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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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I like Joe Biden but (Original Post) cannabis_flower Mar 2019 OP
Yep!!! Definitely agree!!! This prohibition on marijuana is among one of the more stupid things RKP5637 Mar 2019 #1
Biden campaigned for Repug Upton roody Mar 2019 #2
Really? Unbelievable! cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #3
No, he didn't campaign for him, elleng Mar 2019 #8
He complimented Upton Joe Biden Mar 2019 #4
Right, was polite. elleng Mar 2019 #5
It seens to have involved a $200k spesking fee. CentralMass Mar 2019 #7
Wait a second! True Dough Mar 2019 #26
BS we can do it Mar 2019 #6
For the discussion... (I like Joe Biden) CentralMass Mar 2019 #9
Damn! Imagine the bloody OUTRAGE on DU if Bernie had done this! workinclasszero Mar 2019 #25
+1 CentralMass Mar 2019 #27
Cool story bro awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #12
He DID NOT do that. If Joe could not fully support the Dem choice, Blue_true Mar 2019 #22
Joe will be ready to respond. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #10
I think that there were a lot of people involved in this drug war mess which truly didn't solve ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #11
Yes, there are a lot of other people to blame but... cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #14
I thought he opposes marijuana legalization AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #13
So what? cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #16
I don't know if he changed his position on that AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #18
Someone can always.. cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #21
He needs to win and fix the mess Trump has made. Pisces Mar 2019 #15
That's all he needs to do if.. cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #17
The problem with a career as long as Biden's marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
I like Joe Biden and would support him if he runs Gothmog Mar 2019 #20
Since 2010. Blue_true Mar 2019 #23
And admit that extra bankruptcy protections for credit card companies was evil. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #24
 

RKP5637

(67,103 posts)
1. Yep!!! Definitely agree!!! This prohibition on marijuana is among one of the more stupid things
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

the US has done ... and it was all based on politics by Nixon to punish certain people in his mind.

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roody

(10,849 posts)
2. Biden campaigned for Repug Upton
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:42 PM
Mar 2019

In Michigan.

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
8. No, he didn't campaign for him,
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019

he was polite about him.

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Joe Biden

(8 posts)
4. He complimented Upton
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:48 PM
Mar 2019

That's all.

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elleng

(130,864 posts)
5. Right, was polite.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019
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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. It seens to have involved a $200k spesking fee.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019
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True Dough

(17,301 posts)
26. Wait a second!
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:24 AM
Mar 2019

You're Joe Biden, but you're supporting Pete Buttigieg?

MIND BLOWN!!!


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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. Damn! Imagine the bloody OUTRAGE on DU if Bernie had done this!
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

From your link:

Joe Biden gave a paid speech to a Republican-friendly crowd in Michigan, where the former vice president praised the work of a GOP congressman who was locked in a tight battle for reelection, calling Rep. Fred Upton “one of the finest guys I’ve ever worked with.” Upton— who touted Biden’s de facto endorsement at a debate the very next day—went on to defeat his Democratic challenger Matt Longjohn by 4.5 points in the battleground district.
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. He DID NOT do that. If Joe could not fully support the Dem choice,
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:25 AM
Mar 2019

he usually said nothing. He didn't announce that he could not support the Dem like Bernie did with Beto and a couple of other Dems.

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LakeArenal

(28,816 posts)
10. Joe will be ready to respond.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:57 PM
Mar 2019
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SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
11. I think that there were a lot of people involved in this drug war mess which truly didn't solve ...
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:11 PM
Mar 2019

anything anyways so a lot more people than Biden needs to be blamed too.

I'm not defending Biden but there were a lot more people involved in this whole mess in the 'war on drugs'.

Perhaps move on and do it right this time around, which seems to be happening now? E.g., legalized medical M, legalized M in lots of states. Concentrate limited resources on interdiction of 'hard' drugs and spend more on rehab processes (which obviously needs a lot more money too). We keep seeing these desired outcomes but results are sometimes lacking or scrawny.

One note...when drug money/shipments were seized by the police and/or other entities, they seized the assets supposed supplied by illegal drug money, and spent oftentimes the seized funds on themselves, equipment etc. In many cases this was excessive.

I didn't hear of any of these seized funds going to support rehab programs but I may be wrong here in this assumption. The court recently ruled on these types of seizures just recently too, putting an end to excessive asset seizures:

Last week's U.S. Supreme Court decision on the practice of civil asset forfeiture means that the Eighth Amendment's constitutional ban on excessive fines also applies to states (Feb 24, 19)

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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
14. Yes, there are a lot of other people to blame but...
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:26 PM
Mar 2019

most of them aren't running or considering running for President.

Bernie Sanders got elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1990. He served as a U.S. Representative for 16 years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2006. Here's an article about his vote for a the 1994 tough-on-crime law but he did as a compromise (https://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11116412/bernie-sanders-mass-incarceration) and has talked extensively about how this needs to change.
Everyone else running for President wasn't around back then.

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AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
13. I thought he opposes marijuana legalization
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:26 PM
Mar 2019
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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
16. So what?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019

A lot of politicians change their positions over the years. A lot of people didn't support gay rights a few years ago. Now they do - at least on the Democratic Party side.

Even quite a few Republicans have changed their views on marijuana legalization - I'm thinking John Boehner, Bob Barr and others.

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AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
18. I don't know if he changed his position on that
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:14 PM
Mar 2019
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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
21. Someone can always..
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:17 AM
Mar 2019

change their position on something, they just need to be convinced.

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Pisces

(5,599 posts)
15. He needs to win and fix the mess Trump has made.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019

That’s all.

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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
17. That's all he needs to do if..
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:50 PM
Mar 2019

he wins the primaries. I'd vote for him in the general, but if he wants my vote in the primaries he has some work to do.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
19. The problem with a career as long as Biden's
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:17 PM
Mar 2019

is that you end up having a hand in everything both good and bad, but the bad stuff will be used against you.

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Gothmog

(145,126 posts)
20. I like Joe Biden and would support him if he runs
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:18 PM
Mar 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Since 2010.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:35 AM
Mar 2019

We have had Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Orlando, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh. Yet Bernie has remained staunch progun. Bernie must also answer questions about equal pay for women and sexual harrassment since he had issues with both in 2016. The point is that ALL of the candidate standing on stage will have to explain why they chose a particular path. I support Hickenloooer, he should be asked and must answer why he supported fracking in his state and what his position on climate change is. How those questions get answered will determine who I vote for when the primary reaches my state on SEC Tuesday.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
24. And admit that extra bankruptcy protections for credit card companies was evil.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:55 AM
Mar 2019
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