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Biden tweet from Texas a few minutes ago (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
Thank you, Joe - you are doing a great job! Skya Rhen May 2019 #1
Yeah. That's the stuff. LakeArenal May 2019 #2
That's the stuff that a real president would do RainCaster May 2019 #3
Trump has responded thusly: 11 Bravo May 2019 #4
can you please give me Biden's tweet on the Mueller presser and what is his opinion on Barr's lying Celerity May 2019 #5
Biden campaign: Impeachment 'may be unavoidable' now: MrsCoffee May 2019 #7
thanks! Celerity May 2019 #8
In other words...no impeachment now or soon. Continue investigations of whatever. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #13
Not necessarily. Yours is only one of many possible inferences. LanternWaste May 2019 #21
"Impeachment may be unavoidable" is self-explanatory. It means maybe, but maybe not.nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #22
No. It means what it says which is "The House may have to impeach." emmaverybo May 2019 #32
"May." Not "will." Not "should." Not "probably." Not "likely." Maybe, maybe not. As I said.nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #34
So? In any case, the votes are not there. It is not up to Biden. Try to convince House members. emmaverybo May 2019 #35
Right Vidal May 2019 #36
Impeachment could cost us the house and the presidency...you all may feel 'good' about it but not so Demsrule86 May 2019 #14
+1 BannonsLiver May 2019 #17
It is a waste with no chance of conviction and everything to lose. Demsrule86 May 2019 #18
Agree. How bout we work on forestalling the next Russian attack? emmaverybo May 2019 #33
That works for me. Demsrule86 May 2019 #37
.@NEAMedia issues statement praising Joe Biden's education policy Cha May 2019 #6
The fed doesn't control state teacher pay or school districts & school taxes. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #9
not directly Vidal May 2019 #10
Okay, that's what I thought. The fed doesn't have control over that. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #12
A number of other candidates have said they will raise teacher pay...funny no one said anything Demsrule86 May 2019 #15
Another candidate said he/she WILL raise teacher pay? Who? Honeycombe8 May 2019 #16
Harris has for sure...and there are others. Demsrule86 May 2019 #19
Oh. I don't follow her. She's okay, but not one I'm zeroing in on. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #20
Sanders. He called for $60k salary minimum for teachers, IIRC. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #23
I don't follow him, either. With several saying that, maybe the fed has control over salaries?nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #25
No, it does not. When candidates make statements like that, I'm assuming they're talking about WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #26
I see. Then that's what the candidates should say. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #27
Horse, barn, etc. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #29
In my state, teachers are state employees. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #30
Yeah...see, that's what I thought. We pay state/district school taxes & such. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #31
... Scurrilous May 2019 #11
I heard that the Houston meeting was a good event Gothmog May 2019 #24
Or by the needs of business, as fascist Scott Walker Hortensis May 2019 #28
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
1. Thank you, Joe - you are doing a great job!
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:59 PM
May 2019
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LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
2. Yeah. That's the stuff.
Wed May 29, 2019, 04:06 PM
May 2019
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RainCaster

(10,842 posts)
3. That's the stuff that a real president would do
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:28 PM
May 2019
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11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
4. Trump has responded thusly:
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:34 PM
May 2019

No education! NO education! YOU'RE the education! Wait ... what?

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Celerity

(43,141 posts)
5. can you please give me Biden's tweet on the Mueller presser and what is his opinion on Barr's lying
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:38 PM
May 2019

and also on the question of at least opening an impeachment enquiry.

TIA

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
7. Biden campaign: Impeachment 'may be unavoidable' now:
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:50 PM
May 2019
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/446031-biden-campaign-impeachment-may-be-unavoidable-now


Former Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign took its strongest position yet on impeachment of President Trump on Wednesday, with the campaign saying it “may be unavoidable” in the wake of special counsel Robert Mueller’s remarks earlier that day.

~~

In his remarks Wednesday, Mueller emphasized that while his investigation should not be interpreted as an exoneration of Trump, Justice Department policy prevented him from charging a sitting president with a crime.

“The Special Counsel made clear that it is incumbent that Congress pick up the pieces of his report on which he did not reach definitive conclusions or that he could not act upon due to Department of Justice guidance,” the statement reads. “Congress must do everything in its power to hold this Administration to account. That is what Congress is doing and should do: continue to investigate.”

The Biden campaign’s emphasis on allowing congressional investigations to play out echoes that of Democratic congressional leadership. Earlier this month, after reportedly initially pressing Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to be more open to impeachment, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) counseled patience on the various House investigations, citing court victories in House Democrats’ efforts to subpoena various records from the White House and Trump’s businesses.

Biden’s statement accuses the Trump administration of “throwing up roadblocks” against congressional investigations and calls Attorney General William Barr’s investigation into the origins of the Russia probe an “extraordinary internal vendetta against law enforcement and intelligence community investigators who were doing their job.”
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. In other words...no impeachment now or soon. Continue investigations of whatever.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:55 AM
May 2019

Sidestepping a bit. Impeachment may be unavoidable. Maybe. At some point in the future. Maybe. Don't know when. If ever.

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Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Not necessarily. Yours is only one of many possible inferences.
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:37 PM
May 2019

A long and winding inference, lacking any substance to support it as well.

But I get it... we often tell ourselves what best suits our narrative, and deny all other possibilities. Like really bad B-movies.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. "Impeachment may be unavoidable" is self-explanatory. It means maybe, but maybe not.nt
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:48 PM
May 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
32. No. It means what it says which is "The House may have to impeach."
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. "May." Not "will." Not "should." Not "probably." Not "likely." Maybe, maybe not. As I said.nt
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:49 PM
May 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
35. So? In any case, the votes are not there. It is not up to Biden. Try to convince House members.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:48 PM
May 2019
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Vidal

(642 posts)
36. Right
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:52 PM
May 2019

it's up to the House

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Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
14. Impeachment could cost us the house and the presidency...you all may feel 'good' about it but not so
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:04 AM
May 2019

much in January 2021...if Trump gets another four years with unlimited power.

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BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
17. +1
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:47 AM
May 2019

But hey it’ll feel good and itches will be scratched. So you know, there’s that, which is way cooler than the house or WH!1!1

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Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
18. It is a waste with no chance of conviction and everything to lose.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:07 PM
May 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
33. Agree. How bout we work on forestalling the next Russian attack?
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:26 PM
May 2019
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Cha

(296,893 posts)
6. .@NEAMedia issues statement praising Joe Biden's education policy
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:39 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. The fed doesn't control state teacher pay or school districts & school taxes.
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:52 PM
May 2019

Or does it? I didn't think so.

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Vidal

(642 posts)
10. not directly
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:58 PM
May 2019

you are right, but there could conceivably be federal money authorized for this, through the Dept of Education.

Plus a president can influence what state governments do, and they can have an impact on state teacher salaries.

Plus, Biden is running for president and it makes a good sound bite.

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Honeycombe8

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12. Okay, that's what I thought. The fed doesn't have control over that.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:49 AM
May 2019

Raising teachers' salaries continues on into the future. The fed could do something for now or for a short while, but doesn't have control over teachers' salaries. That's what I thought.

Sound bite.

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Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
15. A number of other candidates have said they will raise teacher pay...funny no one said anything
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:06 AM
May 2019

about the feds vs the states.

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Honeycombe8

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16. Another candidate said he/she WILL raise teacher pay? Who?
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

I haven't seen that.

No matter who says that, my response would be the same. Candidates usually say teacher salaries SHOULD be raised, not that he will raise them. But I haven't seen the others say that. To be fair, I only pay attention to several of the candidates, since I'm not interested in the others.

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Demsrule86

(68,504 posts)
19. Harris has for sure...and there are others.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:10 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

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20. Oh. I don't follow her. She's okay, but not one I'm zeroing in on. nt
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:13 PM
May 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,309 posts)
23. Sanders. He called for $60k salary minimum for teachers, IIRC.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:49 PM
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Honeycombe8

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25. I don't follow him, either. With several saying that, maybe the fed has control over salaries?nt
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:16 PM
May 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

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26. No, it does not. When candidates make statements like that, I'm assuming they're talking about
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:23 PM
May 2019

bringing the influence of the federal government in general or their bully pulpit in particular to bear.

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Honeycombe8

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27. I see. Then that's what the candidates should say.
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:25 PM
May 2019

Otherwise, they're giving the impression that they can raise salaries.

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LuvNewcastle

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30. In my state, teachers are state employees.
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:37 PM
May 2019

I don't know if the federal government has regulations on teacher pay, but it's always the legislature who handles pay raises in Mississippi. They've been fighting over it since I was in school. I graduated in 1987.

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Honeycombe8

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31. Yeah...see, that's what I thought. We pay state/district school taxes & such. nt
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:44 PM
May 2019
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Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
24. I heard that the Houston meeting was a good event
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:11 PM
May 2019
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Or by the needs of business, as fascist Scott Walker
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:26 PM
May 2019

would have it as he worked to eliminate studies in humanities from state college curricula.

Go, Joe! In the information age, higher education especially should be both far better and less expensive than ever before.

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