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lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:44 PM May 2019

Bernie Sanders returns home to reset 2020 presidential bid

Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Three months after formally announcing a 2020 presidential bid in his birthplace of Brooklyn, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders returned to his home state of Vermont on Saturday for a capital city rally planned as a morale-refueling pit stop as he aims to regain the lead in his Democratic primary race.

“In this pivotal and unprecedented moment in American history, I am here today to ask for your support,” he told a surprisingly underwhelming crowd of a few thousand supporters at a Statehouse event that campaign and city officials had anticipated would draw a larger audience of 3,000 to 5,000 people.

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Many Montpelier residents weren’t sure what Saturday’s program would serve up, what with a forecast for rain, flashing signs along Interstate 89 warning “Event at Statehouse/Expect Delays” and talk that locals were grocery shopping early as if the capital city was about to be hit by a storm.

Although several city officials and the press estimated the crowd at more than 1,000 supporters rather than the 3,000 to 5,000 anticipated, the Sanders campaign reported “our crowd count today was closer to 3,000.”

Whatever the number, attendees had enough room to unfold picnic blankets on the sun-splashed lawn as Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Brandi Carlile performed as the opening act.


https://vtdigger.org/2019/05/25/bernie-sanders-returns-home-reset-2020-presidential-bid/
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Bernie Sanders returns home to reset 2020 presidential bid (Original Post) lapucelle May 2019 OP
I watched the speech. It was astonishingly limp. nolabear May 2019 #1
That's been my take this entire campaign Docreed2003 May 2019 #3
Yogi Berra said it best: George II May 2019 #6
... Me. May 2019 #7
Lol...+1 Docreed2003 May 2019 #8
I've read it wasn't much better in Cha May 2019 #25
That was very interesting. Birmingham, AL is about 64.5% black. MineralMan May 2019 #38
I read 73.4% in wikipedia. FreeBe May 2019 #41
I might have looked at the 2000 data. MineralMan May 2019 #43
Right. FreeBe May 2019 #45
Bernie got to meet Dr. King's statue. nt Blue_true May 2019 #61
Not going to happen BS we can do it May 2019 #2
Only a thousand people showed up in his home state? George II May 2019 #4
I think he started tanking customerserviceguy May 2019 #18
Hmmm. I remember so many thought it was a fine idea. Kahuna7 May 2019 #21
A number on DU thought it was a fine idea peggysue2 May 2019 #27
.... Kahuna7 May 2019 #33
Only his fans thought it was a good idea. comradebillyboy May 2019 #37
I think the same thing, what a cock-up Celerity May 2019 #58
Small crowd in Vermont bahrbearian May 2019 #23
The population of Vermont is almost 93% White, non-Hispanic susanr516 May 2019 #57
Link? Agschmid May 2019 #5
Not much of a "revolution" if riverine May 2019 #9
Regain the lead? DavidDvorkin May 2019 #10
Before Biden was in the race (n/t) thesquanderer May 2019 #13
According to what poll? DavidDvorkin May 2019 #19
Any poll of declared candidates. ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer May 2019 #32
He didn't have it then either... Kahuna7 May 2019 #22
I think since Biden hadn't entered yet, they are not counting Biden. FreeBe May 2019 #42
One time. Like I said.... Kahuna7 May 2019 #49
O.k. FreeBe May 2019 #50
I see he's changed his campaign color scheme to GREEN. I wonder what that means. NurseJackie May 2019 #11
Maybe he's planning a future run for Governor of the Green Mountain State? George II May 2019 #12
What else could green mean? Maybe Briebrie should clarify. lapucelle May 2019 #14
Perhaps Jill Stein will tap him as her running mate this time around? George II May 2019 #15
An excellent idea. I'm always in favor of setting challenging, yet REALISTIC realistic goals. NurseJackie May 2019 #17
Perhaps this time around it will be better for him. ehrnst May 2019 #35
Green new deal? Politicub May 2019 #20
Separate himself from Cha May 2019 #24
He's separate all right. Not even a member of the party. Only votes with Dems 80% of the time... NurseJackie May 2019 #26
I am even an establishment Democrat. Having established myself voting Democratic a lifetime. FreeBe May 2019 #44
If I had replied to this post NJ, calguy May 2019 #53
Blue is establishment. betsuni May 2019 #30
Ha! Love it! NurseJackie May 2019 #31
Between the green and the I, I think he has made it pretty clear to us Democrats. FreeBe May 2019 #34
Has the party been taken? Has the party been betrayed? Is he sending a message? NurseJackie May 2019 #36
Regardless of if trying to get the Stein votes, pisses me off once again setting himself separate FreeBe May 2019 #46
That's intriguing. MrsCoffee May 2019 #39
Good to know that I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way. NurseJackie May 2019 #40
The color was intentional. FreeBe May 2019 #47
My guess is to associate subliminally with AOC and the GND. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #52
Sounds like a fun event, much better than the chit show my weekend turned out to be. nt yaesu May 2019 #16
It sounds like the turnout was disappointing Gothmog May 2019 #28
Apparently people heard it might rain, and there was a run on the supermarkets. lapucelle May 2019 #29
A reset is often the beginning of the end. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #48
Usually the sign of that is when campaign staff leave... brooklynite May 2019 #59
What sane candidate would touch anyone on Bernie's campaign staff? comradebillyboy May 2019 #60
The thrill is gone BannonsLiver May 2019 #51
... lapucelle May 2019 #56
..... tishaLA May 2019 #54
.... lapucelle May 2019 #55
 

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
1. I watched the speech. It was astonishingly limp.
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:52 PM
May 2019

I don’t say that to bash, I was curious since there was such a fan fest last time. This was just uninspired. Bernie was just Bernie but the crowd, the intros (Shaun King tried) was just wooden. And white and fairly but not astoundingly young. Maybe just Vermont.

The whole thing seems gassed out.

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Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
3. That's been my take this entire campaign
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:00 PM
May 2019

Bernie seems to be trying to recapture "the magic", of you will, of 2016 by...well, going about his campaign like it's 2016. Most of us have heard the stump speech or some variation of it previously and it's the same thing, every event.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Yogi Berra said it best:
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:17 PM
May 2019
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Cha

(296,814 posts)
25. I've read it wasn't much better in
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:54 PM
May 2019
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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
38. That was very interesting. Birmingham, AL is about 64.5% black.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:15 AM
May 2019

You'd think some of its black population would show up for a Bernie Sanders rally there. I think I saw one or two PoC in the photos at that link, but that was it.

Clearly, the black community is not generally in support of Bernie Sanders, or more would have been there. I suppose if he became the Democratic nominee, PoC voters would vote for him, but many might not bother to turn out at all.

I think the Bernie Sanders campaign is running out of steam. Perhaps it ran out of steam after the 2016 convention, but didn't realize it.

Politics is fickle. What was interesting four years ago might not be very interesting now, especially with 24 candidates vying for people's votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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FreeBe

(104 posts)
41. I read 73.4% in wikipedia.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:49 PM
May 2019

According to the 2010 census:[15]

73.4% Black/African American
22.3% White
0.2% Native American
1.0% Asian
0.04% Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander
1.0% Two or more races
2.0% Other races
3.6% Hispanic or Latino (of any race)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama

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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
43. I might have looked at the 2000 data.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:53 PM
May 2019

In any case, you'd expect to see some African-American attendees if there was any interest in Bernie Sanders. Apparently, there is not.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
61. Bernie got to meet Dr. King's statue. nt
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:16 AM
May 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Only a thousand people showed up in his home state?
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:11 PM
May 2019
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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
18. I think he started tanking
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:06 PM
May 2019

when he called for voting rights for the Boston Marathon bomber. Most all of New England was sympathetic to "Boston Strong" in the days after the bombing, and to give that little puke anything other than three meals a day and a cold slab to sleep on is way too generous for him.

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
21. Hmmm. I remember so many thought it was a fine idea.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
27. A number on DU thought it was a fine idea
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:36 PM
May 2019

Out in the Hinterlands where the electorate actually lives? Not so much.

Said from the start it was a losing position. But oh no, we had to read umpteen justifications and freedom of speech rants and . . . whatever.

Stupid position, start to finish.

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comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
37. Only his fans thought it was a good idea.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Celerity

(43,090 posts)
58. I think the same thing, what a cock-up
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:27 PM
May 2019
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bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
23. Small crowd in Vermont
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:10 PM
May 2019

he is tanking , all white people.

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Undecided
 

susanr516

(1,425 posts)
57. The population of Vermont is almost 93% White, non-Hispanic
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:37 PM
May 2019

So, it doesn't surprise me that the crowd is all white. However, those Birmingham pictures certainly don't bode well for Bernie's future. If he can't get the votes of POC, Bernie has no chance in the D primaries here in the South. (I'm in TX.) I would assume he would face a similar predicament in the more heavily Hispanic states, like TX and CA.

I don't know, maybe it's my own bias, but I think presidential candidates over 70 are too old. I am a sr. citizen, btw.

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Undecided
 

riverine

(516 posts)
9. Not much of a "revolution" if
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:38 PM
May 2019

you ask me.

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DavidDvorkin

(19,465 posts)
10. Regain the lead?
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:39 PM
May 2019

When did he have the lead?

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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
13. Before Biden was in the race (n/t)
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:48 PM
May 2019
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DavidDvorkin

(19,465 posts)
19. According to what poll?
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:08 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
32. Any poll of declared candidates. ;-) (n/t)
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
22. He didn't have it then either...
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:58 PM
May 2019

The Emerson poll showed him with a slight lead just before Biden announced, but that was a very rare occurrence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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FreeBe

(104 posts)
42. I think since Biden hadn't entered yet, they are not counting Biden.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:52 PM
May 2019

Sanders never had a lead with Biden that I ever saw.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
49. One time. Like I said....
Mon May 27, 2019, 03:07 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I see he's changed his campaign color scheme to GREEN. I wonder what that means.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019

Look at those signs in the crowd. Handed out by the rally organizers, obviously.

So... I see he's changed his campaign color scheme to GREEN. I wonder what that means. Is that part of the "reboot" and the change in messaging?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Maybe he's planning a future run for Governor of the Green Mountain State?
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:45 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
14. What else could green mean? Maybe Briebrie should clarify.
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:53 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Perhaps Jill Stein will tap him as her running mate this time around?
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. An excellent idea. I'm always in favor of setting challenging, yet REALISTIC realistic goals.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:02 PM
May 2019

An excellent idea. I'm always in favor of setting challenging, yet REALISTIC realistic goals. That's something that I hope he considers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
35. Perhaps this time around it will be better for him.
Mon May 27, 2019, 07:53 AM
May 2019

Hopefully, a woman won't run against him. That seems to get him into situtations where he makes gaffes.

There will likely be no person of color who would run against him, so there's that.

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Cha

(296,814 posts)
24. Separate himself from
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:50 PM
May 2019

the BlueWave?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. He's separate all right. Not even a member of the party. Only votes with Dems 80% of the time...
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:09 PM
May 2019

He's separate all right. Not even a member of the party. Only votes with Dems 80% of the time.

Is he trying to (not so) subtly let us know that he's "green" instead of "blue"... if so that's fine. And, if that's what he's doing, it confirms what many have long suspected anyway. Truth-in-advertising as they say.

Personally, I'm not "green"... I'm not "red". I'm a true BLUE and honest-to-goodness DEMOCRAT! I'm not a pretend Democrat. I'm not in disguise. I'm not pretending to be something that I'm not.

I don't need to send "signals" or clues, or subtle messages, or secret signs. I'm a PROUD DEMOCRAT... TRUE BLUE ALL THE WAY!!


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FreeBe

(104 posts)
44. I am even an establishment Democrat. Having established myself voting Democratic a lifetime.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:54 PM
May 2019
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Undecided
 

calguy

(5,292 posts)
53. If I had replied to this post NJ,
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:46 PM
May 2019

I would have said exactly what you just said. Except .... You said it much better than I ever could.

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betsuni

(25,376 posts)
30. Blue is establishment.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:24 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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FreeBe

(104 posts)
34. Between the green and the I, I think he has made it pretty clear to us Democrats.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:11 AM
May 2019

That was bold.

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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. Has the party been taken? Has the party been betrayed? Is he sending a message?
Mon May 27, 2019, 10:58 AM
May 2019
Between the green and the I, I think he has made it pretty clear to us Democrats.
Has the party been taken? Has the party been betrayed? Is he sending a message? Or is it just a meaningless "coincidence" that has absolutely nothing at all to do with the Green party?

I think voters can figure it out on their own, but and honest answer from the campaign is in order.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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FreeBe

(104 posts)
46. Regardless of if trying to get the Stein votes, pisses me off once again setting himself separate
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:57 PM
May 2019

From Democrats while running in our Democratic primary asking for the Democratic base vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. Good to know that I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:31 AM
May 2019

Good to know that I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way. It's not just some "random" color choice because someone was bored with the previous color scheme.

The fact that he's changed his color scheme to GREEN(!!!) at a "reboot" event (well uh, a do-over) tells me that the BS campaign is keenly aware that it's lost its footing... that's it's faltering and floundering.

All I'm saying here (and I'm not the only one) is that if this was his big "reboot/do-over" event to energize and kick-start his failing campaign, then the GREEN(!!) color was intentional. It was BY DESIGN. It's yet another not-so-subtle slap in the face and insult to the Democratic party and to loyal Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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FreeBe

(104 posts)
47. The color was intentional.
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:59 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
52. My guess is to associate subliminally with AOC and the GND. nt
Mon May 27, 2019, 03:17 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
16. Sounds like a fun event, much better than the chit show my weekend turned out to be. nt
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
28. It sounds like the turnout was disappointing
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:12 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
29. Apparently people heard it might rain, and there was a run on the supermarkets.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:16 PM
May 2019

Also many farmers couldn't take the day off because...farming.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
48. A reset is often the beginning of the end. nt
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:08 PM
May 2019
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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
59. Usually the sign of that is when campaign staff leave...
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:41 PM
May 2019

Oh, right.....

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comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
60. What sane candidate would touch anyone on Bernie's campaign staff?
Tue May 28, 2019, 12:08 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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