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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:26 AM Jul 2019

Two polls today show Biden regaining some lost ground:

2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination Emerson Biden 30, Harris 15, Sanders 15, Warren 15, Buttigieg 5, O'Rourke 4, Booker 2, Yang 3, Gabbard 2, Castro 0, Klobuchar 1, Bullock 1, Bennet 1, Inslee 1 Biden +15

2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination Politico/Morning Consult Biden 31, Harris 14, Sanders 19, Warren 13, Buttigieg 6, O'Rourke 3, Booker 2, Yang 1, Gabbard 1, Castro 1, Klobuchar 1, Bullock 1, Bennet 0, Inslee 0 Biden +12

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Two polls today show Biden regaining some lost ground: (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2019 OP
Based on the celebration of Joe's "demise", by MSNBC, one would think he would be the one at 14%/15% Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #1
I can't even watch MSNBC at the moment, except perhaps Tweety wyldwolf Jul 2019 #2
Yup... I just won't watch them tear down ANY of our candidates.. the are off my list Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #3
Biden - Morning Consult (2w/1w/0w) 38/33/31 Emerson (2w/0w) 34/30 crazytown Jul 2019 #4
From this moment on, Biden will only widen. oasis Jul 2019 #5
Maybe. We'll see. MineralMan Jul 2019 #7
Other Dem candidates won't make the mistake of attacking Joe with oasis Jul 2019 #9
That's what you'd think, isn't it? MineralMan Jul 2019 #11
I'm sure Joe will welcome any debate oasis Jul 2019 #13
MSNBC's anchors and contributors are bound to be salty today... Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #6
Oh, I don't know. MineralMan Jul 2019 #8
Educated guess on my part. I haven't watched cable news since BEFORE the debates. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #10
Now, now, MineralMan... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #12
Oh, I'm just a silly old man. MineralMan Jul 2019 #14
They're not the only Cha Jul 2019 #23
Did Biden tick back up a point in the DU primary? wyldwolf Jul 2019 #15
Well, several points from the polls that had him in the 20s. MineralMan Jul 2019 #19
I'm sure Kamala is upset because her attack on his character did not work. Nt helpisontheway Jul 2019 #16
What she said in begrudgingly accepting his apology suggested she's leaving the door open for emmaverybo Jul 2019 #17
She may want to be careful about things involving prosecutions. MineralMan Jul 2019 #20
Right you are. But darn. She's relying on Biden not to attack. He could though if she opens that emmaverybo Jul 2019 #22
Well, he better be ready to hit her hard on her own record as a prosecutor and AG. Nt helpisontheway Jul 2019 #27
It doesn't work to her advantage. But it may harm Biden and down ticket.. Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #25
This is just reinforcing Joe's strength madville Jul 2019 #18
This is encouraging Gothmog Jul 2019 #21
It looks like the sugar high from the debates is wearing off? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #24
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #26
Your headline is wrong... thesquanderer Jul 2019 #28
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2019 #29
Quinnipiac: Harris 20, Biden 22 bigtree Jul 2019 #30
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
1. Based on the celebration of Joe's "demise", by MSNBC, one would think he would be the one at 14%/15%
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:38 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
2. I can't even watch MSNBC at the moment, except perhaps Tweety
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jul 2019

The no-name 'guests' repeating each other's talking points ad nauseam - often removed from reality - gets a little annoying. But if we ever needed evidence "progressive" media has little to no effect on the real world, there it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,750 posts)
3. Yup... I just won't watch them tear down ANY of our candidates.. the are off my list
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. Biden - Morning Consult (2w/1w/0w) 38/33/31 Emerson (2w/0w) 34/30
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jul 2019

Sanders - 19% every Morning Consult poll 4/29 to 7/7 = inconsistent with every other poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,365 posts)
5. From this moment on, Biden will only widen.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:57 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
7. Maybe. We'll see.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

I'm waiting to see how the results from the 1 and 2%ers will get redistributed. That's going to make a difference.

I wish more of the nonviable candidates would step out and find something else to run for. But, all that will happen in due time, I suppose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,365 posts)
9. Other Dem candidates won't make the mistake of attacking Joe with
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jul 2019

transparently weak "gotcha". Lesson learned.

All candidates must now target their resources into providing voters with positive images of themselves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
11. That's what you'd think, isn't it?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:15 PM
Jul 2019

I'm not sure, though, that it will go that way.

When the leader has a double-digit advantage, the instinctive move is to go after that leader. I'm sure someone will try that tactic again. One of the four top candidates, I imagine. Maybe Bernie Sanders will be next to go after Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,365 posts)
13. I'm sure Joe will welcome any debate
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jul 2019

over issues Americans care about. Bernie will stay within those lanes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
6. MSNBC's anchors and contributors are bound to be salty today...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
8. Oh, I don't know.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jul 2019

I only watch a couple of hours of MSNBC a day, between 3 and 5 PM here in Minnesota.

That's enough of it for me. Then I switch to my CBS affiliate for the local and national traditional news.

I can only listen to pundits for so long. Then, it all starts sounding the same to me.

But, then, I have mad crushes on Leah Ann Caldwell and Heidi Przybyla, so the 3-5 PM couple of hours is a must. They're my doll-faced pundits, I guess. As my wife always says, "Oh, not those two again..."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
10. Educated guess on my part. I haven't watched cable news since BEFORE the debates. nt
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
12. Now, now, MineralMan...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
14. Oh, I'm just a silly old man.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jul 2019

My wife just rolls her eyes...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,029 posts)
23. They're not the only
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jul 2019

ones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
15. Did Biden tick back up a point in the DU primary?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jul 2019

Maybe a tiny Swalwell effect?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
19. Well, several points from the polls that had him in the 20s.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
16. I'm sure Kamala is upset because her attack on his character did not work. Nt
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
17. What she said in begrudgingly accepting his apology suggested she's leaving the door open for
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jul 2019

further attack. Next comes the 1994 crime bill. She will imply he’s responsible for racist sentencing disparities, mass incarceration, and that he pioneered police brutality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
20. She may want to be careful about things involving prosecutions.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:59 PM
Jul 2019

As a DA and Attorney General, she has experience in that area.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
22. Right you are. But darn. She's relying on Biden not to attack. He could though if she opens that
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jul 2019

door. He did respond to her busing allegation though most missed it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
27. Well, he better be ready to hit her hard on her own record as a prosecutor and AG. Nt
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:21 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
25. It doesn't work to her advantage. But it may harm Biden and down ticket..
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

in the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madville

(7,408 posts)
18. This is just reinforcing Joe's strength
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jul 2019

And making his supporters dig in.

This is at least the third failed attacks originating from other Democrats and the media on Joe's character, primarily led by the MSM cheerleading (and not so much Fox News).

- Joe is touching everyone and making them uncomfortable.

- Joe treated Anita Hill unfairly.

- Joe is a racist segregationist that opposed integration.

We'll see what's next. The Ukrainian "scandal" didn't really take off from the right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,228 posts)
24. It looks like the sugar high from the debates is wearing off?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
28. Your headline is wrong...
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jul 2019

Since poll companies' methodologies differ, you can't directly compare poll results from different sources to draw conclusions like gaining or losing ground; for that you can only compare to the previous poll from the same company. So both of the polls you quoted show Biden losing ground.

Poll #1, latest Emerson, Biden at 30, is down from the previous Emerson, Biden at 34 (June 25).

Poll #2, latest Politico/Morning Consult, Biden at 31, down from previous Politico/Morning Consult, Biden at 33 (June 30)

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

bigtree

(85,984 posts)
30. Quinnipiac: Harris 20, Biden 22
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:04 PM
Jul 2019

...and CNN:

Harris 17, Biden 22

Harris still holding those huge gains in these polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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