Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMayor Pete is one of the gutsiest candidates to ever come along. He is quickly becoming a rock star
When it comes to tearing Trump a new one, I think Mayor Pete is #1 in that category, not just because he is so gutsy with what he has to say about Trump, but he does it in such a remarkable fashion. And whenever he nails Trump, he does it like a true gentleman which makes it even more effective.
When this campaign first started, I never would have thought in a million years that Mayor Pete would have a chance to make a dent, let alone overtake Biden, Sanders or any of the other more well-known candidates, but every time he opens his mouth I am more and more impressed with his delivery. For someone who entered this race with barely any name recognition at all, he is quickly becoming one of the most popular candidates to ever run for President, at least since Obama ran.
Pete Buttigieg is really sharp. Plus he's likeable, tough, and incredibly intelligent which equals a winning combination. I think the thing that surprised me the most about Mayor Pete is his confidence. He swims in it. He believes deep down that he is going to be the next President. All he lacks is public exposure, but once he gets a ton of that in the debates, everyone else better look out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MBS
(9,688 posts)You just narrated the exact route by which I ended up with him as my favorite candidates of the moment.
Especially this:
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He has this disarming and positive way of pointing out hard truths.
I have high hopes for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,234 posts)Honestly, I think he may get even some of the brainwashed troops to think about their unquestioned support of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)But he's going to make some noise and be a voice for the party
and if he falls short, he'll contend in the years ahead.
I'm impressed with all of the top candidates.
But I really like Pete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)He has a delivery and intensity matched by very few other politicians, plus he comes off as so sincere, intelligent, and spot on. It's hard to disagree with just about anything he ever says.
https://www.axios.com/pete-buttigieg-trump-vietnam-bone-spurs-a8613a37-6166-468a-b3ae-7daa341b645b.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)It's based on prejudices - because he is gay, I doubt he is going to get a fair shake.
His intellect, demeanor, sincerity, etc is Obamaesque (if there is such a word).
I'm very impressed with him and like you, I agree with much of what he says.
He's going to be formidable in the debates. The other candidates will have a tough time with him there because he handles himself so well.
He would destroy Trump in a debate - in a very classy way.
I'm excited about his candidacy. There's a darn good chance if he doesn't win the nomination that he will someday soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The gay thing. Hopefully most of that is in the Repub Party, but I think the Af. American demographic, which has a large religious affiliation, may have a problem with that. I saw a poll with various demographics saying which types of people they'd vote for. As I recall, they had a negative column for "gay" for the Af. American demographic. There was a negative column for another demographic, too, but I don't remember what it was; it wasn't a large demographic for our party, like the Af. American group.
I also think he'd have trouble with working men in the rust belt. The way Pete talks (fairly high level...not just political speech and sound bites) won't appeal to them, I think.
But I love Pete and would love to see him in the White House...in any capacity. The country should have people of his caliber in the W.H.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Yet it wasn't that long ago the notion of an African American president was shrugged off as well. President Obama had the right stuff and the majority saw it.
I too think this time around for the mayor is a bit risky with what's at stake in spite of his having the right stuff.
Four to Eight years as Secretary Of State to demonstrate to all Americans he can lead and lead well may be the course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)because of racism. To win, he had to be someone extraordinary to overcome that handicap. And he was.
I do not know what the percentages of prejudice are against a gay person becoming President but I'm sure they are not insignificant. Mayor Pete seems to have the potential of becoming someone extraordinary (or is someone extraordinary) to eventually overcome those prejudices.
I feel that way about women candidates - Hillary and now Elizabeth, Kamala, etc. Hilary was extraordinary - she had her election stolen from her. I'd be delighted if Elizabeth or Kamala won as I'd love to see a woman president in my lifetime. They are great candidates. But kind of like Pete, the jury is out for me on whether Elizabeth or Kamala are extraordinary enough at this point to overcome the misogyny. I've got my fingers crossed for them.
I'm really proud of the collection of Democratic candidates. You look at the clowns Trump has in his cabinet and imagine the kind of cabinet the Democratic candidates could form - they just blow Trump's cabinet away - no contest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Probably closer to 40%. FDR's landslide
victory in 1936 won him 61% of the vote. Reagan won 59% in 1984. It would be hard for anyone to beat either of those results under the best of circumstances, let alone in today's polarized environment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,306 posts)He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain. He's come from nowhere to now having a prominent voice in the process. I think he has little chance of getting the nomination and lesser chance if he were to make it to the general. If we win the White House I'd expect to see him appointed to a high post to see what he can do beyond governing a medium sized city of 100,000 people. If that happens expect to see him around for quite a long time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)He's made it clear that he is in it to win the nomination and become President. I agree with you, though, that he will be around for a long time, one way or the other, whether or not he wins.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)You would be shocked if you could see his internal polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)they fight harder and smarter than everyone else until they win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He's saying fairly ordinary things. The only thing gutsy is that he's saying them. He says the obvious: Trump has issues with his relationship with the military, for instance. Trump lies. Trump faked a disability so that someone else to go to war in his place. Things like that.
But more than that, it's the way he says them, and his honest, frank answers, instead of political-speak. And he's specific, instead of speaking in generalities, with platitudes. Not that I'm saying others are doing that, but the generalities, the failing to criticize and speak the obvious, are things all too common with presidential candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)And that includes the smooth talking Biden. Fighting fire with strongly worded letters just will not cut it anymore. Or worse attempts at appeasement, "working together" on infrastructure bills for instance, ignoring the fat orange elephant in the room, will NOT bring out Democratic voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
He is very impressive and I'm getting won over also.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)I am well old enough to be his mother and, boy, my heart would bust with pride if he were my kid! I hope his family appreciates what a great guy he is!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,595 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,972 posts)Hes probably my second choice, behind Biden. He would be my first choice but I believe Biden has a better chance in the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Just not sure about whether he believes he will be next POTUS. Either way he will have an impact in a very positive way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)That makes me nervous about Pete. Remember Obama was great in every way, but he also was too schmoozy with banksters -- 95% of his "recovery" went to the top 1% (or something like that). That's no accident. Just sayin' facts.
Here's one link
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RLG
(314 posts)I don't think his nuanced talk will go well with POC.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Tell us this: How was YOUR time in Afghanistan? How Tough was it for YOU to make a decision to come out as a gay man, in Indiana, no less.
Tell us please.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RLG
(314 posts)I'm talking about his policies.
To me, he and Beto are about the same.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Please point out what policy is milquetoast.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RLG
(314 posts)I've been on both their sites and I don't see a big difference between them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,247 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)You brought up Buttigieg, not sure why you are bringing O Rourke into it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RLG
(314 posts)One says Medicare for All but not yet, the other says Medicare for America.
Say Medicare for All.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)In fact, everyone will need to get over their little wish-lists and get to the polls. Hold your nose if you need to, just VOTE for the Democratic candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RLG
(314 posts)It sounds like 2016 all over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Dough
(17,303 posts)Pete is NOT accepting donations from "big money."
Mr. Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Ind., was somewhat isolated among his rivals for the 2020 Democratic nomination because he initially accepted lobbyist money, putting him at odds with the more progressive wing of his party and its increasing demands to take big money out of politics.
He will return the contributions he had already accepted from lobbyists, which his campaign said totaled $30,250 from 39 individuals.
Mayor Pete will not be influenced by special-interest money, and we understand that making this promise is an important part of that commitment, the campaign said in an email to supporters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-fundraising-lobbyists.html
The man is principled. I'm sure we can trust him to "walk the walk."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)maybe they weren't from lobbyists. I don't remember the article but it was about the fact that only 2 candidates are not taking large donor money.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Dough
(17,303 posts)Please let us know if you happen to come across it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)It's from Ferron Cousins of Ring of Fire
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)it is like he is having a conversation with you.
He isn't preaching, or spouting cliches. He comes across as sincere and thoughtful.
I never thought any gay person would have a chance, but he is changing the rules. I hope he continues to be heard, and continues to win people over.
However, anecdotally, my partner and I had my partners brother and his wife visit last week for a few hours. Since we weren't prepared to cook for, and feed them, we went out to eat. The sister-in-law, who is VERY outspoken, and has an opinion (usually) on EVERYTHING (need I say Italian?), had never heard of mayor Pete.
I was absolutely gobsmacked. They aren't trumpanzies, and are on the right side of most issues.
But apparently there is a large segment out there who are not political junkies like we are, and have no clue about LOTS of stuff that is going on... I don't understand how someone hasn't even heard the name....
So Sad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Hes the democratic Oscar Wilde.
He also stays on the offense and doesnt give conservatives a chance to define who he is. Witness the stammering Pence when Buttigieg claimed the moral high ground with religion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Telling Pence his issue was not with him (Pete) but with his creator was a thing of beauty.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)Warren and the Mayor!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Dough
(17,303 posts)Elizabeth Warren may have been my 5th or 6th choice several weeks ago. She's definitely my second favorite now. The commanding presence and clever policy proposals she's put forth recently have been nothing short of impressive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)on my Top-10 list of Democratic candidates. Wish him the best of luck in the 2020 primary contest.
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)There are certain voters who won't vote for a gay man. Maybe most of them are Repubs, anyway. You never can tell.
I would love this guy to be in the White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mopar151
(9,982 posts)Hard to define, easy to spot!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrank
(11,094 posts)He has been number one on my list for quite some time now. I have a lot of respect for his intellect, his vision, his character.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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