Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:14 PM

Did anyone see the Donnie Deutsch-Lawrence O'Donnell dust up?

Donnie was complaining about how none of the candidates on stage had any hope of beating Trump. O'Donnell took exception with that saying that it was just all meaningless speculation with no value at this point. Donnie got very upset over this telling O'Donnell not to say that about his opinions.

It's not even July 2019 and i'm already sick of hearing Donnie Deutsch's opinions. He markets himself as some kind of Trump whisperer and only he has insight into beating him. It's just odd, and dumb.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Did anyone see the Donnie Deutsch-Lawrence O'Donnell dust up? (Original post)	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	OP
Yes, happy to hear Lawrence.	elleng	Jun 2019	#1
For anyone who missed it on TV...	True Dough	Jun 2019	#59
Thanks. I missed that. Seems DD first was referring to EWarren, but then he said something	riversedge	Jun 2019	#101
he's an arrogant dude.	mopinko	Jun 2019	#2
whenever they report good news on Elizabeth Warren he is always	JI7	Jun 2019	#3
I just wish that people who dismiss women candidates would spend ten seconds-	dawg day	Jun 2019	#35
He may fear Warren. I think her plans upset the apple cart.	SleeplessinSoCal	Jun 2019	#49
I agree. These millionaire talking heads are worried they'll have to start paying their fair share	sop	Jun 2019	#102
Donnie really dislikes Warren it seems.	Funtatlaguy	Jun 2019	#58
Advantage Lawrence in that tussle	BeyondGeography	Jun 2019	#4
I thought so too.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#7
Zero value.	dchill	Jun 2019	#5
Donnie has been elevated to a democratic strategist and I'm still trying to figure out how or	ecstatic	Jun 2019	#6
Because he's a buddy of Joe Scar.	Raster	Jun 2019	#87
I never understood Deutsch's appeal, and still can't figure out how he got his own show	sop	Jun 2019	#104
LMAO! "Failing upwards!" I love that phrase, and I had no idea	ecstatic	Jun 2019	#105
Yeah, one week	sop	Jun 2019	#106
Donnie Deutsch can sometimes be full of himself; my way or the highway.	democratisphere	Jun 2019	#8
Douch is a legend in his on mind.	Lint Head	Jun 2019	#9
He's a legend in his own behind...	pnwest	Jun 2019	#55
Yes!	Lint Head	Jun 2019	#91
$$$$$ donnie d sweating over the thought	not fooled	Jun 2019	#10
IMO it was important for the candidates to introduce themselves.	crazytown	Jun 2019	#24
It felt like a moment of sanity to hear more normal	moonscape	Jun 2019	#36
Neither of them would be my go to pundits.	Hoyt	Jun 2019	#11
Like it or not, Deutsch is right a lot	redstateblues	Jun 2019	#12
Eh, I'm not so sure about how "right" he is about anything.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#13
No, we can't get complacent, but...	dawg day	Jun 2019	#40
How could they not:)	True Blue American	Jun 2019	#50
Booker and Warren would be the two that would have the best shot, no one is a lock	Celerity	Jun 2019	#14
I agree with Deutsch that Warren can't win the rust belt states. Booker is an even a longer shot	redstateblues	Jun 2019	#16
Uptown Donnie Deutsch is a rust belt expert now?	BeyondGeography	Jun 2019	#28
Beutsch is a MARKETING expert...	brooklynite	Jun 2019	#63
Whoa, a MARKETING expert!	BeyondGeography	Jun 2019	#69
Hey marketing experts are rare in the United States.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#71
Sad	BeyondGeography	Jun 2019	#75
Unfortunately, I have to agree.	TexasTowelie	Jun 2019	#30
I disagree. Warren is an educator and knows how to teach people	blm	Jun 2019	#31
Warren was born in the plains states. I grew up in a Midwest state and	spooky3	Jun 2019	#42
I grew up in Ohio. Her plain talk will work with working class voters.	blm	Jun 2019	#44
I really like Warren, but also know I live in a red neck state	True Blue American	Jun 2019	#51
She will not win the midwest...she has gone to far left. She will lose a general badly in my opinion	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#83
Agree. Those folks don't care about the whole occupy Wall Street school of economics and	emmaverybo	Jun 2019	#33
He was right.	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#84
Based on what? You think rust belt voters won't grasp common sense	blm	Jun 2019	#39
Yes, I know they will not.	True Blue American	Jun 2019	#52
Some will not, many will. Warren has the talent and experience	blm	Jun 2019	#60
I live in the rustbelt, and Warren is actually getting a lot of grudging respect	dawg day	Jun 2019	#41
Me to Redstatesbules...she can't win with her policy proposals...the GOP would love to paint us as	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#80
Totally agree	Green Line	Jun 2019	#21
Maybe you should watch the entire exchange again....	LovingA2andMI	Jun 2019	#37
Biden and Michael Bennett are it imo. nt	mr_liberal	Jun 2019	#45
All this overconfidence about any Democrat being able to beat Trump	redstateblues	Jun 2019	#15
I'm worried, even if it is Biden, as those fuckers will vote suppress, use Russia et al.(in terms of	Celerity	Jun 2019	#19
"hack the tabulations"	crazytown	Jun 2019	#25
I only trust hand-counted paper ballots	Celerity	Jun 2019	#32
No matter who makes it through, winning will be a fight against all of the obstacles you listed.	emmaverybo	Jun 2019	#34
Most POTUS are re-elected for second term unless the economy is bad	Gothmog	Jun 2019	#100
I tend to side with Deutsch in this disagreement	Gothmog	Jun 2019	#17
So do I	Green Line	Jun 2019	#23
Not sure I agree with him but his point of view should be heard	grantcart	Jun 2019	#47
I do too...I have been watching with some horror the posts about how easy it will be to beat Trump.	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#81
"Trump whisperer" lol	Dream Girl	Jun 2019	#18
or	Celerity	Jun 2019	#22
!	crazytown	Jun 2019	#26
I agree with your opinion oif Deutsch. I heard the dust-up tonight by accident.	napi21	Jun 2019	#20
Agree. He's out of his class with Dems, no matter how well he reads Republican politics.	ancianita	Jun 2019	#27
Guess we shouldn't expect much from a Morning Joe spin-off.	eShirl	Jun 2019	#56
I gave him two chanches and now it's over.	katmondoo	Jun 2019	#85
Lawrence has more polish, prestige as a commentator, and obvious intellect, so I winced at	emmaverybo	Jun 2019	#29
I had same reaction - I think both Deutsch and Lawrence could and should have handled it different	Pachamama	Jun 2019	#38
Very good analysis and well put. Yeah, Donnie barreled in to it. NT	emmaverybo	Jun 2019	#43
"Donnie's call is probably as valid or invalid as anyone's..."	Tom Rinaldo	Jun 2019	#72
Compared to the criminal	MFM008	Jun 2019	#46
Deutsch is a multi million dollar PR/ad man. He's very connected. He went for the ''S'' word thingy.	YOHABLO	Jun 2019	#48
Good post.	True Blue American	Jun 2019	#53
Deutsch has the credibility of ...	NanceGreggs	Jun 2019	#54
Donnie sez that if nominated, Warren would lose 48 states to tRump.	stopbush	Jun 2019	#57
She won't lose 48 but she will lose a general.	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#65
None of the talking heads know anything nt	LibFarmer	Jun 2019	#61
That's not what he said...	brooklynite	Jun 2019	#62
They are already running ads about Democrats taking away health care...MFA plays right into their	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#67
Nah, he was quite vehement about it.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#73
FWIW I've never gone to a cotillion	brooklynite	Jun 2019	#82
I think Ryan could take the General...Ohio. But I have to say...I don't think any of the others	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#64
If Democrats turn out, we win the election	Turin_C3PO	Jun 2019	#70
We need more than Democrats...look at the senate map and the electoral map...without moderates in	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#76
I don't think that is true...already commercials are being run on MFA...	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#77
Donnie also doesn't see a point in Mueller on TV. Jesus, an ad guy doesn't see the value in that.	themaguffin	Jun 2019	#66
People are entitled to their opinions.	Honeycombe8	Jun 2019	#68
Warren would eviscerate Trump in a debate	DCofVA	Jun 2019	#74
And? that does not necessarily lead to winning an election.	Demsrule86	Jun 2019	#79
Hillary already did that	jcgoldie	Jun 2019	#88
I never listened much (a few youtube videos)	shanny	Jun 2019	#78
So says the man peddling Cohen as a good man and Palin as new feminist ideal	Kind of Blue	Jun 2019	#86
Good catch! Send it to LOD! :-)	spooky3	Jun 2019	#90
Good idea! Thanks! I'll figure out to do it.	Kind of Blue	Jun 2019	#92
I think he's a closeted GOPer	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#96
Indeed! I don't know why he'd have to declare	Kind of Blue	Jun 2019	#97
Sorry, I forgot to include this. Deutsch said he would vote for 45	Kind of Blue	Jun 2019	#98
Wow, that's the ultimate tell.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2019	#99
Keep In Mind	Me.	Jun 2019	#89
+1000!	Kind of Blue	Jun 2019	#93
OH GAWD...so he's actually more like Chump than I ever realized!!	bullwinkle428	Jun 2019	#94
I guess having the hump in office	Faux pas	Jun 2019	#95
Thanks for the info, BL. Screw Deutsch.	Mc Mike	Jun 2019	#103

Response to BannonsLiver (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:15 PM

elleng (121,899 posts)

1. Yes, happy to hear Lawrence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Did anyone see the Donnie Deutsch-Lawrence O'Donnell dust up?

1. Yes, happy to hear Lawrence.

59. For anyone who missed it on TV...

101. Thanks. I missed that. Seems DD first was referring to EWarren, but then he said something

2. he's an arrogant dude.

3. whenever they report good news on Elizabeth Warren he is always

35. I just wish that people who dismiss women candidates would spend ten seconds-

49. He may fear Warren. I think her plans upset the apple cart.

102. I agree. These millionaire talking heads are worried they'll have to start paying their fair share

58. Donnie really dislikes Warren it seems.

4. Advantage Lawrence in that tussle

7. I thought so too.

5. Zero value.

6. Donnie has been elevated to a democratic strategist and I'm still trying to figure out how or

87. Because he's a buddy of Joe Scar.

104. I never understood Deutsch's appeal, and still can't figure out how he got his own show

105. LMAO! "Failing upwards!" I love that phrase, and I had no idea

106. Yeah, one week

8. Donnie Deutsch can sometimes be full of himself; my way or the highway.

9. Douch is a legend in his on mind.

55. He's a legend in his own behind...

91. Yes!

10. $$$$$ donnie d sweating over the thought

24. IMO it was important for the candidates to introduce themselves.

36. It felt like a moment of sanity to hear more normal

11. Neither of them would be my go to pundits.

12. Like it or not, Deutsch is right a lot

13. Eh, I'm not so sure about how "right" he is about anything.

40. No, we can't get complacent, but...

50. How could they not:)

14. Booker and Warren would be the two that would have the best shot, no one is a lock

16. I agree with Deutsch that Warren can't win the rust belt states. Booker is an even a longer shot

28. Uptown Donnie Deutsch is a rust belt expert now?

63. Beutsch is a MARKETING expert...

69. Whoa, a MARKETING expert!

71. Hey marketing experts are rare in the United States.

75. Sad

30. Unfortunately, I have to agree.

31. I disagree. Warren is an educator and knows how to teach people

42. Warren was born in the plains states. I grew up in a Midwest state and

44. I grew up in Ohio. Her plain talk will work with working class voters.

51. I really like Warren, but also know I live in a red neck state

83. She will not win the midwest...she has gone to far left. She will lose a general badly in my opinion

33. Agree. Those folks don't care about the whole occupy Wall Street school of economics and

84. He was right.

39. Based on what? You think rust belt voters won't grasp common sense

52. Yes, I know they will not.

60. Some will not, many will. Warren has the talent and experience

41. I live in the rustbelt, and Warren is actually getting a lot of grudging respect

80. Me to Redstatesbules...she can't win with her policy proposals...the GOP would love to paint us as

21. Totally agree

37. Maybe you should watch the entire exchange again....

45. Biden and Michael Bennett are it imo. nt

15. All this overconfidence about any Democrat being able to beat Trump

19. I'm worried, even if it is Biden, as those fuckers will vote suppress, use Russia et al.(in terms of

25. "hack the tabulations"

32. I only trust hand-counted paper ballots

34. No matter who makes it through, winning will be a fight against all of the obstacles you listed.

100. Most POTUS are re-elected for second term unless the economy is bad

17. I tend to side with Deutsch in this disagreement

23. So do I

47. Not sure I agree with him but his point of view should be heard

81. I do too...I have been watching with some horror the posts about how easy it will be to beat Trump.

18. "Trump whisperer" lol

22. or

26. !

20. I agree with your opinion oif Deutsch. I heard the dust-up tonight by accident.

27. Agree. He's out of his class with Dems, no matter how well he reads Republican politics.

56. Guess we shouldn't expect much from a Morning Joe spin-off.

85. I gave him two chanches and now it's over.

29. Lawrence has more polish, prestige as a commentator, and obvious intellect, so I winced at

38. I had same reaction - I think both Deutsch and Lawrence could and should have handled it different

43. Very good analysis and well put. Yeah, Donnie barreled in to it. NT

72. "Donnie's call is probably as valid or invalid as anyone's..."

46. Compared to the criminal

48. Deutsch is a multi million dollar PR/ad man. He's very connected. He went for the ''S'' word thingy.

53. Good post.

54. Deutsch has the credibility of ...

57. Donnie sez that if nominated, Warren would lose 48 states to tRump.

65. She won't lose 48 but she will lose a general.