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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:38 AM May 2019

If Joe Biden gets invited to do a Fox News town hall, do you think he should accept the invitation?

Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Klobuchar, and Sanders have already accepted.

Booker, Castro, Delaney, O'Rourke, and Swalwell said they would accept if invited.

Harris and Warren refused.

Do you think Joe Biden should do a Fox town hall if they invite him to do one?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If Joe Biden gets invited to do a Fox News town hall, do you think he should accept the invitation? (Original Post) mtnsnake May 2019 OP
I think he will do it. Not sure if he should but they are going to attack him regardless so... hlthe2b May 2019 #1
No Gothmog May 2019 #2
Yes, and anyone else invited should do so. elleng May 2019 #3
Absolutely not. Fox News needs to be marginalized and de-legitimized. Fuck them. NurseJackie May 2019 #4
How do you propose to "de-legitimze" them? brooklynite May 2019 #25
Seriously...its viewers had been watchin up to this point without its hosting Democratic townhalls. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #27
Nobody said they would. NurseJackie May 2019 #34
No. It's time to start giving those assholes the finger. Downtown Hound May 2019 #5
Usually a front runner takes fewer chances. So, no. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #6
No. we can do it May 2019 #7
No. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #8
I don't really care. It doesn't matter either way. Politicub May 2019 #9
Agree! TreasonousBastard May 2019 #17
Well said customerserviceguy May 2019 #36
Purity tests, as with pledges, are usually failed and/or Control-Z May 2019 #43
Yes to everything in your post! Politicub May 2019 #49
Yes. I'm with Bill Maher on this. RelativelyJones May 2019 #10
Nope! Little Star May 2019 #11
Yes. TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #12
Yes. cwydro May 2019 #13
Who is he going to reach, all three anit-trump repugs? brush May 2019 #16
after Mayor Pete got a standing ovation.. i think they are hungry for normalcy too... samnsara May 2019 #30
Were those even FOX Viewers or just audience participants? Drunken Irishman May 2019 #55
No, and he won't accept. brush May 2019 #14
NO. murielm99 May 2019 #15
Yes. The more air time he better. underpants May 2019 #18
I think... billpolonsky May 2019 #19
Another point of view is..... Doitnow May 2019 #38
Exactly right!! Rethugz will falsely accuse Joe of being scared to go on Fux... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #53
"Like Barack Obama was, a real president is a President of all American people." mtnsnake May 2019 #65
NOPE! abqtommy May 2019 #20
Yes. No fear. IluvPitties May 2019 #21
Yes, because it would totally infuriate IQ45! MoonRiver May 2019 #22
Best.Reason.Ever!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #31
No. Golden Raisin May 2019 #23
Absolutely! Donnie's annoyance level that this would cause would be awesome to see. Cousin Dupree May 2019 #24
yep.. samnsara May 2019 #26
I think he should and crucify foxnews and their people at every chance in comparison of the beachbum bob May 2019 #28
Beachbum bob..I agree n/t scardycat May 2019 #63
Each candidate has valid reasons to do or not do. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me GemDigger May 2019 #29
That's what I think. LakeArenal May 2019 #54
I have been a "no" on this but nevergiveup May 2019 #32
Yes. trev May 2019 #33
I did not think he should, but I think he will if asked still_one May 2019 #35
First of all... Mike Nelson May 2019 #37
Good answer TheRealNorth May 2019 #42
After he's the party's candidate, yes. WheelWalker May 2019 #39
Yes Comatose Sphagetti May 2019 #40
Think: Julius Caesar surrounded by senators "ides of March". oasis May 2019 #41
Highly experienced statesman. I don't care, Amimnoch May 2019 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #45
No. highplainsdem May 2019 #46
He probably will accept. I think he should not. W_HAMILTON May 2019 #47
Absolutely madville May 2019 #48
Hell no. Make them beg for it like Pelosi is making them beg for impeachment. Deb May 2019 #50
no. nt Kurt V. May 2019 #51
no ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #52
NO!! Fux guided by gopeee will later twist any dem candidates words into something unrecognizable Thekaspervote May 2019 #56
I would watch. Eric J in MN May 2019 #57
Yes. Avoiding white wing TV doesn't do us any good. I bet Biden Hoyt May 2019 #58
No robbedvoter May 2019 #59
no nini May 2019 #60
NO! demosincebirth May 2019 #61
No. Anyone who has done one has helped a racist propaganda network...nt SidDithers May 2019 #62
No, and I don't think he will. In fact they probably won't ask. ucrdem May 2019 #64
 

hlthe2b

(102,232 posts)
1. I think he will do it. Not sure if he should but they are going to attack him regardless so...
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019

at least some of the audience will see a very different Biden than what their own propagandists claim.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,143 posts)
2. No
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:42 AM
May 2019

Biden should ignore fox news

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. Yes, and anyone else invited should do so.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019

We must be seen WIDELY.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Absolutely not. Fox News needs to be marginalized and de-legitimized. Fuck them.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:47 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
25. How do you propose to "de-legitimze" them?
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:20 PM
May 2019

Viewers (including Democrats and Independents) won't look upon a Democratic candidate's avoidance as a sign that they shouldn't watch.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. Seriously...its viewers had been watchin up to this point without its hosting Democratic townhalls.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:25 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. Nobody said they would.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:36 PM
May 2019

Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Viewers (including Democrats and Independents) won't look upon a Democratic candidate's avoidance as a sign that they shouldn't watch.
Nobody said they would. But, you never know. It's more likely that a candidate's REJECTION of Fox News would do that, compared to a candidate treating Fox News as if they were anything other than the RW propaganda machine that they actually are. Why deny it? Why be contrary?

25. How do you propose to "de-legitimze" them?
Exactly as I said. By not bothering to show up in the first place. Why give them a little "feather" to display in their MAGA cap? Fox News is a cesspool. Why voluntarily swim in a cesspool? It serves no good purpose for a candidate to stoop so low and denigrate themselves, or to do things that cause their standards or integrity to be questioned.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
5. No. It's time to start giving those assholes the finger.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

This is the age of social media. There are plenty of other ways to get the message out without pandering to the worst that media has to offer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
6. Usually a front runner takes fewer chances. So, no.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:49 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
9. I don't really care. It doesn't matter either way.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019

I don't think it will gain votes nor do I think it will lose votes.

The argument about Fox using democrats to make the network more palatable to advertisers is more of an opinion than based in fact. As far as I can tell, no advertiser has returned to Fox after stopping their ads recently based on Pirro, Hannity and Carlson's noxious comments.

My opinion is that turning down Fox became a purity test for progressives more than something to attract republicans. And I hate HATE purity tests.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
36. Well said
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:47 PM
May 2019

Should Joe Biden be the one raising his right hand on 01/20/21, he knows that Job 1 will be to try to reunite the country. And, yes, that means saying that he is the president of red-state America, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
43. Purity tests, as with pledges, are usually failed and/or
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:01 PM
May 2019

Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

broken by the politicians who are most anxious to sign the pledge or make the promise in the first place, it seems. And when it happens it may cause some angst and infighting but is then quickly forgotten as a reason to or not to vote for someone.

Big waste of time, at best, imo. You can be sure that Republicans will use it against us though, if they can.

ETA: Fixed a typo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
49. Yes to everything in your post!
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

There's no benefit to the nominee -- only risk -- to indulge in purity pledges.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
10. Yes. I'm with Bill Maher on this.
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Yes.
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:05 PM
May 2019

I was originally against our candidates going on FOX. I despise FOX.

But, we never know who we might reach.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,771 posts)
16. Who is he going to reach, all three anit-trump repugs?
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:17 PM
May 2019

I don't think Joe will give that repug propaganda network license to try to legitimize itself as an actual news outlet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
30. after Mayor Pete got a standing ovation.. i think they are hungry for normalcy too...
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:27 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
55. Were those even FOX Viewers or just audience participants?
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:13 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,771 posts)
14. No, and he won't accept.
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:13 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,785 posts)
18. Yes. The more air time he better.
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:40 PM
May 2019

That was the key for Trump free advertising

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

billpolonsky

(270 posts)
19. I think...
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:49 PM
May 2019

...it's important to reach as many people as possible even if they are in the "enemy camp"..

People who voted for Trump are leaving the sinking ship now is the time to put your point across to those voters.

Like Barack Obama was, a real president is a President of all American people.

A fact that Donald Trump doesn't seem to understand.

I'd like to see Joe Biden and all Democratic candidates reach out to as many people as possible in this election. Let them see what real possibilities Democratic candidates offer.

My 2 cents.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
38. Another point of view is.....
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:55 PM
May 2019

Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I take it as a challenge and an opportunity to point out the harm Trump Party is doing to our country and the world. The Trump people certainly won't get this information when all they listen to is Fox. If our candidates can't debate the people on Fox, what will they be like when confronted with Trump in a debate who probably won't show even up for debates in the general.) He may say he's so far ahead, he doesn't have to appear.

Bernie got lots of credit for his appearance. It took courage. That's what is needed in a leader. Bernie seems to be good at that. A leader, I'd say.

As far as his just repeating the same old thing all the time. Well, the SAME old problems are still around and they are all coming to a head at the same time. It's no time to be wishy-washy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
53. Exactly right!! Rethugz will falsely accuse Joe of being scared to go on Fux...
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:53 PM
May 2019

and wrongly question his ability to handle foreign powers menacing the world if he won't even do a Faux News town hall, like many of his Democratic colleagues. Though I don't agree it SHOULD be, that WILL be the argument, which, therefore, should be avoided at all costs.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
65. "Like Barack Obama was, a real president is a President of all American people."
Mon May 27, 2019, 08:03 AM
May 2019

Nice post with some excellent points that make total sense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
22. Yes, because it would totally infuriate IQ45!
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. Best.Reason.Ever!!
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:27 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
24. Absolutely! Donnie's annoyance level that this would cause would be awesome to see.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:15 PM
May 2019

And you never know. He may get through to some people who are on the fence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
28. I think he should and crucify foxnews and their people at every chance in comparison of the
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:26 PM
May 2019

treatment they gave Obama vs trump.

He will score big points

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scardycat

(169 posts)
63. Beachbum bob..I agree n/t
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:20 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
29. Each candidate has valid reasons to do or not do. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:26 PM
May 2019

nor what I think should matter to them. They are individually unique and that is what makes each of them, them. If they all do the same thing then they are all the same and no need to have an election, just pull a name out of a hat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
54. That's what I think.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:01 PM
May 2019

Joe can do whatever he thinks best. It’s his campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nevergiveup

(4,759 posts)
32. I have been a "no" on this but
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:29 PM
May 2019

have changed my mind. I say go for it. It drives Trump crazy!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

trev

(1,480 posts)
33. Yes.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:30 PM
May 2019

I think all the Dems should go on Fox. It's the only place and time the Reps will hear us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,174 posts)
35. I did not think he should, but I think he will if asked
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:38 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
37. First of all...
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:54 PM
May 2019

… this is not a deal-breaker, for me. Some have decided to do one, and some have not... they decide what is best for their campaigns and use FOX to achieve their ends. I'm okay with their different decisions.

… given that, down to specifics. Biden is a different case, because he is the front-runner. So far, he has avoided events that would place him in a direct hit of challenging questions from the likes of Chris Wallace or random audience members. He will need to get these done, in order to prepare... so, I think he should ask himself, "Am I ready for this?" because FOX will want to "take him down" for Crooked Donald. If he feels like he's ready to do something live and challenging, go for it... if he thinks not, don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
42. Good answer
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:43 PM
May 2019

Fox will be gunning for him- so he better prepare for questions and other shit that will try to drive wedges between him and women, people of color (Anita Hill).

I kinda agree with the idea that we shouldn't legitimize Faux News, but if a candidate wants to try it's not huge issue for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
39. After he's the party's candidate, yes.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:15 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
40. Yes
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:11 PM
May 2019

Fox viewers have been conditioned to believe anyone with a "D" after their name is Satan incarnate (and that is not hyperbole).
An interview provides the opportunity to prove them wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,378 posts)
41. Think: Julius Caesar surrounded by senators "ides of March".
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:19 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
44. Highly experienced statesman. I don't care,
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:04 PM
May 2019

Whatever he decides it will be done with much thought, consideration, and be the best for the campaign and the party as a whole.

I will trust in his highly experienced judgement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to mtnsnake (Original post)

 

W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
47. He probably will accept. I think he should not.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madville

(7,408 posts)
48. Absolutely
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:37 PM
May 2019

It would be stupid to not do it, avoiding Fox makes a candidate look weak and scared.

How is a President going to go toe-to-toe with Putin if they can't even face the right wing here?

Besides, Joe's platform is Unity-based, unifying everyone, that means you have to speak to everyone and Fox is the best platform for that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Deb

(3,742 posts)
50. Hell no. Make them beg for it like Pelosi is making them beg for impeachment.
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)
56. NO!! Fux guided by gopeee will later twist any dem candidates words into something unrecognizable
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:14 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
57. I would watch.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:18 PM
May 2019

As a supporter of another candidate, I can’t say what Joe Biden should do to try to win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
58. Yes. Avoiding white wing TV doesn't do us any good. I bet Biden
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:19 PM
May 2019

will do well, just like the other candidates who have appeared on FOX.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
59. No
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:38 PM
May 2019

None of them should go on the Nazi TV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nini

(16,672 posts)
60. no
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

it's legitimizes the propaganda network.. just no.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
62. No. Anyone who has done one has helped a racist propaganda network...nt
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:23 PM
May 2019

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
64. No, and I don't think he will. In fact they probably won't ask.
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:42 AM
May 2019

They're nice to also-rans because they pose an obstacle to the actual Dem candidate. Since Biden is the likely candidate, and Fox loves Trump, they won't be as nice to Biden. He knows this, and he knows what Warren and Harris have said. Since he's doing fine without Fox, I think he'll find a polite way of declining publicly if he has to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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