Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhile teaching, Elizabeth Warren worked on more than 50 legal matters, charging as much as $675 an
Warrens presidential campaign released a list of 56 cases on her website on Wednesday night, revealing a far higher number of cases than Warren (D-Mass.) had previously disclosed and lending detail to an aspect of her career that she rarely discusses in public.
When she first ran for the Senate in 2012, Warren came under pressure from her Republican opponent and the news media to discuss her legal work. At the time, she released a list of just 13 cases without saying whether it represented a full accounting; at least one other case came to light during the race.
Elizabeth was one of the nations top experts on how to make sure victims hurt by bankrupt companies eventually got paid, Warrens website said Wednesday night. Throughout her career, she worked to help set up trusts and other mechanisms to return $27 billion to victims and their families.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/while-teaching-elizabeth-warren-worked-on-more-than-50-legal-matters-charging-as-much-as-675-an-hour/2019/05/22/9ce56840-7ce0-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)This won't hurt her in the least, Jeff. Try harder.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ponietz
(2,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,208 posts)Was she suppose to work for free?
It seems to me that some people have a problem with women who make their own money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)The article is getting completely ratioed on Twitter.
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Ninga
(8,275 posts)surely will.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)And you're probably right.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,317 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Partisan D
(43 posts)This is nothing. Yawn.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yawn.
I like Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Partisan D
(43 posts)Joe made it clear he's not slinging mud at any other Democrat. I will follow Joe's lead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Accomplished leading attorney in the field was paid market rate for work.
In other news, water is wet.
Is this "news" because she is a woman or something?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)Gosh, a law professor earning extra money by taking cases on the side! Oh, the humanity!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)triple tasking is a great thing. You go Liz.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
watoos
(7,142 posts)but her agenda and platform are closest to mine. I am liking her more and more.
Yes, I sport Tulsi's pic, I do so to defend her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dlk
(11,552 posts)This echoes the complaints about Hillary's "outrageous" speaking fees. Funny, it's never an issue when a man earns money.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)... then I am completely out of touch with how a good 'progressive' is supposed to behave.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,124 posts)is whether billing her time while she was also "on the clock" with the law school of if she was taking an adversarial role to the law school's interests. Otherwise, I believe that she is welcome to get paid whatever the market will bear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,801 posts)Many law professors are also in current practice, and law firms do rigorous checks for conflicts of interest under ethics rules. I find is almost impossible to think that Warren wouldn't have conformed to the highest ethical standards.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,124 posts)However, if she wasn't working for a law firm there wouldn't be anyone there to check for a conflict of interest.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The notion that there could be a conflict of interest between her and the school is absurd.
She's already an employee of the school, and thus inherently in a position of conflict because she and the school are on opposite sides of her employment contract. You want to see a clusterfuck sometime, then watch a group of law professors negotiate their working conditions with a law school. Hooo boy.
If she wanted to represent a party with a claim against the school, there would still be no conflict of interest. In fact, in regard to the relationship between faculty and the institution, there is ordinarily at least one faculty member who is the elected representative of the faculty in faculty/school matters. (e.g. https://www.wlu.edu/provosts-office/resources-for-faculty/committees/permanent-committees/faculty-representatives-to-the-board-of-trustees )
Law schools EXPECT professors to be publishing or consulting on actual litigation. The most frequent practice is drafting appellate briefs.
This story might as well be titled "Anteater Found Eating Ants". It is that fucking stupid. A law professor practicing law does not raise any interesting questions, ethical or otherwise.
This may come as a shock to some, but engineering schools expect professors to be doing engineering, medical schools expect professors to be doing medicine, and law schools expect professors to be doing law.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Law Professors aren't paid as hourly employees and most do things on the side like part time practices, writing and publishing. That is not only accepted, but encouraged where it lends some prestige or gravitas to the school. As long as they fulfill their duties, the school doesn't care what they do with the remainder of their time.
As for conflicts, it's pretty unlikely that there was any issue since 50 is a tiny number of cases. Plus, why raise it since it could be a "question" for any lawyer who takes any case at any time?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)with Harvard.
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Celerity
(43,317 posts)Bezos is truly worried.
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Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)So she could easily make much, much more money, but chooses to serve the public, especially the poor and underserved, instead.
Makes me love her more...
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)But it just reminds me of the difference between the top 1% or .1%... and me and the rest of us.
It's a depressing way to start the day.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Almost destroys my belief in supply & demand. Good for her!
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elias7
(3,997 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)Most teachers have second jobs/moonlight.
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centrarchus
(62 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,009 posts)I'm impressed.
Wait, that wasn't your intention with this op?
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mcar
(42,302 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
matt819
(10,749 posts)This sure is a non-story.
Lots of professors do work on the side. They publish books. They consult. If the market says that their rate is $675/hour, so be it. How much is the buffoon-in-chief paying his personal lawyers? I doubt they're billing at anything less than $750 per hour.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Similar lawyers charge between $1500 to $3000/hr
Also, SHE disclosed this and I have no problem with it whatsoever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shrek
(3,977 posts)Surely some of that goes to pay for overhead like office expenses, paralegals, office staff, and so on.
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madville
(7,408 posts)Breast implants to women? That's the only thing that looks interesting, everything else seems trivial.
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Recursion
(56,582 posts)And if she found a valid procedural protection for them, well, that was her job.
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Vinca
(50,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Recursion
(56,582 posts)with working the lecture circuit. It's starting again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden