Kamala Harris snipes at Elizabeth Warren for "churning out plans like a factory"

[wyldwolf]

California Senator Kamala Harris continued to criticize Joe Biden for his record on school desegregation and explained why her campaign isn't "churning out plans like a factory" during a Friday interview on the radio show, "The Breakfast Club." ...

... Harris also explained why she has not released as many policy proposals as some of her fellow 2020 contenders — namely Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren — who have received widespread attention for a number of highly-detailed and ambitious plans...

... "Well I'm going to tell you, that's why I'm not churning out plans like a factory, because it's really important to me that any plan that I am prepared to implement is actually doable," Harris said.

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Kamala-Harris-Joe-Biden-busing-plans-Warren-policy-14091628.php

[Skittles]

1. LOL

says the woman who has people going to "Camp Kamala"

[RHMerriman]

5. Indeed ... because God knows what we need is yet another chief executive who

Indeed ... because God knows what we need is yet another chief executive who "relies on their gut" and gets emotional about public policy and the art of the possible...

Speaking of the "Camp"...


Hello muddah (the Cal PhD...),
Hello faddah (the Cal PhD....)
Here I am at, Camp Kamala...
Camp is very entertaining
And they say we'll have some fun if we just stop training...

apologies to Alan Sherman.

[Skittles]

7. I'd still take her over Biden

just sayin'

[RHMerriman]

8. Because?

Any particular reason?

[Skittles]

9. because she would do better than him

[RHMerriman]

23. at what, exactly?

and why do you believe that?

[Skittles]

35. not even going to bother

what's the point? you've settled on your guy, so stick with him - just understand that many of us KNOW we can do better, MUCH better

[UniteFightBack]

43. Much better like Hillary? nt

[cwydro]

69. What is your problem with Hillary?

[RHMerriman]

71. Courage of your convictions?

I've voted for Harris three times, but I can certainly detail why she would not be my first, second, or third choice for the nomination, as well as why Biden would be my first.

So give me a reason why I should give Harris a second look.

[Cha]

74. Yeah, we Get IT.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Could be fatal

I don’t know how EW recovers from this.

[calguy]

30. She has a "plan" for that

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. LOL!! Good one!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Skya Rhen]

3. Warren will hopefully be prepared - forewarned...

[hlthe2b]

4. And thus we are introduced to the SNIPE

A snipe is any of about 26 wading bird species in three genera in the family Scolopacidae. They are characterized by a very long, slender bill and crypsis, or camouflage, plumage

[RHMerriman]

6. Blue Falcons, unite!

Blue Falcons, unite!

[Sherman A1]

10. Then she shouldn't look here

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

Because having policies, plans and ideas wouldn’t be anything we would want?

Oh wait, Yes it is..

[AlexSFCA]

11. Warren will be her target in the next debate

mark my words. Will Steyer qualify for the next debate?

[Thekaspervote]

13. I believe you are right. Didn't work so well for her the first time. But it seems to be her mo

[AlexSFCA]

15. it worked beyond every expectation

propelling her to top 3 candidates in many polls.

[Thekaspervote]

20. Certainly not with the AA vote which is what she was going for

I’m sure you saw the latest poll today of AA voters. It’s been posted here on DU more than once

[dsc]

25. she over doubled her share of the AA vote in a couple of weeks

while she might have wanted to do better than that, I think she is satisfied with that for now.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

132. I agree, it kinda backfired on Kamala... you'd think she learned a valuable lesson.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[customerserviceguy]

75. Yep

She saw what she could do to Biden, and Warren is also gaining ground, and must be stopped.

Steyer has enough money to buy donor support ("Give me just a dollar, please!&quot and he can probably pick up support from the Inslee voters once Jay has to fold. I'd be surprised to see him make the next debate, but he's got plenty of time to make the cut for a September one.

[Bradshaw3]

12. Warren has put together a large team creating plans that are "doable"

Harris apparently has her team working on taking shots at other Democrats.

[Thekaspervote]

14. And cheap shots at that

[Bradshaw3]

16. Yeah she is not coming across well n/t

[Funtatlaguy]

18. I was leaning toward her, now I'm leaning a

little toward others.
I prefer you Talk up ur own plans instead of criticizing other Dems.

[ooky]

26. She was close to the top of my choices at the beginning.

Then its been down hill all the way.

[BootinUp]

64. yep, I dont even desire her as the running mate at this point. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. I'm with you on this... sad to see this unfounded sniping by Kamala.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Kahuna7]

27. When they come for Harris, she'd better be ready...

It won't be pretty.

[customerserviceguy]

76. Anything

requiring a constitutional amendment like her wealth tax is not doable. We may never see another amendment to the United States Constitution ever. They require massive super-majorities, the likes of which are essentially impossible.

[treestar]

106. It's been done 17 times

How would the wealth tax require that?

[customerserviceguy]

135. Look at the history

of the Sixteenth Amendment, it was the one that authorized the levying of an income tax, as such a tax was not contemplated in the Constitution. A wealth tax was not, either. Yes, taxpayers pay property tax, which is a kind of wealth tax, but there are no Federal ones, only state and local property taxes.

In the last fifty years, only two Amendments have been ratified. One dealt with lowering the voting age to eighteen, and it was proposed and ratified in 1971, while the Vietnam War was raging, the argument that if you're old enough to die for your country, you're old enough to vote for its leaders won the day. The other Amendment was concerning Congressional pay raises, an issue that certainly doesn't affect the daily lives of the vast majority of Americans, and it had been proposed and passed through Congress just over two centuries earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution

I don't see this country ever having enough unity to pass a constitutional amendment for anything that is even slightly controversial. Remember, we still haven't passed the Equal Rights Amendment, and that cleared Congress nearly fifty years ago. All it takes are thirteen states to say, "We won't go along with this," and they can stop a proposed amendment from being added to the Constitution.

[BeckyDem]

17. wow that was really disappointing to read.

[INdemo]

19. If she goes "sniping" at Elizabeth Warren..I'm done

not my choice any longer....

[True Dough]

21. Well, if Kamala had a factory

it would be a waffle factory!




Come on, Harris supporters. She's been back and forth on a few issues.

[wyldwolf]

24. HA!

[Horizens]

22. Because voters

would much rather talk about what Biden said 2 generations ago than what Warren would do about health care and income equality today.

[SouthernProgressive]

28. Not a very bright comment....

If it was on the spot.

Worse if it was planned.

Not much to it.

[Raven123]

29. Underlying that statement are multiple assumptions

1) Harris knows the details of Warren’s plans and can point specifically to how they are not doable

2) Harris believes Warren’s plans have not been thoughtfully prepared for implementation.

3) Harris is still deciding what she plans to do as President


Should be a spirited debate. I think her response was poorly worded. Sounds like she was caught off guard. She might have said that she was putting plans together at a pace that she and her staff were comfortable with and that she believed would give voters ample time to compare/contrast prior to decision time.

[Otto Lidenbrock]

32. Already been a couple of times her campaign has walked back on something

I put it down to her vague "lets have a conversation about that" go-to line backfiring on her. Just answer the question the way you want to, rather than tripping over the question and then allowing other people to make their interpretations. Her big moment at the debate came because she prepared for it, how to line it up and what she wanted to say.

[Indygram]

31. I think that when everyone is done trying to kneecap each other...

Beto will have been ignoring the pettiness and will have build a grassroots army the likes the world has never before seen. He will probably be the only one who hasn't thoroughly pissed off the supporters of every other candidate, too, lol.

I <3 Beto...eye on the prize...he's not running against other Democrats...he's running FOR America.

[Thekaspervote]

33. I really like Beto!!! Sure wish his campaign would take off

[jcgoldie]

34. Your title is misleading

I listened to the interview and I did not hear her mention Elizabeth Warren one time. Please tell us at what point in the 48 minute clip that she said anything about Elizabeth Warren.

[highplainsdem]

38. You're kidding right? Since Warren is best known in her campaign for saying "I have a plan for that"

it's perfectly obvious that Harris is sniping at Warren there.

Multiple news sources had absolutely no trouble understanding that.

You can bet Warren didn't miss the jab, either.

[jcgoldie]

39. No I'm not kidding

She said "I don't churn out plans like a factory". I heard that. But the part about "sniping at Warren" is completely an assumption you are making.

[highplainsdem]

51. No, it's a logical deduction many are making. If you go to either Google or Twitter

and search for

harris warren churning out plans

you'll see that's how individuals and media sources correctly interpreted what Harris was saying there.

It was what's commonly known as a "thinly veiled shot," with Harris trying to leave herself some deniability while also sniping at Warren.

And it's a logical deduction rather than an assumption because

1) the "churning out plans" description fits only one other candidate,

2) that candidate, Warren, is between Harris and the top of the polls in most polls, and

3) Harris has already shown a willingness to snipe at the front-runner, so

4) very few will be surprised that she'd go after Warren now that Warren is in second place in many polls.

[jcgoldie]

53. I understand why Biden supporters want to characterize her in this way

But I don't see how you can argue for "thinly veiled" evidence. Or that she's "going after Warren" when her name is never mentioned.

[highplainsdem]

56. Again, just check this out via Google or Twitter as I suggested. There are multiple media

sources and lots of people who aren't Biden supporters drawing the same conclusion.

Do you really think that one candidate has to specifically name another candidate to snipe at that target, if the candidate can be identified by specific attributes or words?

This sort of thing happens all the time in campaigns, or in politics in general.

[wyldwolf]

61. Some Kamala supporters have finger inserted firmly in ears...

going "KAMALA LA LA LA LA I can't hear you."

[Cha]

73. Oh Please.. "Biden Supporters"? We

didn't tell Harris to say that.. those are her words.

Elizabeth's name doesn't have to be mentioned.. everyone knows who the candidate is with the "plans".

I googled and all this showed up..

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=KVUpXfnfLIv5-wSK-6KgBg&q=elizabeth+warren+has+plans&oq=elizabeth+warren+has+plans&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1232.8207..8954...1.0..0.629.4541.0j27j5-1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..35i39j0j0i131.0Ub8jFlrlQ0

[treestar]

104. For crying' out loud

Then what was she referring to? This is disingenuous. Warren has made her mark on having plans. Why not just say " that's why I don't have a lot of specific plans yet?" Churning them out like a factory is two points of saying it's a bad thing, and why bother?

[BannonsLiver]

80. Try not to be so obtuse.

[wyldwolf]

41. No it isn't.

I read the article I linked to.

Please read the 6th paragraph, and spare me the bullshit direction you're going with this. Everyone knows Warren's rise has been from her now famous line "I have a plan for that" and the amount of policy plans she's produced.

[wyldwolf]

44. Enjoy your stay. The primaries will be tough for you.

I read the article. Everyone here read the article. And you stand alone in pretending it wasn't about Warren.

Enjoy your stay. The primaries will be tough for you.

[wyldwolf]

49. Imagining? Theorizing? Fantasizing?

However you wish to describe it, anyone who denies this was about Warrn isn't living in reality.

[DesertRat]

52. I agree. She never mentioned or alluded to Elizabeth Warren

The headline is misleading and inflammatory. The newspaper is looking for clicks.

From the transcript:
Co-host DJ Envy: "I feel like with everybody on stage, it's almost like, 'We're going to raise minimum wage! Free health care! Free student loans! Black people are going to get reparations!'" "It's like, 'You get a car! You get a car! You get a car!' It sounds good, but what's real and what's bulls—?"

Sen. Harris: "Well I'm going to tell you, that's why I'm not churning out plans like a factory, because it's really important to me that any plan that I am prepared to implement is actually doable," Harris said.

"So you see the bulls– too?" Envy asked, referring to the plans of other candidates.

Sen. Harris: "Well here's the generous way to say that: People are aspirational," Harris responded. "You have a goal, and that should be the goal, so let's try to get there."

[Princetonian]

62. CNN's Kate Bolduan and Waleed Shahid from Justice Democrats agree with the OP

CNN's Kate Bolduan just interviewed Waleed Shahid, from Justice Democrats.

She referred to the statement that Harris made, on the Breakfast Club, when she said: "I'm not churning out plans like a factory".

Kate Bolduan suggested to Waleed Shahid that Kamala Harris almost seemed to be mocking Warren's plans.

Shahid responded that it was surprising because he thought that, with her performance at the debate with Joe Biden, progressives were starting to have an interest in Kamala Harris. He said that it's kind of weird that she would come out against Elizabeth Warren in this way.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287199760

[disenfranchised]

70. You're right

I watch the Breakfast Club and the hosts frequently talk about how this is the season when politicians offer up promises of plans that will be impossible to deliver when elected. It seems like clear that she was responding to that topic from DJ Envy. I don't think DJ Envy had one person in mind when he asked the question...although if it was one person, it seems just as likely to be Bernie.

[Kind of Blue]

91. Thanks for the transcript, DesertRat. I listened to the interview

last night. When DJ Envy spoke of "everybody on stage," my mind went to Andrew Yang whose plans to me rivals Warren's and Buttiege's to a smaller degree. I also thought of the others who I like with much smaller plans like Klobuchar and O'Rourke. Small, large, it's all good.

[treestar]

103. Didn't she have a plan for mortgages for black homeowners

and suggest reparations?

[DesertRat]

133. Here are her comments from The View

Also, I'm not understanding how your question relates to my post.

[Kind of Blue]

89. +1000!

[ecstatic]

36. In Warren's defense, she's not just throwing random shit out there.

She's been studying these issues for years. In fact, I would appreciate it if KH took the same approach of being clear on where she stands and put more thought into the implementation part as well. That's part of what made me switch to EW in the first place.

[Ponietz]

105. +1

Thank you.

Warren is the best person for the job if and when the economy tanks. Her proposals remind me of FDR’s new deal.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

129. Bingo!! Elizabeth is the most qualified candidate to ever run for President...

precisely because of her understanding of the problems plaguing our country and her well-thought out plans for solving those problems. This is why Elizabeth is the one who can finally break the "glass ceiling"... she needs to be on the ticket, if not in the top spot, then as Bernie's running mate.


Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!! or
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

[highplainsdem]

40. Welcome, Elizabeth Warren, to the Targets-of-Kamala-Harris club!

[UniteFightBack]

45. Not sure I would fuck with Elizabeth Warren when talking about specific policies. SHE KNOWS. nt

[wyldwolf]

46. She likely has a plan for dealing with Kamala.

[UniteFightBack]

50. Gotta gve you an LOL on that one. ! nt

[crazytown]

55. You bet she does.

When the campaign scouts were fanning out across Iowa in January, they found Warren's people had been there for months. The subterranean side of Elizabeths campaign is seeking the sort of advantage over the competition that Obama had in 2007 / 08.

[DesertRat]

57. She never mentioned or "sniped at" Elizabeth Warren

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=199748

[UniteFightBack]

58. She didn't have to mention her...we all know who she is talking about. I heard her say it before I

even checked in here and it didn't like it.

[Cha]

77. lol ikr.

[SMC22307]

54. I'm liking her less and less. (n/t)

[Cha]

59. Oh? so since she hasn't done it she

has to insult Elizabeth with the "that's why I'm not churning out plans like a factory"?

Going after Warren's strengths, is she? Another.. not a good look for her.

[bigtree]

60. lol

...somebody bring me the smelling salts!

[silentEcho]

63. Geez people, this is a primary. No biggie and I like Warren. Though, I like Harris, too.

[Princetonian]

65. Primaries tend to reveal a candidate's true character.

Disparaging one's Democratic opponent's policy chops to cover one's own lack or misrepresenting their position on a decades-old issue then flipflopping the next day to agree with them is indicative of the kind of politician that many of us do not like or trust.

[silentEcho]

66. They have all made quips. Seems like more the issue is Harris challenging people's favorites or

something. So not a big deal.

[Princetonian]

67. No, most of the field have not resorted to misrepresentation and disparagement of fellow candidates.

Hey but karma is a bitch.

[silentEcho]

68. Damn, if we are not exactly that we complain about. Ah well, I am good with Harris.

I think Warren can perfectly handle herself and nothing compared to what she will get if winning the primary.

[Thekaspervote]

78. Indeed!

[emmaverybo]

84. You put your finger on why some of us are feeling uneasy about Harris's campaigning strategy. NT

[treestar]

102. This is one where we don't need negative campaigning

And this is Kamala's second rodeo now. Is she relying on being voted for because everyone else has some problem she has exaggerated?

[silentEcho]

108. Biden "sniped" at other candidates just yesterday. I read it on another thread except they say

he "chastised" or something. You know, more what a grandpa would do, I guess. While Harris snipes.

We are assigning possible truth or maybe non truths to Harris, as fact. We just did the same thing when Harris said Biden is not a racist. Yet, we say the implication is Harris said Biden is a racist.

This is campaigning. I am suggesting we are once again hampering, restricting women candidates and maybe we ought to be aware of our behavior.

I like Harris. I like Biden. I like Warren.

You define it as negative campaigning. I say it is campaigning. Simply campaigning.

[treestar]

110. They all ought to stop

It isn't helping this time. We need huge turnout.

[silentEcho]

112. Campaigning. There is going to be some address here, while sometimes merely competing.

I appreciated Harris having the conversation at the debate and I like hearing what the others have to say on this particular conversation. I do not want that to stop. I think we will all have our level of seeing it productive rather than counter productive. I think this is something we have to be more fluid with but I do know that often we hamper a woman's ability to compete. We watched with HRC how she had to tip toe in the primary and it really made it much harder for her to competitively run. She coddled Sanders as she was being torn up, turning the other cheek while ignoring. She merely said Trumps people were deplorable and oh the outrage that she was running a negative campaign. We put so many obstacles in front of a woman, while running.

Snipe is defined as petty. Soon we will be using catty and such. We are creating our own caricature here and we tend to take the same path with women. I am not going to play. Our women are smart, professional, strong. I am standing with her.

If Biden supporters had not countered the attack with stating Harris was saying Biden is a racist, 180 to her actual words, then we would not have handed Trump a weapon against Biden in 2020. Instead, by claiming Harris was saying Biden is a racist we told the world some of us think Biden is a racist. How smart was that? Instead we could have stated, well of course Biden is not a racist, see we ALL agree, the supporters provided the weapon for Trump. I think it is something to be aware of as we go forward.

[treestar]

113. Anything that starts with, "I don't think you are a racist"

is always followed by a literal or implied "but."

Then the Harris supporters went on about Joe not being prepared for an out of the blue 70s issue. That was supposed to be a negative.

Why make excuses and try to blame the pushback? She did it, and the feedback is still going on from the media and she's apparently enjoying that be defeating Meghan McCain on this very important subject.

Dotard will be easy to attack. No practice is needed.

[Skya Rhen]

116. +1000

[silentEcho]

122. Anything and always. We disagree.

Anything that starts with, "I don't think you are a racist"

is always followed by a literal or implied "but."

I say what I mean; I choose my words carefully. You are telling me otherwise, and you are doing it as if it is a fact regardless of my sharing that I mean exactly the words I say. When I say, my father is not a racist, I mean my father is not a racist. My father's support of Trump and not speaking out encourages racism. What he is, is privileged and I understand why he is doing what he is doing. I still think it is wrong for the simple fact it feeds an hostile and racist environment. He is old, cognitive is not the same as earlier decades and he lives in an environment where they support each other in their obtuseness thru privilege. I also know how he has lived for my lifetime that allows me to be comfortable stating he is not a racist.

I do not think Sanders is a sexist. I do think his male privilege and stubbornness and ego feeds into the patriarchy. I think Biden's behavior feeds into the patriarchy in a benevolent way and he is a champion of women and girls and has been for decades. I know he will be on my side. Sanders may be a little too careless in this regard.

[Cha]

115. Fine.. Harris "chastized" Warren for

"Churning out plans like a factory".

Not a good look, either way.. I don't really care what she thinks about Elizabeth's Plans. That's Warren's candidacy.. pretty sure she has that handled.

[silentEcho]

123. Harris said Warren was churning out plans like a factory?

[JDC]

72. Yeah! What's with all the good ideas!

[5starlib]

79. Wow, Kamala is really gonna help her favorability numbers!

I'm sure they're gonna shoot up.

[Gustafo]

81. Planning is good

In life, it's good to have plans. Decisions can't be taken randomly.

[gopiscrap]

82. welcome to DU

[highplainsdem]

83. I think the worst part of what Harris said there was including the words "like a factory."

If she had just said "churning out plans" it would have still been a jab at Warren (the word "churning" was deliberately unflattering), and Harris would still have made her point.

But adding the words "like a factory" sounded particularly demeaning and contemptuous.

[bluewater]

85. This post trying a bit too hard perhaps?

Seems so.

Mountain... mole hill...

[highplainsdem]

86. Nope. Just explaining why that jab got as much attention as it did.

[Kind of Blue]

93. +1000

[Cha]

118. This post trying to deflect

too much.

Not working.

[Kind of Blue]

88. Maybe if she had just said, "churning out plans like Elizabeth Warren" would it be

a jab at Warren. For you to only think Warren shows how much you know of the copious plans of some of the other contenders.

[highplainsdem]

98. I'm sure she meant Warren both because Warren's best known for her plans, and because Harris would

see Warren, like Biden, as the nearest obstacle to getting the nomination, a rival to target.

The news stories about this all came to the same conclusion -- that it was a jab at Warren.

[Skya Rhen]

99. And it has not been refuted by the campaign...

[highplainsdem]

100. Good point

[Kind of Blue]

109. Good point. I hope they ignore this piece of tripe.

[Cha]

119. No.. it not Elizabeth she was talking about "Churning out like a Factory"..

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=KVUpXfnfLIv5-wSK-6KgBg&q=elizabeth+warren+has+plans&oq=elizabeth+warren+has+plans&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1232.8207..8954...1.0..0.629.4541.0j27j5-1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..35i39j0j0i131.0Ub8jFlrlQ0

[Kind of Blue]

107. They wrote it. You read it so it must be true! Or maybe repeat something frequently enough

it becomes truth. The SF Gate headline is accurate and not this misleading OP that you agree with.

IMO, Harris did not couch what she meant especially when asked the direct question: "I feel like with everybody on stage, (emphasis mine) it's almost like, 'We're going to raise minimum wage! Free health care! Free student loans! Black people are going to get reparations!'" "It's like, 'You get a car! You get a car! You get a car!' It sounds good, but what's real and what's bulls—?"

[Cha]

117. Exactly right, highplainsdem..

Extra digs.

Thank You.

[Kind of Blue]

87. Whoa! pure projection happening. I thought immediately of Andrew Yang whose plans

are even longer than Warren, in my estimation. I like him a lot. Warren follows, then Biden, and even Buttiege imo. Haven't checked them all, just those who fascinate me.

Klobuchar, O'Rourke and Harris have smaller lists of plans and I like that, too.

Maybe if she said, "churning out plans like Elizabeth Warren," could I believe she "sniped." Your headline is very misleading injecting a particular person when other people easily come to mind.

[bluewater]

90. An attempt to start off a "circular firing squad" ?!?

Seems like the OP might be just that.

Shame!

[Kind of Blue]

92. Indeed! And frivolous. Talk about churning out, this takes the cake.

[Skya Rhen]

94. Or...Perhaps she wasn't referring to any of the candidates... Let's wait for a tweet from her

campaign to deny that this was about Warren.

Absent this, one would be left to assume that it was...

[Kind of Blue]

95. Why should she deny something that wasn't said or, to me, not intended for Warren

in particular or as you say, not referring to any of the candidates?

N'eh, I don't give much credence to things not in evidence. And especially to assume, you must know what is generally said about that

[Skya Rhen]

96. She will, most certainly, be asked about it. So, we will find out sooner or later...

[Kind of Blue]

97. Okie doke.

[NYMinute]

101. Reaches for popcorn nt

[elocs]

111. "...it's really important to me that any plan that I am prepared to implement is actually doable,"

Harris said.
What a fascinating concept! And here I always thought that just the promise itself was the most important thing regardless if it could ever be done or not.
Because I hear plans and proposals that I am sure will never be accomplished given the reality of how things actually are rather than how I would wish them to be. But I guess that's not how you get elected when promises, promises seem to work better.

[Cha]

120. ... "Well I'm going to tell you, that's why I'm not churning out plans like a factory.."

[Kind of Blue]

121. Wow! well said. And that's really the crux of the matter. Doable is the key word.

I think all of the candidates, with the right Congress, can implement a lot of their plans. But it's more than reasonable to doubt the execution of every single one.

[wyldwolf]

124. In other words...

"Warren's plans aren't doable but mine are."

So she wants a policy discussion?

[emmaverybo]

114. I think she is "seeding" her eventual attack against Warren, but will not make a move in the

next debate.

She does not want to alienate Warren supporters, as she needs them down the road and they don’t just like Warren, they love her.

Meanwhile, she still needs more AA support, which she will try to pick off from Joe, who nationally runs far ahead with the black electorate.

I don’t think knee capping Joe is enough for her. Next, she will drive home the extent of his
racism with the 1994 crime bill.

If he brings up VAWA, she might even go to the “creepy Joe” meme. “ I know you aren’t a sexual
abuser but...”

[Bayard]

125. What are you doing, Kamala?

We are better than this. We don't eat our own.

She was my top choice before Biden announced. Now, she's steadily heading downhill in my internal polling.

What's next? Making up nick names for your opponents? Stay classy.

[DBoon]

126. If your approach is to tear down the other Democratic contenders

you may eventually win the nomination, but by then you will have so tarnished the public reputation of the Democratic Party that you will lose the general election.

[Doreen]

127. Warren has not pumped those plans out fast

and methodically. She has been drawing those plans up for some years now. She has put a lot of labored thought into those plans. I am sure she realizes some will have to be changed or modified and she is smart enough to know they are not solid plans because she will have to work with or around others.

[Cha]

134. Exactly.. Thank You, Doreen.

[Mike Nelson]

128. I don't mind Kamala...

… playing to win - but this one make me think Elizabeth would be a good President. I think "churning out plans like a factory" is a good trait for a President!

[Cha]

136. A Lean Mean Planning Machine!

I know I'd rather have Elizabeth for Prez than Harris.. after Joe Biden .

We'll see what All the Voters Decide.. fairly.