Julin Castro applauds Nike's decision to pull Betsy Ross flag shoes

[Polybius]

Democratic presidential hopeful Julián Castro on Wednesday applauded Nike's decision to nix a pair of sneakers featuring a Betsy Ross flag.

The former Housing and Urban Development secretary said in a CBS News interview that he was "glad to see" the company's decision.

"I was glad to see that. And my hope is that they didn't just do it to do it. They understand the significance there. And look, there are a lot of things in our history that are still very painful," Castro said, pointing to "the Confederate Flag that still flies in some places, and is used as a symbol."

"I believe we need to move towards an inclusive America that understands that pain," he added.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451536-castro-applauds-nikes-decision-to-pull-flag-shoes%3Famp

[dem4decades]

1. I didn't realize that that flag was taken over by the dark side.

Now i do.

[customerserviceguy]

28. The dark side doesn't own it

unless we surrender it to them.

[Marengo]

2. Idiotic. How many more symbols are we going to surrender?

[UniteFightBack]

15. I agree. nt

[wyldwolf]

3. Coming next week: Candidate________ declares the constitution unconstitutional

"It was drafted and passed during slavery."

[Celerity]

8. +1

[Celerity]

9. self delete, double post

[bluewater]

16. You do know the Constitution can and has been amended, right?

You know about these amendments, right?

The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution declared that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

The 14th amendment was adopted in 1868, after the American Civil War, and addresses the equal protection and rights of former slaves. The 14th amendment limits the action of state and local officials. In addition to equal protection under the law to all citizens, the amendment also addresses what is called "due process", which prevents citizens from being illegally deprived of life, liberty, or property.

So, no one is going to be complaining it was adopted during Slavery times. Everyone knows it was a disgrace to enshrine slavery when the Constitution was adopted, and everyone knows it has been amended.


Our flag today has been "amended" also, the 50 stars US Flag has never been a slavery flag.

Nike should have put THAT flag on its shoes.

[wyldwolf]

19. Nooo. Really????

LOL

[bluewater]

21. Yes, reeeaally!

[wyldwolf]

22. And that has WHAT to do with the OP?

[bluewater]

23. What has what to do with what? lol

Can't people reply to your posts in the thread?

Your hyperbolic rhetoric seemed to be calling out for a reply.

[wyldwolf]

24. Ah I see. I often have to remind the kids

to stay on task.

So, unless the OP was specifically about
Constitutional amendments, or I posted
about amendments, your reply was as
relevant as a Mac & cheese recipe.

[bluewater]

25. "I often have to remind the kids to stay on task."

"So, unless the OP was specifically about
Constitutional amendments, or I posted
about amendments, your reply was as
relevant as a Mac & cheese recipe"


And yet you posted in the VERY post I replied to :

"Coming next week: Candidate________ declares the constitution unconstitutional"



Boom. Mic drop.



I am done. lol Thanks for the discussion.

[wyldwolf]

26. Boil the pasta first...

...then add cheese.

Unless you think mac’n’cheese should
be banned because it was around during
the days of slavery.

[nsd]

4. Ughhh. How does he plan to win a nationwide general election?

I think he's wrong on general principle too, but simply as a matter of pragmatic politics, what is the thought process?

[wyldwolf]

5. It's embarrassing for the party.

[tritsofme]

6. He is trying to raise his national profile and fundraising base, not be a serious candidate.

[wyldwolf]

7. this won't play well in Texas, either, which is where he's staying

[TSIAS]

10. Not good for Castro

I hope Biden seizes the opening to appeal to moderate and conservative voters, who he needs to keep on his side.

This would be a perfect opportunity for Joltin Joe to have his Sister Souljah moment. The key to any successful Democratic candidate is to have at least one, if not a dozen or more, Sister Souljah moments and go after the extremists on our side.

Joe needs to differentiate himself from the Orange Menace. While 45 may like to grope the American flag, Biden needs to show that he's the most patriotic candidate in the race. His campaign team is already doing a marvelous job, but they should hold a press conference on Independence Day and condemn Nike and Kaepernick. It would do a lot to help regain the edge that he lost because of the vicious personal attacks by his opponents during the debate.

[Celerity]

11. if Biden goes after Colin Kaepernick he will be down in Pete territory with African Americans nt

[bluewater]

13. +1

[Turin_C3PO]

14. Lol, no, he should not condemn Kaepernick.

For one thing, Kaepernick is absolutely right in his protest and second, he would lose the primary if he did that. We don’t need racists on our side anyway.

[customerserviceguy]

29. Which protest are you talking about?

The anthem kneeling one, or this one about an historic US flag?

[Turin_C3PO]

30. The anthem one.

Isn’t that the one Kaepernick is involved in?

[customerserviceguy]

31. Yes, just making sure

I think this flag thing makes our side look pretty damned goofy. It's not a Confederate flag, it is a flag actually used by a legitimate US government.

[Turin_C3PO]

32. Well I agree we shouldn't let them co-opt that flag.

It’s another issue that our Democratic candidates shouldn’t have even commented on.

[customerserviceguy]

33. And while we're at it

The standard hand gesture for "OK" doesn't belong to them, either.

[Turin_C3PO]

34. Yeah but that one may be too far gone to save.

It’s pretty widely used by white nationalists now. I wish it wasn’t so.

[customerserviceguy]

35. We're talking about less than one percent of the population

No, I don't mean the percent that is racist, I mean the percent that will leave Mommy's basement and march around with a tiki torch. I won't cede anything to those asshats.

[TSIAS]

36. It would hekp him win

Beating Trump is more important than anything. Even if Biden does agree with Kaepernick, it would be brilliant to take some of Trump's base. Even if its 1% that woukd be enough to swing PA WI and MI.

[peggysue2]

20. We're going off the rails

Like a lot of people, I've admired Kaepernick's NFL resistance. But ceding American symbols to the dark side is a very slippery slope. The Betsy Ross flag was flown at President Obama's 2nd inaugural. Hello? Because a bunch of racist jerks have waved the same flag is not a reason to ban it but to embrace it as our own--the good, the bad and the ugly--while striving for those better angels of our nature.

I'm sorry but I reject the idea that the flag is no better than the swastika as Michael Dyson sputtered vehemently a few days ago. That kind of hyperbole will only hand the Trumpsters a victory in 2020. And how far do we go? Scratch out the names of the Founding Fathers, throw out the US Constitution?

On the other hand I don't think Biden or any of our Democratic candidates should condemn the decision, Kaepernick or Nike. Simply point out that the decision was (though well-intentioned) wrong-headed and counterproductive.

[Polybius]

12. Let's hope moderators bring it up during the next debates

I'd love to see where everyone stands.

[Turin_C3PO]

18. Why?

It’s a non-issue and would probably only hurt our candidates by giving the Republicans ads against the candidates who agree with Nike.

[Polybius]

38. Because I wanna see where they stand

I'd like to support those who are against Nike on this one.

[Midwestocrat]

17. Dumb.

Another cultural issue, THAT DOES NOT MATTER, that Republicans lure Democrats into and force them to take the far left position on.

We can be such saps.

[El Supremo]

27. Now who do I support?

[Raine]

37. Ridiculous

he goes way down to the bottom of my list for this.