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Biden 22% Harris 17% Warren 15% Sanders 14% - New CNN Poll n/t (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2019 OP
💵💵💵💵💵CNN manufacturing a horse race💵💵💵💵💵 oasis Jul 2019 #1
M$NBC too. They have been in full Joe Biden bashing mode and Kamala Harris halo mode ooky Jul 2019 #20
Or maybe some people on their own decided that Biden didn't do so well? marylandblue Jul 2019 #25
I'm sure some people did decide that. Some that watch cable news, and some that don't. ooky Jul 2019 #32
The media has beaten stupid issues since the 80s, when news disappeared marylandblue Jul 2019 #33
Certainly would not argue that they are infotainment. They care about the advertising ooky Jul 2019 #34
Here is a link to the article Kaleva Jul 2019 #2
Thanks. Heard it on the tv. applegrove Jul 2019 #3
See also YouGov/HuffPost - post debate views improved for Warren & Harris PunkinPi Jul 2019 #6
That corresponds to what many here have said Kaleva Jul 2019 #8
And Biden took the biggest hit in the "worsened view" category True Dough Jul 2019 #9
Yep. nt PunkinPi Jul 2019 #12
Bump is fleeting otherwise Warren, Sanders and Buttigieg have a lot to be concerned about... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #4
Numerous people have asked you to provide a link in the thread you started True Dough Jul 2019 #7
I included the link shortly after I posted - thanks. Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #27
see that graveyard? qazplm135 Jul 2019 #15
This can't be right qazplm135 Jul 2019 #5
Yes, after all, the comments in politico are saying it was a bad move tishaLA Jul 2019 #10
But she's ambitious mcar Jul 2019 #11
The HORROR!!! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #17
I heard she prepared for the debate mcar Jul 2019 #18
I'll alert the media! greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #19
Get them to ask crazytown Jul 2019 #35
Well, I've only heard of one or two other ambitious women running for President. marylandblue Jul 2019 #21
And she's outspoken! DesertRat Jul 2019 #31
that...and cold and calculating Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #22
Contrived, shrill planner mcar Jul 2019 #23
Yep. Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #24
other than very selective pick out attempts to reverse the narrative by some here, Biden was Celerity Jul 2019 #13
What will ya'll do when the half truth attacks start on Senator Harris's record as prosecutor? emulatorloo Jul 2019 #36
she will have the same opportunity qazplm135 Jul 2019 #37
I'm not whining. I'm supporting all of our candidates against half truth smears. emulatorloo Jul 2019 #39
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #14
For Democrats under 45 tishaLA Jul 2019 #16
? applegrove Jul 2019 #28
crosstabs of the CNN poll tishaLA Jul 2019 #29
Oh i misread. My bad. applegrove Jul 2019 #30
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #26
Even worse than ambitious, she plans and prepares! IronLionZion Jul 2019 #38
 

oasis

(49,332 posts)
1. 💵💵💵💵💵CNN manufacturing a horse race💵💵💵💵💵
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ooky

(8,908 posts)
20. M$NBC too. They have been in full Joe Biden bashing mode and Kamala Harris halo mode
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jul 2019

working on getting that horse race going. It's clear that corporate media doesn't want Trump to have to face Biden. They want another 4 years of the orange lying bile sac so they can keep getting top dollar for their insurance and pharmaceutical commercials. Their Biden bashing has been so bad I had to shut the shit off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
25. Or maybe some people on their own decided that Biden didn't do so well?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jul 2019

Isn't that at least a wee bit possible? Or did the media somehow get into my own brain while I watched the debate live and don't watch any cable news reporting at all?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

ooky

(8,908 posts)
32. I'm sure some people did decide that. Some that watch cable news, and some that don't.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jul 2019

As for the media, they beat it like they have an agenda.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
33. The media has beaten stupid issues since the 80s, when news disappeared
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jul 2019

and became "infotainment." Their mission is to entertain you. They don't care who the President is as long as people keep watching.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ooky

(8,908 posts)
34. Certainly would not argue that they are infotainment. They care about the advertising
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jul 2019

dollar and what will keep their viewership high. But I will disagree on your point they don't care who the president is. I think they would very much like another 4 years of Trump. That's an opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
2. Here is a link to the article
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019

"WASHINGTON (CNN)Sens. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren have made steep gains after the first Democratic presidential debate, a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. shows, with former Vice President Joe Biden's lead over the field shrinking to a narrow 5 points.

The results indicate a significant tightening in the race for the Democratic nomination.
The poll, conducted after the two-night debate, finds 22% of registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents backing Biden for the party's presidential nomination, 17% Harris, 15% Warren and 14% Sen. Bernie Sanders. No one else in the 23-person field tested hits 5%."


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/01/politics/2020-democratic-candidates-poll/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
3. Thanks. Heard it on the tv.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
8. That corresponds to what many here have said
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:28 PM
Jul 2019

Warren won the first night and Booker, Castro and Klobucher did well. Harris won the 2nd night and Mayor Pete put in a good performance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
9. And Biden took the biggest hit in the "worsened view" category
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

Followed by Beto.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
4. Bump is fleeting otherwise Warren, Sanders and Buttigieg have a lot to be concerned about...
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
7. Numerous people have asked you to provide a link in the thread you started
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jul 2019

Would be good to satisfy their desire to see an accounting for those numbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
27. I included the link shortly after I posted - thanks.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
15. see that graveyard?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jul 2019

I'd put away your whistle if I were you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. This can't be right
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jul 2019

I was told how much this hurt Harris and how there was going to be a backlash.

But this says she leaped from fifth to second and within five points of first.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
10. Yes, after all, the comments in politico are saying it was a bad move
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jul 2019

and someone talked to their friends who thought it was a bad move. And a former senator said tut-tutted about her ambition

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mcar

(42,278 posts)
11. But she's ambitious
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
17. The HORROR!!!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jul 2019

A candidate for president is ambitious? Who ever heard of that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mcar

(42,278 posts)
18. I heard she prepared for the debate
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

Oh the humanity!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
19. I'll alert the media!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
35. Get them to ask
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:32 PM
Jul 2019

her recipe for cookies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. Well, I've only heard of one or two other ambitious women running for President.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:35 PM
Jul 2019

Women really need to know their place and only run for VP or to ruin an ambitious woman's chances.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
31. And she's outspoken!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jul 2019

And well-prepared!


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
22. that...and cold and calculating
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mcar

(42,278 posts)
23. Contrived, shrill planner
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:43 PM
Jul 2019

I expect poll tested will be upon us shortly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,123 posts)
13. other than very selective pick out attempts to reverse the narrative by some here, Biden was
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jul 2019

was pilloried across the board by 80-90% of all coverage I saw or read.

I saw almost no one not already in the Biden camp rip into Harris at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emulatorloo

(44,070 posts)
36. What will ya'll do when the half truth attacks start on Senator Harris's record as prosecutor?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jul 2019

I’ve seen them previewed and they won’t come from Biden’s camp. I’ll defend her, as I do all all of our candidates when they are baseless smeared. Because all of our candidates are good people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
37. she will have the same opportunity
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jul 2019

to either effectively deal with those attacks, or fail, and she will rise or fall accordingly.

And no, Biden was not "baselessly smeared." Stop whining.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

emulatorloo

(44,070 posts)
39. I'm not whining. I'm supporting all of our candidates against half truth smears.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

And that includes Senator Harris and all of the rest of them. If you choose to join in the circular firing squad be my guest. I’m not interested in tearing down any of our candidates. Certainly not interested in falsely projecting Trump’s flaws on our good candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
16. For Democrats under 45
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jul 2019

Biden is in 4th place.

The top three are lumped together with that cohort--Sanders, Harris, and Warren are a statistical dead heat

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
29. crosstabs of the CNN poll
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:01 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
30. Oh i misread. My bad.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
38. Even worse than ambitious, she plans and prepares!
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jul 2019

the horror, the horror,





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