. safeinOhio May 2019 #8
Thanks for your explanation. luvtheGWN May 2019 #21
Oh no. These people DO NOT believe in church/state separation. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #24
Well sure, that's what THEY want. luvtheGWN May 2019 #28
It's all about maximizing the numbers of European-Americans while suppressing others. Marcuse May 2019 #29
Counter balance loyalsister May 2019 #30
God we have great candidates on our side. Every one of them I hear inspires me. pdsimdars May 2019 #7
Except it would take away from the need to win the Senate in 2020. pazzyanne May 2019 #9
But only Hickenlooper, Bennett and Castro/O'Rourke KitSileya May 2019 #12
But if we take the Democrats running for 2020 pazzyanne May 2019 #13
Blue wave in 2020 could win us those special elections. KitSileya May 2019 #15
So do I!!! pazzyanne May 2019 #16
Good for her! I've seen this done before, EXCEPT... NurseJackie May 2019 #10
That's the kind of person she is! KitSileya May 2019 #11
Well done! nt Lucky Luciano May 2019 #14
Beto is doing the same thing Indygram May 2019 #17
+1 dalton99a May 2019 #19
I'm glad to see this! brer cat May 2019 #18
Kick dalton99a May 2019 #20
She's excellent! BlancheSplanchnik May 2019 #22
She's the ONE! djacq May 2019 #23
This issue is only the latest in a cacophony of dire issues. But it sure is a wake up call. FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #25
Good for Senator Harris duforsure May 2019 #26
K&R ismnotwasm May 2019 #27
Awesome! k&r DesertRat May 2019 #31
Textbook Dedication To Cause! Go, Kamala! (n/t) corbettkroehler May 2019 #32
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
1. Good on Kamala!
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:40 AM
May 2019

Thank You, ehrnst!

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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
2. + a million or so! eom
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:43 AM
May 2019
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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
4. The question to ask is WHY - why is abortion so important to them.
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:49 AM
May 2019

My theory - it’s their Preachers.
In the pews, they constantly hear the sermon “about God knowing us all before he formed us”.
The theory being that there is the thing called the SOUL and God places it into the fetus at the moment of conception of the fertilized egg.

I grew up in this culture.
And I was the precocious kind of kid that asked a lot of questions of my Sunday School teachers.
They all hated me because they didn’t have answers to my questions other than to say to just live by faith and read the Bible.

Anyway, if you believe this theory, then you will believe that you have moral superiority for being a pious defender of babies. And, what is more precious than a baby.
At least, an unborn one anyway.
That is how these people think.
* It also explains why they won’t give exceptions for rape or incest. They will say that it’s not the babies fault as to how it got here. They will say God makes no mistakes and that SOUL deserves the right to live just as any other does.

These forced Birchers have been waiting for their pounds of flesh by voting republican for many years.
With a 5-4 Supreme Court now, they think God will lead America back to righteousness.
They won’t rest until their republican leaders find a way to overturn Roe.

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JI7

(89,247 posts)
5. it's about controlling and taking power away from women
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:54 AM
May 2019
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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
6. Yes. Fundamentalism is very Patriarchal. God the Father/God the Son.
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:59 AM
May 2019
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safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
8. Then God knows he is making hermaphrodites too.
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:12 AM
May 2019

just saying.

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luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
21. Thanks for your explanation.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:15 AM
May 2019

Seems to me that if this religious belief is the basis for the anti-abortion movement, then that would be in direct conflict with the U.S. Constitution's separation of church and state.

I've heard die-hard Catholics aver that Catholic doctrine states that life begins at conception (not true, folks!) so there again, Catholics are trying to change the laws of the land to conform to their religious belief.

And I will NEVER to refer to the movement as Pro-Life. It is anything but.......

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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
24. Oh no. These people DO NOT believe in church/state separation.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:22 AM
May 2019

They will tell you that we are a Christian nation.
They will tell you that all bad things that have happened in America is because the country has turned its back on God.
(E.g. taking prayer out of public schools).
They want a Christian Taliban led by Christian Dominionists (like Pence) to set policy.

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luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
28. Well sure, that's what THEY want.
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:19 AM
May 2019

But you DO have a Constitution.

And isn't it past time that their wants be brought to light in major ways so that the majority knows? I never see any discussion about this movement, either on broadcast or cable, nor even in social media. Everyone seems so damn afraid of exposing them, for fear of being called religious persecutionists.

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Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
29. It's all about maximizing the numbers of European-Americans while suppressing others.
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:20 AM
May 2019

In the perfect RW world abortion would be banned for some and mandatory for others. It has nothing to do with choice. See Richard Spencer.

[link:https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/alt-right-abortion-richard-spencer-upholds-margaret-sanger-eugenicist-legacy/|


On this understanding, abortion is a form of eugenics, helping to shape the population to produce more desirables and fewer undesirables. This is why Spencer supports the practice — not because he believes that it is a moral good or that women are owed the right to choose, but because he views it as a morally neutral tool that improves the American gene pool by making it whiter and richer.



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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. Counter balance
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:18 AM
May 2019

The sacred fetus was a deliberate scam. Prior to that shift, Baptist, Methodist and other clergy supported legal abortion because they had to soon bury women who had talked with them about their dilemma.
The conservatives who wanted to cut social programs that feed, house, and provide health care to poor families found their way in by exploiting the misogyny which drove the narrative that women who would have abortions are simply callous. Behind it all was a fear of white women who dared to not have enough children with white men.
White supremacy which had been conveniently rooted in the early religious right, abd an early manifestation of the eugenics movement was for families who were believed to have superior genetic make-up to make large contributions to their superior population. The women's movement and desegregation were simultaneous threats because white women having fewer children was complicated by increasing interracial relationships.
Policy initiatives which reduced spending on social programs exploited race. Thus, the "welfare mom" and her many children stereotype was intentionally not white, even though the majority of recipients have always necessarily been from the largest population.
The perceived threat of immigration has the same roots.

I'm not sure what it will take to satisfy their agenda but I don't think overturning Roe would be enough.

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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
7. God we have great candidates on our side. Every one of them I hear inspires me.
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:08 AM
May 2019

Put them all in. One will be president and the rest should make up the cabinet.

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pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
9. Except it would take away from the need to win the Senate in 2020.
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:13 AM
May 2019
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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
12. But only Hickenlooper, Bennett and Castro/O'Rourke
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:28 AM
May 2019

Are from states that have a Senate seat up for grabs in 2020.

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pazzyanne

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13. But if we take the Democrats running for 2020
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:34 AM
May 2019

and put them all in the cabinet, that opens up a lot of Democratic Senate seats in special elections.

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KitSileya

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15. Blue wave in 2020 could win us those special elections.
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:42 AM
May 2019

I hope so. I want the Repub party destroyed.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. Good for her! I've seen this done before, EXCEPT...
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:18 AM
May 2019

Good for her! I've seen this done before, EXCEPT she's not keeping half for herself. I think that speaks very highly of her character.

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KitSileya

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11. That's the kind of person she is!
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:25 AM
May 2019

Top quality!

Certainly puts a lie to certain "progressive writers" who claim our candidates are only in it to get rich!

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
17. Beto is doing the same thing
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:54 AM
May 2019

He even sent out an email asking his supporters to donate to Planned Parenthood.

The email said:

Legislators in Alabama passed a state law yesterday that criminalizes doctors and makes providing an abortion punishable by 99 years in prison. This is not only unconstitutional — it’s a radical attack on women across Alabama and America.

We won't back down when it comes to fully protecting Roe v. Wade, fighting dangerous efforts to roll back reproductive health care, and defending a woman’s right to access an abortion. We will fight these dangerous efforts with everything we’ve got in legislatures across the country, in the courts, and at the ballot box. We will win.

But it’s going to take all of us getting to work right away. If you can join us in stepping up at this moment, the groups that fight on the front lines of this battle need our help right now — from national groups like Planned Parenthood to local groups in Alabama like the Yellowhammer Fund.

Can you make a donation today to Planned Parenthood and Alabama’s Yellowhammer Fund? Your contributions will strengthen our fight to protect abortion care in Alabama and elsewhere at a time when it continues to be targeted by radical attacks.





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brer cat

(24,559 posts)
18. I'm glad to see this!
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:57 AM
May 2019

Kamala trying to make a difference NOW.

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BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. She's excellent!
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:18 AM
May 2019

All the Dem candidates are. They speak for us. Geez this really is a fight between Good and Evil....

Didn’t someone wise once say something about living in “interesting” times? 😕

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FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
25. This issue is only the latest in a cacophony of dire issues. But it sure is a wake up call.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:32 AM
May 2019

Good for Senator Harris for the right move on this.

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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. Good for Senator Harris
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:54 AM
May 2019

And all women and men that back their women should be even more riled up to vote against trump and the gop. This will backfire badly for trump and the hate group formerly known as the gop. Many of their issues are driving republicans away, and will make this next election even worse for trump and the hate group that supports him in Congress.

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
32. Textbook Dedication To Cause! Go, Kamala! (n/t)
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:27 PM
May 2019
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