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Tue Jul 2, 2019, 02:59 PM

 

HARRIS GETS BIG DEBATE BOUNCE WHILE BIDEN SINKS QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL FINDS;

FOR RELEASE: JULY 2, 2019
DESPITE DROP, BIDEN STILL SEEN AS BEST BET AGAINST TRUMP
After Democratic presidential contenders duked it out over two nights of debates, former Vice
President Joseph Biden hits his lowest number yet in the Democratic primary race with 22
percent of the vote among Democrats and Democratic leaners, virtually tied with California Sen.
Kamala Harris who has 20 percent of the vote. Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren follows at
14 percent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is at 13 percent, and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg
gets 4 percent, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University National Poll released
today. No other candidate tops 3 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us07022019_umfj23.pdf/
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Reply HARRIS GETS BIG DEBATE BOUNCE WHILE BIDEN SINKS QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL FINDS; (Original post)
gldstwmn Jul 2019 OP
highplainsdem Jul 2019 #1
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #2
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #3
highplainsdem Jul 2019 #4
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #5
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chimpymustgo Jul 2019 #14
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #15
Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #20
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #21
Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #23
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Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #28
highplainsdem Jul 2019 #6
SidDithers Jul 2019 #7
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #8
Buzz cook Jul 2019 #9
Butterflylady Jul 2019 #10
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #11
stopbush Jul 2019 #16
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #17
FailureToCommunicate Jul 2019 #13
honest.abe Jul 2019 #18
DesertRat Jul 2019 #19
Politicub Jul 2019 #22
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #24
Politicub Jul 2019 #25
gldstwmn Jul 2019 #27

Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:05 PM

1. DESPITE DROP, BIDEN STILL SEEN AS BEST BET AGAINST TRUMP

 

As long as we're using the all-caps headline you're copying.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:07 PM

2. I copied verbatim.

 

In today’s poll, Biden has a numerical lead among men with 22 percent, followed by
Sanders at 19 percent and Harris with 14 percent. But among women, Harris has a slight edge
with 24 percent to Biden’s 22 percent. The race is similarly close for white Democratic voters,
with Biden at 21 percent, and both Harris and Warren at 20 percent. Harris also essentially
catches Biden among black Democratic voters, a historically strong voting bloc for Biden, with
Biden at 31 percent and Harris at 27 percent.
“Round 1 of the Democratic debates puts Senator Kamala Harris and former Vice
President Joe Biden on two different trajectories, as support for Harris surges but continues to
slip for Biden. Biden’s once commanding lead has evaporated. There are other red flags for him
in areas where he still leads, including double digit drops among Democrats and Democratic
leaners who view him as the best leader, or as the best candidate to defeat President Trump in
2020,” said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Mary Snow.
https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us07022019_umfj23.pdf/

Shall I keep going?
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:09 PM

3. Sure why not? It gets better.

 

Quinnipiac University Poll/July 2, 2019 – page 2
Democrats and Democratic leaners were also asked which candidate they thought had the
best chance of winning against President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election,
regardless of who they support in the primary. Biden tops the field with 42 percent, which is a
drop from the 56 percent that he received on April 30. Harris comes in a distant second with 14
percent in today’s poll, up from 2 percent in April. Sanders receives 13 percent, and no other
candidate reaches double digits.
When asked who would be the best leader, Biden again tops the field with 26 percent, an
18-point drop from the 44 percent he received the last time this question was asked. Harris
finishes second with 16 percent, up from 6 percent in April. Sanders and Warren are tied with 15
percent, while no other candidate reaches double digits.
In a question about which candidate has the best policy ideas, Warren takes the lead with
31 percent, compared to 19 percent in April. Sanders is next with 18 percent, while Biden
receives 11 percent, a drop from 23 percent in April. Harris is at 8 percent, and no other
candidate tops 3 percent.
“When it comes to policy ideas, Senator Elizabeth Warren scores higher than any of the
Democratic presidential contenders. However, it didn’t give her a boost in her overall numbers in
the primary race,” Snow added.

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us07022019_umfj23.pdf/
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:09 PM

4. So did I, from the section you copied. Of course this has already been posted

 

and discussed at length in another OP, but this isn't the first time we've had multiple threads on the same poll here.

The person who posted the other OP posted a news article about it, but I linked to the Quinnipiac Poll link you're using here, and quoted excerpts of that, in a few of the replies there.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:11 PM

5. Have some more...

 

Forty percent of Democrats and Democratic leaning voters say they watched most of the
debates, while another 40 percent paid close attention to news stories about the debates. Of those
who did one or the other, 47 percent say Harris did the best job in the recent debates, followed by
Warren at 17 percent, Biden at 6 percent, and Sanders at 5 percent. When asked who did the
worst job in the debates, 16 percent of these voters say self-help author Marianne Williamson,
while Biden receives a nearly identical 15 percent.
From June 28 – July 1, Quinnipiac University surveyed 554 Democrats and voters
leaning Democratic nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 5 percentage points, including the
design effect.
https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us07022019_umfj23.pdf/

That's gonna leave a mark.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:19 PM

12. There are 24 pages of data to that Quinnipiac Poll

 

that I linked to and most of it is not favorable to Biden's candidacy. I'm going to repeat just so there's no confusion that I don't dislike Biden personally. His campaign is a mess, his continual gaffes, his candidacy removed from public view, his antiquated politics and the fact that he will be nearly 80 at inauguration are extremely off putting for me. His comment about the NRA pretty much lost me for good. I don't remember his candidacy being so awful in previous election cycles. He is not an exciting candidate this time. He will not motivate people to get off the couch. I don't want to vote for him ever again. But I will if I have to.
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:40 PM

14. Kamala is our strongest candidate! Glad so many others are starting to see it!

 

She combines knowledge, toughness, and a great personality. That equals ELECTABILITY!! FTW!
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Response to chimpymustgo (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:42 PM

15. She's got what it takes. I'm very hopeful she'll go all the way.

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 07:26 PM

20. And after all of that, what really counts is the state polls. The first one released, post-debate,

 

is the Suffolk University Iowa poll where Biden remained unchanged at 24% (since last month's polling). Harris switched places with Sanders and is now at 16%. So, Biden's lead remains at 8 points (since last month's polling).

The debate did not affect Joe in Iowa. Now, i am looking forward to seeing more Primary state polls and whether Harris is leading in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Nevada and Florida (among other red states)... I have my predictions...


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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:02 PM

21. Actually what I'm looking forward to is the suppoters

 

of a certain candidate not shoving that cadidate down everyone else's throat once that cadidate exits the race.
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:11 PM

23. Well, I'm glad that my candidate isn't going anywhere. One great state poll, so far (Yay Iowa)

 

and many more others to come. So excited!
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:18 PM

26. Your guy will be lucky to get through the weekend

 

without dropping yet another bomb on his own canpaign.
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:54 PM

28. As long as he is the last one standing...

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:13 PM

6. Link to the other thread about this poll:

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287186133


See my replies there for some of the material from the press release from Quinnipiac, which I'd also linked to there.
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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:15 PM

7. DU rec...

 

but, backlash!11!1!

Sid
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:41 PM

8. Thanks! I got the flame suit on.

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:43 PM

9. Good for Kamala

 

Still its early days. Just as I think people read too much into Biden's early poll numbers, Senator Harris' boost in the polls is still just a small step to the nomination. Another candidate might get a similar boost from one good news cycle.

But still well done, Kamala Harris has proven she's a serious contender.
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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:53 PM

10. Of course

 

She's the flavor of the week. Next debate it will be somebody else. That's the way it go for quite some time.
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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:01 PM

11. So that makes Biden the flavor of the month prior to the debate?

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:20 PM

16. Joe is in real trouble. It comes through in the desperation of his fans.

 

He simply did not prepare for that debate and now he’s paying a heavy toll. His steep drop in the polls is very bad news. It doesn’t matter if he still has a slight lead. It’s the trend that counts. Black female Ds made a big shift toward Kamala post-debate. That erases a huge advantage Joe had up til now.

One mistake can be enough to change history (think of stepping on a landmine). Joe made a mistake that first debate, and the applecart has been upset.
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Response to stopbush (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:22 PM

17. I keep thinking to one moment in Howard Dean's career. And I like Howard a lot.

 

This isn't the end for Biden's gaffes. It's just the beginning.
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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:24 PM

13. KnR

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 06:18 PM

18. Biden:22 Harris: 20

 

WOW huge bounce for KH!
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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 06:54 PM

19. k&r

 

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:04 PM

22. It's great the polls are trending in Harris' direction... I don't put much faith in

 

poll numbers, though. It's too early for polls to mean anything other than to qualify candidates for the debate stage.

With that being said, I find it hard to resist looking at polls.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:12 PM

24. I know. We've got 6 or 7 months to the first

 

caucus? Some of these other folks will be long gone by then which is a bummer because we have a stellar field. So now is the only time we get to see them. I watched Marianne Williams on CNN tonight and she was actually very good. I know she isn't everyone's cup of tea. I wonder how long she'll be in?
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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:17 PM

25. The July 15 deadline to report campaign donations will be a good time

 

to gauge who will be able to stay in the race. At some point, the less popular campaigns will run out of money.

Williamson does a great job of connecting ideas about policy to a greater purpose. I don't think she'll be in the race much longer since there's so much competition. But like you, I think she does well in interviews. She brings a unique perspective.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 09:21 PM

27. Bill Maher was right when he said she made a great

 

statement about healthcare. That being we need to fix what we can about what makes us all so unhealthy in the first place.
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