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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:06 PM Mar 2019

First-time voters for Bernie Sanders don't care about his age, say he speaks to what matters to them

College students who support Sen. Bernie Sanders and will be voting for the first time in 2020 say the senator's age is not an issue to them.

Sanders, 77, has faced questions as to whether he's too old to run for president since the senator announced he's running again.

Young supporters of Sen. Sanders say they're not concerned about his age as he makes another run for president.

At Sanders' rally in Iowa City, IA, on Friday night, students from the University of Iowa could be overheard talking about how the senator has "always" had the same values.

One such student, Sam Johnston of Forsyth, Illinois, told INSIDER he supports Sanders because he's "fair," "reliable," and he trusts the senator to "follow through" on his campaign promises.

Johnston, 18, who will be a first-time voter in 2020, said "age range doesn't matter" when it comes to Sanders because he "just knows our values and shares them."

When asked if they would support the ultimate Democratic nominee even if it's not Sanders, the trio hesitated to respond.

Johnston, appearing deep in thought, said "most likely, yes" but added that there's "so many" candidates to choose from and it's early. If it came down to it, Johnston said his second choice would would be Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

At: https://www.businessinsider.com/first-time-2020-voters-bernie-sanders-age-not-an-issue-iowa-2019-3

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First-time voters for Bernie Sanders don't care about his age, say he speaks to what matters to them (Original Post) sandensea Mar 2019 OP
He might be too old but if he is the nominee I will vote on him without hesitation. walkingman Mar 2019 #1
Same here. sandensea Mar 2019 #2
Bernie exudes charisma cuz of his genuineness and unwavering, genuine progressive policy positions. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #9
I did not likr the way he treated Hillary, she has done more in her lifetime than Bernie katmondoo Mar 2019 #10
Not even close... look how many Democrats Bernie has brought to the party. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #13
He brought them to Bernie. He hasn't even brought himself to the party. Clash City Rocker Mar 2019 #26
ROFL +100 -nt Amimnoch Mar 2019 #27
I'd love to see Bernie and Elizabeth together on the ticket. Would really shake things up. sandensea Mar 2019 #12
Would be awesome!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #14
Ah. If only Wall Street would allow it! sandensea Mar 2019 #15
What power does "Wall Street" have over the Democratic Primary? Or the selection of a VP? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #22
Still waiting for him to exude his full TAX RETURNS. Any word on that? What's the delay? If... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #16
Interesting that he just doesn't put all this to rest. It would be so easy. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #23
Fact is: THE TAX RETURNS ARE READY AND COMPLETE. We know this because... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #24
It certainly does build suspense. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #25
Think about this: OLD and YOUNG on same ticket! elleng Mar 2019 #3
Pete would definitely be a formidable running mate for any Dem nominee sandensea Mar 2019 #4
Sure as hell SHOULD be, elleng Mar 2019 #5
+1 sandensea Mar 2019 #6
Sure is ironic. elleng Mar 2019 #7
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #8
You're very welcome sandensea Mar 2019 #31
So people supporting a 77 yo don't care about age? WeekiWater Mar 2019 #11
And water is wet. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #17
They like the young at heart. sandensea Mar 2019 #18
It's not a good sign that they wouldn't commit to supporting the eventual Dem nominee Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #19
Generation skipping? Reminds me of the grandkids that "hate" their parents but revere the hlthe2b Mar 2019 #20
Bernie brings in more than the young vanboggie Mar 2019 #21
Indeed he does. sandensea Mar 2019 #29
That's the ticket vanboggie Mar 2019 #30
I would bet Millenials will go for Beto. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #28
 

walkingman

(7,571 posts)
1. He might be too old but if he is the nominee I will vote on him without hesitation.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:48 PM
Mar 2019
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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
2. Same here.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 12:12 AM
Mar 2019

I voted for him in the 2016 primaries, and while I have my doubts as to his electability this time around his charisma - especially among younger voters - is undeniable.

But if he's the nominee, seeing seeing bona fide New Yorkers with big personalities go at it in the next debates would be, well...





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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
9. Bernie exudes charisma cuz of his genuineness and unwavering, genuine progressive policy positions.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:27 AM
Mar 2019

Bernie is an original, let's face it... time to climb aboard the Bernie Bandwagon.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
10. I did not likr the way he treated Hillary, she has done more in her lifetime than Bernie
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:44 AM
Mar 2019

He ran for President and did nothing else worth noting

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
13. Not even close... look how many Democrats Bernie has brought to the party.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Clash City Rocker

(3,385 posts)
26. He brought them to Bernie. He hasn't even brought himself to the party.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:29 PM
Mar 2019
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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
12. I'd love to see Bernie and Elizabeth together on the ticket. Would really shake things up.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 11:52 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
14. Would be awesome!!
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
15. Ah. If only Wall Street would allow it!
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 03:56 PM
Mar 2019

I think they'd find, to their surprise, that in the long run they too would be better off with some common sense reforms.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. What power does "Wall Street" have over the Democratic Primary? Or the selection of a VP? (nt)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:11 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. Still waiting for him to exude his full TAX RETURNS. Any word on that? What's the delay? If...
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:22 PM
Mar 2019
Bernie exudes charisma
Still waiting for him to exude his full TAX RETURNS. Any word on that? What's the delay? If the tax returns were complete enough to submit to the IRS, then they are complete enough to release to the American voters. No "polishing" or "adjusting" or "clarifying" or "fixing-up" or "fine-tuning" is necessary.

Everyone should play by the same rules. No special favors for anyone! No exceptions.

The American people have the right to know whether or not anyone running to be the "Leader of the Free World" has properly paid his taxes. We have the right for an honest, forthcoming, and COMPLETE release of his FULL tax returns for a period of TEN years so that we can confirm where the candidate's money is coming from, and where the candidate is investing or saving (ie: domestic or off-shore) and what the candidate and his/her spouse claims as "deductibles" or other assets.

We need to see EVERY candidate's tax returns BEFORE the primaries... so that we'll know whether or not he or she is honest and has the integrity to be our party's nominee.

It's complete BS for any candidate to think they're entitled to DELAY and not release their tax returns until they win the nomination. All I'm saying is that the American voters deserve better than the peek-a-boo and hide-and-seek delays and excuses.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. Interesting that he just doesn't put all this to rest. It would be so easy. (nt)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. Fact is: THE TAX RETURNS ARE READY AND COMPLETE. We know this because...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:23 PM
Mar 2019

Fact is: THE TAX RETURNS ARE READY AND COMPLETE. We know this because he already submitted them to the IRS.

It can't be emphasized enough that if the tax returns are good enough for the IRS, then they're good enough for the American voters to see.

It has nothing to do with the returns still needing more work... they are complete, and they are being withheld.

The big question now is: WHY?

It certainly does make people suspicious. It certainly does look fishy.

All I'm saying is... what compelling reason would he have for withholding them? Is someone making calculated decision and weighing a which-would-be-worse scenario?

Has someone decided that the damage caused by NOT releasing them is preferable to ACTUALLY releasing them?

If so, that's a matter that deserves close examination and consideration because it presents many issues and problems going forward.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
25. It certainly does build suspense. (nt)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:27 PM
Mar 2019
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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
4. Pete would definitely be a formidable running mate for any Dem nominee
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 12:48 AM
Mar 2019

But is America ready for an openly gay vice president? (key word there being openly).

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elleng

(130,646 posts)
5. Sure as hell SHOULD be,
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 12:49 AM
Mar 2019

but ARE we?

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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
6. +1
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 12:52 AM
Mar 2019

Here's to the day our lawmakers' personal lives mean nothing to most voters.

We're not there yet - and we've got the media and many of our pastors to thank for that.

Which, of course, is ironic in itself.

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elleng

(130,646 posts)
7. Sure is ironic.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 12:58 AM
Mar 2019

Feeling bad about it.

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Uncle Joe

(58,255 posts)
8. Kicked and recommended.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 01:09 AM
Mar 2019

Thanks for the thread sandensea.

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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
31. You're very welcome
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:54 PM
Mar 2019

This time, Mr. Bernie seems to have the big 'mo.

Of course, any of these candidates can kick orange ass next year - except Gillibrand.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
11. So people supporting a 77 yo don't care about age?
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:48 AM
Mar 2019

No way.

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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
18. They like the young at heart.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:14 PM
Mar 2019

And Bernie and Elizabeth certainly are.

Cheeto, of course, is too - as in a six year-old trapped in a 72 year-old man's body.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. It's not a good sign that they wouldn't commit to supporting the eventual Dem nominee
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:49 PM
Mar 2019

I've seen this shit before and it doesn't ever end well

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hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
20. Generation skipping? Reminds me of the grandkids that "hate" their parents but revere the
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:25 AM
Mar 2019

grandparent. Not a ding... Just an observation.

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vanboggie

(1,851 posts)
21. Bernie brings in more than the young
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:55 AM
Mar 2019

I was a 2016 Bernie volunteer and talked to thousands of people. Bernie brings in young, old and in between, but even more importantly he attracts Republicans, Independents and people who never voted before.

One of the people I talked to was a 30-year-old Iraq veteran who had never voted. He not only supported Bernie and registered to vote for him, but was also eager to work for him. He said, “Tell me where to be, and I am ready to work.” He was representative of many I spoke with.

I also wore my Bernie shirt to Costco right after Clinton took the primary. Three people - two older women and a middle-aged man came up to commiserate with me that Bernie would not be the candidate. I get so angry with the MSM meme that Bernie only attracts kids. I know better, and this senior citizen will be working my tail off to get him elected this time. I am convinced that he would have then and still can beat that creature now inhabiting the Oval Office. As for his age, there are plenty of good, younger, capable VP possibilities to ease that fear.

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sandensea

(21,586 posts)
29. Indeed he does.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:15 PM
Mar 2019

Yes, Bernie's behind in most polls among older voters - but nearly so much as to cancel out his overwhelming advantage among those under 40.

As senior citizens in particular realize that Bernie - and Liz Warren's - policies are of particular benefit to them, more will come on board.

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vanboggie

(1,851 posts)
30. That's the ticket
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

Sanders and Warren could get things done working together.

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Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
28. I would bet Millenials will go for Beto.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:11 PM
Mar 2019
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