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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 07:17 AM Jul 2019

Sanders slips in polls, raising doubts about campaign

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451449-sanders-slips-in-polls-raising-doubts-about-campaign

Sanders slips in polls, raising doubts about campaign

By Jonathan Easley - 07/03/19 06:00 AM EDT 490comments

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is slipping in polls following the first Democratic debate, raising questions about whether he can recapture the insurgent energy that nearly carried him to the party's presidential nomination in 2016.

Three new polls released after the first Democratic debate show Sanders falling into fourth place behind former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.).
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The Sanders campaign is pushing back, arguing that their candidate is once again being underestimated by Washington insiders and the news media.
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Sanders slips in polls, raising doubts about campaign (Original Post) nitpicker Jul 2019 OP
Good, keep slipping Freddie Jul 2019 #1
Progressive agenda is no longer an insurgency, it's widespread bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #2
my concern though LeftTurn3623 Jul 2019 #7
There's no change at all if you don't win bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #10
From Real Clear Politics nitpicker Jul 2019 #3
From the RCP link to the ABC poll analysis nitpicker Jul 2019 #4
To me, this indicates one reason why the polls are varying so wildly nitpicker Jul 2019 #5
Sanders in single digits will be wonderful nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #6
I don't see him regaining ground. cwydro Jul 2019 #8
can you support that or is it an opinion? floppyboo Jul 2019 #15
Excellent news. Glad to hear this. NurseJackie Jul 2019 #9
You might want to take a look at today's polls Sanders gained about 1%. And Joe is Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #11
I see three national and one Iowa poll today. marylandblue Jul 2019 #17
He should drop out nt Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #12
Maybe he could run for the Senate... MineralMan Jul 2019 #13
You know the nearer your destination... zackymilly Jul 2019 #14
ty for the link Go Vols Jul 2019 #16
 

Freddie

(9,258 posts)
1. Good, keep slipping
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 07:39 AM
Jul 2019

We need to WIN the election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
2. Progressive agenda is no longer an insurgency, it's widespread
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 07:46 AM
Jul 2019

Sanders was divisive in 2016, that baggage is not helping him here, and other candidates have picked up on his issues with parallel or alternative policy proposals. It's no longer just about economic equality and powerful corporations. People understand how politics is affecting their lives now. But the seeds of issues that Bernie planted grow on, and he should be proud of that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
7. my concern though
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:41 AM
Jul 2019

is Bernie & Warren you know this is what they truly believe in and would make real change. I'm not so sure most of the others would actually make real change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
10. There's no change at all if you don't win
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jul 2019

So half a loaf is better than none. Doubts make for an unsettled self. Oh ye of little faith.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
3. From Real Clear Politics
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:10 AM
Jul 2019
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

(released 3 Jul) ABC News/Wash Post Biden 30, Sanders 19, Harris 13, Warren 12, Buttigieg 4, O'Rourke 2, Booker 1, Castro 3, Klobuchar 2, Gabbard 1, Yang 0, Bennet 1, Gillibrand 0 (polled 28 Jun-1 Jul)

(released 2 Jul) Quinnipiac Biden 22, Sanders 13, Harris 20, Warren 14, Buttigieg 4, O'Rourke 1, Booker 3, Castro 1, Klobuchar 1, Gabbard 1, Yang 1, Bennet 0, Gillibrand 0 (polled 28 Jun-1 Jul)

(another poll that showed Sanders trailing was on the Iowa caucuses)

(released 1 Jul) CNN Biden 22, Sanders 14, Harris 17, Warren 15, Buttigieg 4, O'Rourke 3, Booker 3, Castro 1, Klobuchar 2, Gabbard 1, Yang 1, Bennet 0, Gillibrand 0 (polled 28-30 Jun)

(released 1 Jul) The Hill/HarrisX Biden 33, Sanders 15, Harris 11, Warren 9, Buttigieg 6, O'Rourke 4, Booker 2, Castro 1, Klobuchar 0, Gabbard 1, Yang 1, Bennet 1, Gillibrand 1 (polled 29-30 Jun)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
4. From the RCP link to the ABC poll analysis
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:11 AM
Jul 2019

(snip)
An impact is apparent: Among the half of leaned Democrats who did not watch either of the two nights of debates, just 5 percent support Harris for the nomination. Among those who watched the debate in which she appeared, by contrast, her support swells to 20 percent. That places her numerically second among Thursday-night viewers; Biden has 28 percent support in this group; Warren, 17 percent; and Sanders, 15 percent.

Warren also does better among viewers of her debate than non-viewers, 17 vs. 8 percent support. Showing strength among highly engaged leaned Democrats, she reaches 22 percent, virtually matching Biden’s 25 percent, among those who watched both debates.

There’s no meaningful difference in Biden’s support across debate-watching groups, and Sanders gets the booby prize – higher support among those who did not watch the debates, 26 percent, vs. 15 percent among those who watched the debate in which he appeared and 10 percent among those who watched both nights. Comparative inattention fits with his younger support profile; 18- to 29-year-olds, his best group, are least likely to have tuned in.
(snip)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
5. To me, this indicates one reason why the polls are varying so wildly
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:14 AM
Jul 2019

The various pollsters may have differed on the relative numbers for those who watched the debates and those who did not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
6. Sanders in single digits will be wonderful nt
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. I don't see him regaining ground.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

He’s losing people who once supported him, and he’s not attracting any new voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
15. can you support that or is it an opinion?
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jul 2019

If you are using polls as proof, remember that if you are looking at 'registered Dem voters' they are contacting people that either voted in the last primaries (very old data now) or, if I remember seeing it correctly, voted in 2018. In both cases, they are not contacting the younger, just registered, voters - who skew Sanders.

I wouldn't get too comfortable yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Excellent news. Glad to hear this.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:45 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
11. You might want to take a look at today's polls Sanders gained about 1%. And Joe is
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jul 2019

winning decisively.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
17. I see three national and one Iowa poll today.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jul 2019

In two, Biden is down a lot, in one he is down a little bit and in the Iowa poll, he is losing to Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
13. Maybe he could run for the Senate...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
14. You know the nearer your destination...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jul 2019

...The more you're slip slidin' away...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
16. ty for the link
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019
A fourth poll, released Wednesday morning as this story was published, found Sanders retaining his second place standing behind Biden. The ABC News-Washington Post poll found Biden in the lead at 29 percent, followed by Sanders at 23 percent and Harris and Warren lagging at 11 percent each.

The Sanders campaign says those counting him out are once again underestimating a candidate who surprised the political world three years ago and remains a small-dollar fundraising juggernaut with an enthusiastic core of supporters.

Sanders has an inexhaustible base of grass-roots donors that will churn out tens of millions of dollars for him as long as he’s in the race.

On Tuesday, the campaign announced that it raised $18 million in the second quarter, collected from about 1 million donors giving an average of $18 a piece. Nearly the entire amount came from donors who will be able to give again.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
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