Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNew Quinnipiac poll shows Biden ahead in all voter groups except "very liberal" Dems
and in that one Warren currently leads, 30% to 22% for Sanders and 19% for Biden.
Not sure what would worry Sanders more -- that he's losing that group to Warren, or that Biden's almost tying him with Dems who consider themselves very liberal.
Other internal numbers from this new national poll:
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2622
Biden leads with the "somewhat liberal" group, 26% to 22% for Sanders and only 9% for Warren.
Biden's far ahead with moderate/conservative Dems, 48% to 10% for Sanders and 6% for Warren.
Biden has a clear lead over Sanders and Warren with male voters (36% - 16% - 14%) and female voters (34% - 16% - 13%).
He has a clear lead with white voters (32% - 13% - 16%).
He has a clear lead with non-white voters (39% - 21% - 8%).
Whoops - just noticed he's tied with Bernie for voters age 18-49 (23% - 23% - 18%).
He has a clear lead with voters age 50+ (46% - 8% - 9%).
He has a clear lead with all three income groups surveyed:
<50k (40% - 21% - 10%)
50-100k ( 28% - 17% - 16%)
>100k (31% - 13% - 15%)
He also has a clear lead with people who say they're paying attention to the presidential campaign.
Among those who say they're paying a lot of attention, he leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.
Among those who say they're paying "some" attention, he leads 33% - 19% - 16%.
Only among those who say they're giving the campaign little or no attention does he lose that lead to Sanders, with Sanders getting 28% of that inattentive group to 23% for Biden and 5% for Warren.
So...
The poll suggests that the more liberal and younger AND less attentive a voter is, the more likely they are to support Sanders.
If they're very liberal and young AND paying a lot of attention to the campaign, they're more likely to support Warren than Sanders.
But Biden's well ahead with most groups -- including the groups that vote most reliably.
And it's also important to note that he has a bigger lead over Sanders and Warren among people who are Democrats (37% - 15% -13%) than among Democratic-leaning indepedents, though he still leads with that group by a wide margin (30% - 19% - 13%).
And please don't try telling me this is all "name recognition" at this point.
Especially with his roughly 30-point lead among voters who say they're paying a lot of attention to the campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)is a 30 something millennial.. and is not supporting him this time round.. He is supporting Warren.. He told us, he had to have a more positive way to turn and could not afford the ulcers of the last election again.. not sure what he meant by that.. but I was a O'Malley supporter so.. you know how well that worked out for me
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)Warren is a candidate of substance and of unity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,376 posts)...could that have something to do with it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,936 posts)I'm obviously a Joe supporter but I like Warren a great deal and I think her ideas are the future. I wish she was younger so she could see them along over the next couple of cycles. But with luck she'll bring along lots of others and remain a huge force in moving us left from a position of stability.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Elizabeth Warren is a Democrat everyday, All Day. Sanders just runs in Democratic Primaries but really is a Independent.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)why any progressive would prefer Sanders over Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)Thank You for your analysis, highplains
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)hear the argument that Biden's ahead only because people aren't paying much attention to the campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)that right away..
I see a lot of that even this morning.. that the "..only reason Biden is polling so high is name recognition". So that blows that right out of the water!
Mahalo!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)unicorns, residents of frozen hell and flying pigs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)...has higher favorables than unfavorables. This gives some cause for optimism as more people find out who he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)...even before they know who the Dem candidate will be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)than disaffected Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Democrats. People can lie to pollsters and polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vidal
(642 posts)Right now Biden has a commanding lead among all Dems, and in the subgroups that matter most in the Dem. primaries.
The numbers are very compelling.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,429 posts)Paying a lot of attention, Biden leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.
Paying "some" attention, Biden leads 33% - 19% - 16%.
That kind of blunts the claim of some here that the more people get to know Sanders, the better he'll do. Seems the opposite is the case, at least where this particular poll is concerned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)supporters think this is Sanders' turn and they don't really want to hear from, or about, any other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)another bad poll for Senator Sanders. Hm. Strange!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,951 posts)It's the Obama connection. If he hadn't been Obama's VP, he'd be just another candidate in the 8-10% category.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)president if anything happened to him.
That was one hell of an endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)No matter how much some people want to downplay it, they know that Biden has the advantage. For them to try and ignore it, or to tell others that it's "meaningless"... well... they're just whistling past the graveyard and trying to hide their own fear and dread.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Can you support it with hard numbers or objective evidence?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,951 posts)the best he did was finish 5th in Iowa with less than 1 percent support. He dropped out of the race that day.
If he hadn't been Obama's VP, he'd be as viable as Chris Dodd or Bill Richardson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_2008_presidential_campaign
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And that's what he needs to win! Why would he want to spend his resources trying to convince the Sarandon-wing of the party to vote for him. They'd end up not voting or voting for a Stein-like candidate anyway.
President Biden... people need to get used to saying it. President Biden. President Biden!
Vice President Harris. Vice President Warren. (I'm practicing... I know it's going to be one of those.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Link to tweet
Its an approach that, at first, seems at odds with where the party is going. Weve noted previously that Democrats are increasingly likely to identify themselves as liberals, a trend that probably helps explain why so many of the 2020 candidates have embraced progressive positions and why more progressive candidates have entered the race.
Polling, though, suggests that this may not be a foolproof strategy. For one thing, a crowd of more progressive candidates (an admittedly nebulous designation) will compete for the same voters, freeing Biden to vacuum up support from moderates. But polling also shows that Democrats overall arent necessarily prioritizing a candidate who espouses progressive policies. The data below are from a recent CNN-SSRS poll: More Democrats think its important for a nominee to work with Republicans than to support liberal policies.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden